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On June 25 2011 14:27 Shiragaku wrote:
I just got TF 2 today and it seems like there are no servers available...is it because I am a newbie? Also...TF 2 is the hardest FPS I have ever played. FML
Wow what FPS games have you been playing? Not to say TF2 isn't skillful or anything.. but you should try original team fortress or quake 1 in general!
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IMO Quake 3 [arena](or quake live) would be one of the hardest FPSes... that game is pretty damn crazy.
That said, Quake 3 is a bit too tedious and/or simplestic for my taste... mostly about super fast reactions and good accuracy, not that there isn't other things like prediction involved, but still the game is quite linear.
TF2 is nice because while it might not be the most skill-demanding, it uses a bit more brain, a bit less twitch. I like team games like Nox, Team Fortress, and Tribes (even though I never played it, lol). Even unreal tournament series (favorite being the original) had some team play even though it was really basic (hardly at all a step up from quake). Oddly enough (or not) I didn't like Counter strike. Probably because it focuses so much on the tedium like Quake does.
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If you think Q3A/Live is hard, try Quake 1. A lot of Quake veterans say Quake gets dumbed down with every release and it's true to an extent, though I prefer to use the term 'streamlined'.
But yeah, I like how TF2 requires just enough skill for players to have to work for their kill, yet not so much that it's tedious like Brood War. Compare TF2 to Call of Duty where in CoD, 95% of the kills aren't deserved.
On June 25 2011 12:15 Existential wrote:
Just played a few games. Makes me slightly sad that the game is now overrun by 10 year olds who don't know how to play =/. Also anyone else having trouble finding servers with tolerable ping?
I heard Australia has very few servers with active communities (as in everyone has a mic and knows each other like good friends). One of the few good Australian community servers I know of is a furry server, if you're okay with that.
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On June 25 2011 15:21 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 12:15 Existential wrote:
Just played a few games. Makes me slightly sad that the game is now overrun by 10 year olds who don't know how to play =/. Also anyone else having trouble finding servers with tolerable ping? I heard Australia has very few servers with active communities (as in everyone has a mic and knows each other like good friends). One of the few good Australian community servers I know of is a furry server, if you're okay with that.
Well pre-Uber Update although there wasn't a exceptionally great number of servers I still could find quite a number where I pinged quite low. But post update just seems like all the servers such as 3FL aren't there anymore and the servers that are, are just too hard to play on.
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On June 25 2011 14:44 ploy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 14:27 Shiragaku wrote:
I just got TF 2 today and it seems like there are no servers available...is it because I am a newbie? Also...TF 2 is the hardest FPS I have ever played. FML Wow what FPS games have you been playing? Not to say TF2 isn't skillful or anything.. but you should try original team fortress or quake 1 in general!
I have played Battlefield, Counter-Strike, and Quake...but I find TF 2 to be hard because the enemies are just too durable and you are not as bouncy as you are in Quake.
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On June 25 2011 15:44 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 14:44 ploy wrote:On June 25 2011 14:27 Shiragaku wrote:
I just got TF 2 today and it seems like there are no servers available...is it because I am a newbie? Also...TF 2 is the hardest FPS I have ever played. FML Wow what FPS games have you been playing? Not to say TF2 isn't skillful or anything.. but you should try original team fortress or quake 1 in general! I have played Battlefield, Counter-Strike, and Quake...but I find TF 2 to be hard because the enemies are just too durable and you are not as bouncy as you are in Quake.
Too durable? You can kill most enemies without reloading(assuming you hit) when you're playing as soldier/demoman. But if you don't have a medic healing you, and the enemy does...shoot the medic first.
Or you could play as engineer and put up a level 3 sentry. Even kills heavies with medic support(no uber).
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On June 25 2011 10:45 h3r1n6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 09:41 acker wrote:
After a while, you start noticing spies because they don't move the same way normal people move. It's kind of hard to explain...like, normal people care less than disguised spies where other people are. And good spies learned to take advantage of that and 'act'. When I am really bored I pretend to be a really obvious spy and try to fool my teammates into chasing me around :D
And people then figure out what good spies think other people are looking for in spies, and very good spies look for what people think good spies think goods spies think what other people are looking for, and so forth and so forth...just kidding :\ Kinda.
Fortunately, good spies are rare so 90% of the time step one applies 
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bought the game when it released (because i played TFC also), played it competitively, in my opinion public sucks, but the game is awesome. best clanwar and team game ever, without the new weapons!
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does anyone has the problem that you are being disconnected every time you joins a game ?
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On June 25 2011 15:00 Xapti wrote:
That said, Quake 3 is a bit too tedious and/or simplestic for my taste... mostly about super fast reactions and good accuracy, not that there isn't other things like prediction involved, but still the game is quite linear.
Thats cos cpma mod made rail and lg too generous, every half decent player was hitting 40% lg and higher. Of course, other people think that the netcode is excellent and the closest to what it should feel but im not convinced. Still... Q3's history has lots of champions who werent the fastest or most accurate players of their time.
Anyways I think this was the shot in the arm the tf2 scene needed. I noticed that tf2 left the competitive circuit quite a while ago and I hope clan activity picks up again. The steam servers are being hammered with slow downloads so thats a good sign that people are playing!
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On June 24 2011 10:20 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 10:19 ViQun wrote:
Unlockable weapons make the bad players a bit less bad, but will get rolled by skilled players. Exactly. I still play with the original weapons all the time. Rest suck.
As a main soldier in 6v6 and 8v8(when i was popular) i agree with this. Original weapons are the best. shovel is OP
I did quit a while ago though, i could not stand the way the game was going with all the hats and ridiculous looking stuff.
Went back to quake.
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On June 25 2011 15:00 Xapti wrote:
IMO Quake 3 [arena](or quake live) would be one of the hardest FPSes... that game is pretty damn crazy.
That said, Quake 3 is a bit too tedious and/or simplestic for my taste... mostly about super fast reactions and good accuracy, not that there isn't other things like prediction involved, but still the game is quite linear.
You make that sound like the Brood War prejudice, that the player who clicks faster will win. There is plenty of strategy/tactics in map control in Quake 3, but it's coupled with a huge mechanical demand.
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1. Klick Play Now!
2. Check Payload
3. Choose SPY!
4. Get behind cart, stab 4-7 guys in the back!
5. repeat 4 until time runs out.
6. ???
7. Profit!
The new players can't recognize the decloak sound and aren't checking the back, pretty good times there 
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On June 25 2011 17:12 sceroh wrote:
does anyone has the problem that you are being disconnected every time you joins a game ?
i cant even load my tf2 lol
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People need to realise most of the new weapons arent upgrades of the vanilla weps
so the people who buy the new items arent at a mega advantage at all..
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i cant understand what is wrong, after it went free i cant load my TF2 anymore its just loading and loading
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"...Valve took a leap of faith. Like in indiana jones 3, () they stuck their foot out over a ravine, hoping to get to the holy grail across the way, and it is our responsibility, as the users, the gamers, and the lovers of TF2 to decide whether or not the bridge will be there for them to walk across safely to the other side." -quote myself.
what do people think about the influx of people who may not be good at TF2, or may b horrible n00bs, but were only enticed by the "free to play" offer? how should we solve this? Premium-only servers? n00b training? interested to hear back.
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On June 25 2011 21:56 whiteLotus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 17:12 sceroh wrote:
does anyone has the problem that you are being disconnected every time you joins a game ? i cant even load my tf2 lol
I've been crashing about 2/3s into loading screens. While I did just get the game free I have played just fine before on a free to play weekend. Anyone know a fix (mac fyi)?
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has anyone played TFC (the original)? TF2 is like what cs source is to 1.6. made it terrible.
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i should go back in to pwn a few noobs and let them know their place (THANKS FOR STANDING STILL WANKER)
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