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Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 29 2014 23:10 GMT
#901
Everything else aside I find 8/9 harder to get into because of the atrocious battle loading times and overall slowness of fights. I don't know what they did but they really fucked battles up in those 2 games, it's just too slow. 30+ seconds to load on a ps3 at times and atb bars / animations a lot slower then 7, I just think it sucked the life out of them both. FF7 doesn't suffer from that at all, crisp and fast paced battles / loading
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 29 2014 23:50 GMT
#902
On March 30 2014 08:10 Omnishroud wrote:
Everything else aside I find 8/9 harder to get into because of the atrocious battle loading times and overall slowness of fights. I don't know what they did but they really fucked battles up in those 2 games, it's just too slow. 30+ seconds to load on a ps3 at times and atb bars / animations a lot slower then 7, I just think it sucked the life out of them both. FF7 doesn't suffer from that at all, crisp and fast paced battles / loading


Really? The ATB bar in FF8 loads up ridiculously fast. Like, really. It's even faster than in FF9 with auto-boost on. That sounds surprising. When was the last time you played FF8/9?
I like words.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
March 30 2014 03:55 GMT
#903
If you are new to the series you should start with FF4 to be honest, the game is literally the standard to all JRPGS with every little cliche you can expect from a JRPG story wise and gameplay wise it explains the mechanics of an FF game quite well because even though there is no job system every character is tied to a specific role that helps you understand the job system of games like FF1/3/5.

plus golbez is a fucking badass.

as for platform, the DS version remake is considered the hardest, but I prefer the PSP remake.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 30 2014 04:08 GMT
#904
On March 30 2014 12:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
If you are new to the series you should start with FF4 to be honest, the game is literally the standard to all JRPGS with every little cliche you can expect from a JRPG story wise and gameplay wise it explains the mechanics of an FF game quite well because even though there is no job system every character is tied to a specific role that helps you understand the job system of games like FF1/3/5.

plus golbez is a fucking badass.

as for platform, the DS version remake is considered the hardest, but I prefer the PSP remake.


I don't think FF4 is "hard", per se. The difficulty, IMO, depends almost entirely on:

+ Show Spoiler +
Getting the Draw Attack Augment


If you have it, it's super easy. Otherwise, let the hell begin.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
March 30 2014 04:44 GMT
#905
On March 30 2014 13:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 12:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
If you are new to the series you should start with FF4 to be honest, the game is literally the standard to all JRPGS with every little cliche you can expect from a JRPG story wise and gameplay wise it explains the mechanics of an FF game quite well because even though there is no job system every character is tied to a specific role that helps you understand the job system of games like FF1/3/5.

plus golbez is a fucking badass.

as for platform, the DS version remake is considered the hardest, but I prefer the PSP remake.


I don't think FF4 is "hard", per se. The difficulty, IMO, depends almost entirely on:

+ Show Spoiler +
Getting the Draw Attack Augment


If you have it, it's super easy. Otherwise, let the hell begin.


I didn't say it was hard, I only said that of all the versions the DS version is "considered" the hardest.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
September 18 2014 19:12 GMT
#906
So the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy coming to steam over the next few months.

I don't know if I should preorder or wait till release and see what the PC version is like. Hell.. its only 13 euro... What do you think guys?
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
September 18 2014 20:49 GMT
#907
Is there any incentive to pre-order? Lots of game reviews are posted a few days before release so you can still preorder after reading the reviews first.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 18 2014 20:54 GMT
#908
On September 19 2014 05:49 karazax wrote:
Is there any incentive to pre-order? Lots of game reviews are posted a few days before release so you can still preorder after reading the reviews first.


I think preorder has 10% discount
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
September 18 2014 21:17 GMT
#909
It'd be worth it to preorder maybe a bundle of all of them, but all I see is a preorder for the first. While a 10% discount sounds nice, the game's only gonna cost $16 so it's like $14.39 if you preorder.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
September 19 2014 11:11 GMT
#910
Probably better to wait and see what kind of PC port it is, 10% discount not woth it imo.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
September 19 2014 11:31 GMT
#911
On September 19 2014 20:11 Manijak wrote:
Probably better to wait and see what kind of PC port it is, 10% discount not woth it imo.

But it is only 12 euro for a 60+ fps, better resolution version of a game that cost 60 euro 4 years ago.

I've been reading around and SE said that XIII had been originally developed for the PC but they didn't release it because they didn't see a profit on the PC platform back then. So this shouldn't be a shitty port.

Fuck it, bought it anyway
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 19 2014 12:09 GMT
#912
On September 19 2014 04:12 zeo wrote:
So the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy coming to steam over the next few months.

I don't know if I should preorder or wait till release and see what the PC version is like. Hell.. its only 13 euro... What do you think guys?


u must be really cheap or don't know what a good deal is when you see one. all 3 games are fu**ing long.....im sure i spent close to 200 -300 for all 3 including DLC + collectors guides. literally isn't ever going to be a better deal than that if i've seen one. gamestop charges you more for a broken dvd disc.
Erinyes
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 12:51:10
September 19 2014 12:49 GMT
#913
On September 19 2014 20:31 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 20:11 Manijak wrote:
Probably better to wait and see what kind of PC port it is, 10% discount not woth it imo.

But it is only 12 euro for a 60+ fps, better resolution version of a game that cost 60 euro 4 years ago.

I've been reading around and SE said that XIII had been originally developed for the PC but they didn't release it because they didn't see a profit on the PC platform back then. So this shouldn't be a shitty port.

Fuck it, bought it anyway


Just being curious here - where was it said XIII will be 60fps on PC? I've read the announcement but I've not stumbled upon that. Also it's already in the description ( on Steam that is ) that a controller is highly recommended so I would not expect perfectly implemented mouse control either. For the moment I'd see no real point in pre-ordering when you will know - in just two weeks - how good the port will be.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 19 2014 12:54 GMT
#914
If it has controller support and isn't somehow a completely broken port then its worth the buy imo.
Useless wet fish.
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
September 19 2014 12:59 GMT
#915
Is FFXIII more linear play (like FFX) or more open world exploration (like FFVII or FFIX)?
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 13:11:05
September 19 2014 13:09 GMT
#916
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 13:18:43
September 19 2014 13:12 GMT
#917
On September 19 2014 21:49 Erinyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 20:31 zeo wrote:
On September 19 2014 20:11 Manijak wrote:
Probably better to wait and see what kind of PC port it is, 10% discount not woth it imo.

But it is only 12 euro for a 60+ fps, better resolution version of a game that cost 60 euro 4 years ago.

I've been reading around and SE said that XIII had been originally developed for the PC but they didn't release it because they didn't see a profit on the PC platform back then. So this shouldn't be a shitty port.

Fuck it, bought it anyway


Just being curious here - where was it said XIII will be 60fps on PC? I've read the announcement but I've not stumbled upon that. Also it's already in the description ( on Steam that is ) that a controller is highly recommended so I would not expect perfectly implemented mouse control either. For the moment I'd see no real point in pre-ordering when you will know - in just two weeks - how good the port will be.

Reading around on different forums etc. people seem to be 99% sure that 60fps will be possible if not shipped with the game then through a simple mod. Same goes for the higher resolutions. This is not a console port.

I don't usually pre-order but I want to see not only XV on PC, but all the other SE RPG's come to steam.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
September 19 2014 13:29 GMT
#918
XIII was my favourite in the series. Did not like the monster in party thing in XIII-2 and XIII-LR I couldn't even finish. If I didn't have almost a 100% save file on my PS3 I would definitely pick up XIII on Steam.

If you can manage the first 20 hour or so "tunnel" and get to Grand Pulse where everything opens up it's a really great game. For me XIII has the best battle system of all the FF games.
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 13:34:06
September 19 2014 13:31 GMT
#919
On September 19 2014 21:59 Manijak wrote:
Is FFXIII more linear play (like FFX) or more open world exploration (like FFVII or FFIX)?


Let me begin with saying that I think all those game are linear games. FFVII and to some extent FFIX just hides it better and makes up for it by giving you the chance to explore the world map every now and to do some sidequest in other areas besides the main quest.

FFXIII and FFX are more linear indeed but IMO this doesn't matter much. The main problem is that the tutorial in FFXIII keeps on forever (like 10 hours at least). It totally kills the immersion and pretty much also kills the challenge in the early- and midgame.

I got a bit burned out on XIII and dropped it, but and apart from the tutorial thing it was more fun than X.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 13:34:39
September 19 2014 13:32 GMT
#920
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