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Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
December 22 2004 22:55 GMT
#41
Wow that pokertracker importing feature seems really really useful. However, it wouldn't for me since i don't play high on pp and i think pp is autopilot and has a lot less to do with poker. I just play supertight and my strong hands overly aggressive and it pays off. I usually win either the bets preflop or i win fullstack allin. Hardly anything in between unless im calling their raises of course.
Fire and blood
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 22 2004 23:53 GMT
#42
it really seems like he could be mensrea but i have to doubt it
im pretty sure at one point i had both smuft and mensrea online on msn
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
December 23 2004 00:12 GMT
#43
Using a program like that is cheating and unfair...but i bet everyone does it. my main focus is real cash games, so cheating on PP doesnt really appeal to me, since i just want to improve. Still, i think its unethical, and you definitely shouldnt be advertising it everywhere
1-10-5
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-23 01:03:33
December 23 2004 01:02 GMT
#44
i was getting the impression that it just saves your hands and tells you how you were doing, similar to a replay in bw. but i guess it could be used while playing to keep track of other players, which is cheating
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
December 23 2004 01:38 GMT
#45
The programs are both quite legal. PartyPoker is aware of their existence and they do not violate their terms of service. In fact, PartyPoker occasionally works with the developer of PokerTracker to accomdate the features it can offer. PartyPoker added real time hand history saving locally on your hard drive because of PokerTracker. Some of you brood war player's logic disappoint me, I had more respect for you than that.

Raszi, I totally play on auto-pilot as well, I can 8 table while on the phone and in an MSN conversation. These numbers just compliment that kind of play.

Kasper, I 4-6 table 10-20 shorthanded for 2.5 BB / 100. I've only recently moved up and haven't really established a win rate with only 10 000 hands but I suspect it'll be somewhere around there. I'll let a fellow Poker player do the math and figure out how much that's worth a month.

Time to go Christmas shopping. I know my family and friends will all be well taken care of this year. Thank you PartyPoker fish.

PS - Do not insult the greatness that is Mensrea by suggesting we may be the same person
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 23 2004 02:00 GMT
#46
hahahahaha
why so 진지해?
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-23 02:08:00
December 23 2004 02:01 GMT
#47
smufts big pictures go here


Just informing you that you are giving your nickname away on the table with AJ
h e l l o e
Jamers
Profile Joined October 2002
Israel1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-23 03:15:01
December 23 2004 02:48 GMT
#48
On December 23 2004 02:14 Smuft wrote:
They are definitely useful in NL. In the beginning stages of a Poker player's career he can identify his 'problem hands' by going through his database and checking his hands that should be in the green but are actually in the red. In the later stages, when you have a nice database going for yourself, you can check up on another player's stats in a sticky situation. A very simple example: UTG limps, you make it 4x the BB with AA in MP, everyone folds and UTG calls. The flop comes K32 rainbow and UTG goes all in, you're thinking WTF does he have? Your first thought is a set but a quick look at his stats and you see that he has never limped UTG with KK and he has never played 22 or 33 UTG so he must fold them, obviously he doesn't have K3 or K2 so you call and he shows you AK. You can understand how useful this would be in a big pot against a player you have a lot of hands on.

Okay, PokerTracker is PokerStars friendly but it is best friends with PartyPoker. You can update 100 hands every 15 minutes? Doesn't it occasionally make mistakes when PT runs the macro to email hand history? I'm not sure if it has this problem with PokerStars but I know it used to happen to me. With PartyPoker, PT imports from your hand history folder stored locally on your hard drive at customizable increments in minutes (mine is set to every 1 minute). You can also set it up to auto import observed hands. Which means, you can leave your PartyPoker running all day long, picking up hands on your opponents and within a few days you have hands on every single player who plays your limit.

POWER!




I am aware of all these PT features and I put them to use as it is.

My question referred to the cute colored numbers you have under players' names on your PP tables. I understand their incredible use in limit, and was wondering whether they'd be any use in NL, and if so, would I need a significantly larger hand sample for them to have any use.

EDIT: Actually, I just thought and I guess you never said those numbers are part of PT. So if they are not, could you please tell me how would one go about getting those cute little things on their own poker table?
CirCa
Profile Joined March 2003
Canada158 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-23 03:11:06
December 23 2004 03:10 GMT
#49
On December 23 2004 10:38 Smuft wrote:
Kasper, I 4-6 table 10-20 shorthanded for 2.5 BB / 100. I've only recently moved up and haven't really established a win rate with only 10 000 hands but I suspect it'll be somewhere around there. I'll let a fellow Poker player do the math and figure out how much that's worth a month.


Has a fellow poker player done the math? cuz I'd like to know.
S.Q)Seven
Profile Joined June 2003
Greece279 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-23 04:30:38
December 23 2004 04:29 GMT
#50
Jamers, they are from Poker tracker. If you have it, go to utilities --> import/export player notes.

Unfortunately "Playerview", the program that makes you able to put the notes above the players' names works only at partypoker's skins.

You can still use those numbers from PT on pokerstars and some other sites, but you have to use them like you use the notes (right clicking in pokerstars's case) which is a little uncomfortable if you are multi-tabling.
VeNSe||
Jamers
Profile Joined October 2002
Israel1327 Posts
December 23 2004 04:39 GMT
#51
Haha Vense, I see you at Leuschne table =].

Anyways, are those numbers useful in NL? Do you use them?

Also do you have a rules file for rating NL players by any chance?
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 23 2004 04:57 GMT
#52
On December 21 2004 20:22 BigBalls wrote:
gee, i wonder why mensrea left......

I was thinking the same thing as I read through his post...
AUSSIESCUM
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S.Q)Seven
Profile Joined June 2003
Greece279 Posts
December 23 2004 05:09 GMT
#53
I think that if i had those numbers above the players names i would had been "forced" to use them. They are useful for sure, but clicking to see them is not very effective. It exports some really nice stats though that i use, like pre-flop aggression and what hands he raised with, but for a full table and with so many different players that you encounter, its not very helpful.

And i dont rate the players, i just remember the regulars and respect them as they respect me.
VeNSe||
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
December 23 2004 08:34 GMT
#54
Hey guys...

I'm starting out on PartyPoker, and have just experience playing with the Play Money. I want to play with small amounts of real money, like $5-$10 CAD. But I only have a PayPal account that I use with my sister's credit card; can I use this to directly pay to PP? I couldn't find any info on it that they would let me... and I don't want to take up Liquid Meat's offer because it's too much much money for me to risk. Is there another way? I thought of maybe paypalling some money to someone... yeah.

Halp?
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
December 24 2004 01:39 GMT
#55
Jamers, you can customize which stats you view with PlayerView. So you really don't need to ask us if those little numbers are useful. You said you already take advantage of PokerTracker's features so you should have no problem customizing your PlayerView to view the PT stats you need. In my opinion, VP$IP and PFR% are the most useful.

Refrain, you are a Canadian. If you cannot risk $25 then you're playing the wrong game, especially when you're getting $75 in return for your $25. Meat's deal will allow you to transfer the money via Paypal.

Rekrul, nice post. Very 'useful'. How about some content next time? Too much to expect from one of the moderators?

Dealer, it took a Swede to be that observant.

Merry Christmas fishes~


Capn
Profile Joined December 2002
United States539 Posts
December 24 2004 02:11 GMT
#56
I just downloaded PlayerView about a week ago and I love it. Not having to wait 5-10 minutes to export player notes is great. And don't have to mess around with PT's gametime window .
SUPREMEICEBEAM!!!
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
December 24 2004 02:57 GMT
#57
Well, I just tried PartyPoker and want to play for real money. The only question is how to get your prize money since they can't transfer it to your credit card...
I am in Russia so cheques is problem here because u need to wait for like 2 months and pay like 3% just to cash this cheque...

Anyone from Russia has such experience?
Pure fan
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-24 03:15:46
December 24 2004 03:14 GMT
#58
PaleMan, http://www.neteller.com . These guys should be able to handle cashouts to a Russian account. The procedure is: cashout to Neteller from PartyPoker and then cashout to your Russian bank account from Neteller (most Poker players do like this). I would start working on making your Neteller account as soon as possible as it will take at least a few days before it's certified and ready to make transfers.

GL ^_^
Jamers
Profile Joined October 2002
Israel1327 Posts
December 24 2004 13:46 GMT
#59
Smuft, or anyone who plays at Eurobet:

I am having trouble getting funds to Eurobet, as they don't accept Firepay, and I can't use my Neteller.

Would you be willing to swap a small amount? Like 100-200$? I'd transfer to PS, and you'd transfer to Eurobet?

Thanks in advance.
Daishi
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom106 Posts
December 24 2004 14:49 GMT
#60


You have posted over 1000 times on a forum and this is your response to the englightenment I offer you?

Don't insult me.


Dick.
ABOYNE (vb.) To beat an expert at a game of skill by playing so appallingly that none of his clever tactics or strategies are of any use to him.- Douglas Adams
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