EPTlive games normally dont go much higher than that.
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Deleted User 3420
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live games normally dont go much higher than that. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On December 21 2004 22:08 Smuft wrote: When you sit down at a Poker table and play the game as it should be played, you have but one goal: take your opponents for everything they're worth. You will find this a much easier task if you play on PartyPoker. The idea that you can learn to play better on PokerStars is ridiculous. You will learn to play better against a different kind of opponent, the kind that is tight and doesn't give you their money easily. While on PartyPoker, you learn to play against loose and fishy opponents, the kind that you can tap for everything they're worth. Which type of opponent would you rather learn to play against? you're talking to bw players bw players want to be the best, not just good | ||
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typhy
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
the swings are too big and the stakes are too high of course you can try and make a run for it, I started myself there and survived, so especially with their deals (like $75 for $25 that's offered through TL) it's very possible to make a good streak. though when that happens don't let it get to you and stay a the lower limits for a while | ||
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Resonate
United Kingdom8402 Posts
i play partypoker but with my addictive personality and gung-ho attitude towards games i can't allow myself to play for real money cos i'd either win loads, play harder tables and get raped, or i'd lose all my money and incur some serious debts. not being naturally amazing at games like this makes me think maybe to err on the side of caution | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
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Roman
United States2595 Posts
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scrapperdog
United States779 Posts
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Kasper
Denmark91 Posts
Also in 15/30 (for whoever plays that) the small blind is 10 and not 7 like other places, forcing you to call a lot more as sb than you normally would. I personally think it should be just 7,5, but then again i dont play that limit very often. | ||
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Larry_David
United States211 Posts
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Smuft
Canada318 Posts
I will also tell you that if you use Meat's deal where you are effectively getting $50 for free (give him $25, get back $50 plus $25 bonus) you will find yourself in a much better spot than if you simply depositted that same $25 on PokerStars where you get little to no bonus at all. The bonuses keep coming too, there is a 15% up to $75 bonus offered to every new player, and there is PartyPokers standard monthly bonuses as well. Kapser, the big blind being the button on PartyPoker is kind of annoying but it's a insignificant in comparison with all of the advantages. The blind structure in 15/30 just promotes more action, I suppose it is a disadvantage for the better player but if you've played that game seriously, you won't have many complaints as it's quality is excellent. The players are ridiculously agressive, overplaying their hands so bad and making impossible bluffs. There is 50 15/30 games running at peak hours and no shortage of fish. I strongly believe the 15/30 at PartyPoker is the best limit ring game on the net. I'm about to have a session right now. I'll post you guys a screenshot when I'm finished that will illustrate the utter power of a professional PartyPoker player abusing all the tools he has at his disposal. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
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Smuft
Canada318 Posts
![[image loading]](http://24.114.180.122/smuft.jpg) Click the link if the screenshot isn't completely viewable. I hope you guys are using 1600x1200. The screenshot is of my desktop during an 8 table session of the 5/10 6 max on PartyPoker. You will notice a bunch of numbers above or below each players name. The numbers from top left to top right are, %VP$IP (flops seen %), Pre-flop raise %, and total hands I have on this player. The bottom numbers are agression factor for the flop, turn, and river. Agression factor is determined by the formula (bet % + call %) / raise %. Now, what do all these numbers mean? Well, I can tell how often a player is in the pot on the flop, how often he raises before the flop and how agressive he is on each street. If a player with a pre flop raise % of 2, raises in front of me, I can safely fold AQo. if a player with a pre flop raise % of 20 raises me, I can 3 bet him with ATo or even worse. If a player calls my bets all the way and suddenly raises me on the turn and has an agression factor of 0.3, I know he's got the nuts or close to it and I can safely lay down top pair. All of these stats are imported in real time into PokerTracker and then updated in real time right on your PartyPoker interface using PlayerView. I'm getting roughly 600 hands an hour on 8 tables and I know my players better than they know themselves as soon as they sit down. Do you understand the power? Can you do that on PokerStars? | ||
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scrapperdog
United States779 Posts
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BinGBonG[gamei]
Netherlands514 Posts
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Jamers
Israel1327 Posts
Would all those stats that you can collect from hand histories be useful in NL? Would a significantly larger hand sample be needed? I have PT, just never bothered to use all that cool stuff you use. And I don't see what you're talking about PS not being PT friendly. I have everything set on auto too, while using PS. It requests 100 hands automatically every 15 mintues, and then automatically checks my e-mail and automatically imports it into the database. | ||
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Smuft
Canada318 Posts
Okay, PokerTracker is PokerStars friendly but it is best friends with PartyPoker. You can update 100 hands every 15 minutes? Doesn't it occasionally make mistakes when PT runs the macro to email hand history? I'm not sure if it has this problem with PokerStars but I know it used to happen to me. With PartyPoker, PT imports from your hand history folder stored locally on your hard drive at customizable increments in minutes (mine is set to every 1 minute). You can also set it up to auto import observed hands. Which means, you can leave your PartyPoker running all day long, picking up hands on your opponents and within a few days you have hands on every single player who plays your limit. POWER! | ||
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Kasper
Denmark91 Posts
And i think its pretty amazing that you can manage 8 tables of shorthanded limit even if the stakes are not very high. 600 hands an hour would be very stressful to me What do you normally play and what do you make? | ||
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TheGoliath
United States682 Posts
get a kickass hand and then raise like hell. i made a couple thousand chips doing it play money before i got bored and switched to low stakes. this sounds basically like what party poker people do. | ||
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BigBalls
United States5354 Posts
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