really doubt dwight leaves orlando unless some one severely overpays for him. Hes still a kid and he loves the attention he gets there, pretty sure hes gonna get another contract down there then maybe when hes a bit older he starts worrying about the championship

also Dirk and Durant both looked horrible in the 4th, so much for closers

funnybananaman

United States830 Posts

May 20 2011 03:53 GMT

#1884

At least 7 or 8 blatant bad calls against the mavericks that were non-negotiably not fouls that game, not sure where stan van gundy saw the great officiating. And Eric Maynor and Perkins combining for like 20 points on shots they never make, i think the mavs still are definitely going to win.

Riskr

Germany403 Posts

May 20 2011 03:55 GMT

#1885

Harden was the Key Factor in Game 2.
Also the Jet was out of Fuel sadly and the Matrix had not played to his skills.
Well it´s gonna be a tough tough series.

Stoids

United States636 Posts

May 20 2011 03:56 GMT

#1886

Although I didn't agree with JVG's observation of "great officiating," I still can't peg this loss on refs. OKC played well, Mavs didn't. I don't expect them to continue shooting 56%, nor do I expect Terry to continue playing poorly. Marion had no touch and the OKC bench was feeling it. These are two very good teams and we'll continue to see this series go down to the wire regularly.

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

May 20 2011 04:03 GMT

#1887

i wish harden wouldnt get rid of his beard. i fucking love it.

city42

1656 Posts

May 20 2011 04:05 GMT

#1888

On May 20 2011 12:52 Brees wrote:
really doubt dwight leaves orlando unless some one severely overpays for him. Hes still a kid and he loves the attention he gets there, pretty sure hes gonna get another contract down there then maybe when hes a bit older he starts worrying about the championship

also Dirk and Durant both looked horrible in the 4th, so much for closers

Overpay? He's getting the same contract no matter where he goes.

eaT_Mi_Lquid

Germany509 Posts

May 20 2011 04:08 GMT

#1889

How was Dirk looking horrible in the 4th ? He was scoring the most of his points in the 4th today. In the 3rd he scored ZERO, that's where he was bad.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

May 20 2011 04:22 GMT

#1890

On May 20 2011 13:05 city42 wrote:

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Overpay? He's getting the same contract no matter where he goes.

Yeah, the NBA has a semi-hard salary cap and, therefore, maximum contracts (both years and salary) that can be handed out. Dwight Howard is a top 5 player in the league due to a combination of physical gifts, age and talent. He'll get max money anywhere. Still, we can't say anything until we see the new CBA, Orlando may be able to offer up to 35% more than any other team - we don't know.

rei

United States3594 Posts

May 20 2011 04:35 GMT

#1891

The only reason Thunders won was because they didn't let westbrook continuously disrupt their offense, good call by the coach for sitting that scrub the entire 4th period

BloodNinja

United States2791 Posts

May 20 2011 04:43 GMT

#1892

On May 20 2011 13:22 slyboogie wrote:

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I doubt the home team adv will go away unless they bring in franchise tags like the NFL has. I dont think will fly though, so the home team advantage will be increasedby increasing the amount paid per year and/or the number of years to the contract for the home team.

I cant remember what the numbers were off the top of my head(so I will pull numbers out my ass), but how many players take say $115 million over 6 years to stay at home where they don't think they will win over say $100 million (also over 6 years) and a chance to win a title. Instead I see it moving to a choice between $100 million over 6 to go versus say 140/150 million over 7 years.

ilikejokes

United States217 Posts

May 20 2011 04:51 GMT

#1893

Ok I didn't get on forums last night so I didn't get a chance to post after the Bulls-Heat game.

Let the record reflect that I was sitting behind Miami's bench (better seats than Riley, he was behind me and to the right) and I could see/hear one of the refs (#9) apologizing to Noah and Boozer for the terrible calls by the other ref (#23) (this was in the 2nd quarter).

Example---
Noah: Where was the foul there? (asking about the one they called against Korver on Wade going baseline)
#9: (shakes his head) There was no foul there. There wasn't a foul.

The officiating was awful this game BUT it wasn't 10 points awful; the Bulls didn't need that much help to lose this game. That was the Bulls' failure to get anything going on offense, missing EASY buckets. Then there were some bad defensive lapses (like Asik leaving Haslem open in the paint to double Wade at the top of the key). The Bulls came out and played possibly the worst game I've seen them play this season and the game was still tied 73-73 with, what, like 5 minutes left to play?

Something that you couldn't get from the TNT broadcast was that the shitty calls just killed the mood in the building... every time the Bulls made a good play or defensive stop, getting the crowd on their feet, #23 (usually) calls some bullshit and completely destroys the mood.

And what's wrong with Taj trying to get the crowd into the game at the end? There's nothing wrong with encouraging the home crowd. I can't believe people would complain about this. Do you only watch basketball on TV and never actually go to games?

Anyway I was disappointed with all of the Bulls and especially Rose, all of whom missed shots they normally make. I'm also pissed at Thibs for playing Korver, honestly unless he's sinking underhand half-court shots while swinging his nuts around like a lasso ((c) Simmons) I'd rather see Bogans or Brewer in the game.

Edit: All the Rose vs. Westbrook comparison/debate is a joke. Yes their production in terms of ppg, apg is similar, and yes they have similar height/weight, but their games and roles are different and it's retarded to suggest that Westbrook is just the Western Conference's Derrick Rose.

Plus Rose won the MVP for reasons that extend beyond the basketball court in addition to his on-court contributions. This is hardly a travesty of an MVP award along the lines of Karl Malone over Michael Jordan. That's a ridiculous comparison.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 20 2011 05:23 GMT

#1894

Bad refereeing 3/4 games in these conference finals. Terrible.

ilikejokes

United States217 Posts

May 20 2011 06:26 GMT

#1895

On May 20 2011 14:23 cLutZ wrote:
Bad refereeing 3/4 games in these conference finals. Terrible.

Honestly the NBA needs a way for the other refs to overrule a bad call, but they'll never do it. Sigh.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

May 20 2011 06:49 GMT

#1896

On May 20 2011 14:23 cLutZ wrote:
Bad refereeing 3/4 games in these conference finals. Terrible.

It's become a major liability the past 10 years. Maybe it just got less attention before then, when there wasn't TIVO and instant Youtube videos with every mistake, but now that we know it's there, it's starting to infect the games. Like, even if both teams are playing great, there's an itch in my mind about the refereeing and it makes me dislike watching. The best thing I can compare it to would be professional SC2 on default Blizzard only maps. If we went back to things like Incineration Zone or Steppes, I would stop watching.

It's probably more difficult to officiate, both logistically and in terms of the speed of the game, than the NFL, but the NFL uses more people and a more rigorous method. The NBA needs to start paying refs a lot more (so their selection pool will increase) and get younger blood. I'm not even a real Mavs fan, but I might kill someone if I see Salvatore/Joey Crawford/Danny Crawford ref another one of their games. I have a hard time not believing Donaghy about these guys.

EDIT: And I know those aren't the offenders tonight, but they're consistently the worst.