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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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Shewklad
Sweden482 Posts
On July 31 2011 16:38 MiyaviTeddy wrote: how does one obtain alpha? They randomly select people that have an EA account. If I'm not mistaken. | ||
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Grettin
42383 Posts
On July 31 2011 16:45 Shewklad wrote: They randomly select people that have an EA account. If I'm not mistaken. There is couple of "requirements" that you need to fill to get one, according to EA. But Alpha ends tomorrow so it's pointless to try to get one. | ||
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Perdac Curall
242 Posts
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Latham
9571 Posts
Show spotting on the minimap sure to get the general feel and direction, but not on the freaking screen right in front of your eyes for stupid crap like that hiding-in-the-bush-21-nuke-kill-streak-made-easy crap -.- and it's so precise too... they can still fix it by adding maybe a delay on the triangle movements say... 5s? But I don't like what I see =/ | ||
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Pinkie
United States145 Posts
On August 01 2011 09:35 Latham wrote: Oh God, that spotting video looked so terribly bad and broken =( Show spotting on the minimap sure to get the general feel and direction, but not on the freaking screen right in front of your eyes for stupid crap like that hiding-in-the-bush-21-nuke-kill-streak-made-easy crap -.- and it's so precise too... they can still fix it by adding maybe a delay on the triangle movements say... 5s? But I don't like what I see =/ The spotting is the SINGLE biggest issue with the game right now. That said, it is honestly the only major problem with the gameplay. The only thing that needs to be done to fix the spotting system is add in the same kind of restraints(if not maybe even more) on it that Bad Company 2 has. The way the system works in BC2 is that you can only 'spot' a player if they are within a certain distance.Even if you can somehow see them, it won't let you put a triangle on them if they are too far. Also the system doesn't mark people through bushes and rocks as it does now. In BC2 you couldn't spot someone unless you legitimately saw them, in BF3 right now you can just spam Q and target people across the map and behind a rock. These things are easily fixed though since the code is already written, just needs to be added. Aside from the Spotting System the only major complain I have is that the games seem to be way to Camp Centric. It's like you always need to be in crouch, or prone and behind cover otherwise you're not going to live. This kind of play leads to people just sitting around and camping instead of advancing and taking objectives like in BC2. | ||
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Latham
9571 Posts
On August 01 2011 09:53 Pinkie wrote: The spotting is the SINGLE biggest issue with the game right now. That said, it is honestly the only major problem with the gameplay. The only thing that needs to be done to fix the spotting system is add in the same kind of restraints(if not maybe even more) on it that Bad Company 2 has. The way the system works in BC2 is that you can only 'spot' a player if they are within a certain distance.Even if you can somehow see them, it won't let you put a triangle on them if they are too far. Also the system doesn't mark people through bushes and rocks as it does now. In BC2 you couldn't spot someone unless you legitimately saw them, in BF3 right now you can just spam Q and target people across the map and behind a rock. These things are easily fixed though since the code is already written, just needs to be added. Aside from the Spotting System the only major complain I have is that the games seem to be way to Camp Centric. It's like you always need to be in crouch, or prone and behind cover otherwise you're not going to live. This kind of play leads to people just sitting around and camping instead of advancing and taking objectives like in BC2. What types of games did you guys get to play during alpha? Rush? Death match? Conquest? Also: How does the damage or shots needs to kill someone compare to BF2? Less shots needed? Maybe decrease the weapon damage and add a max range to weapons or make them or their bullets incredibly imprecise after X range so spraying and camping won't be rewarded so much? I can live without commander although it's painful, but shit like this needs to get ironed out so the game will be actually enjoyable =/ | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
In BF2 it would take 3 or more bursts to kill someone at distance, but in the alpha there's not much more to gunplay than holding down the fire button and firing 15+ bullets at once. Burst firing is pointless, and though tap firing is a bit harder than it was in BC2, (lots of vertical auto-centering recoil means your crosshair falls below where you were aiming whenever you let go of the trigger) it can reduce bullet spread to nothing for some really bullshit near-instant kills at long range It's flawed I think, but one of the devs on twitter mentioned they're changing the LMGs to have more horizontal 'jitter' and less vertical recoil, which is a step in the right direction IMO | ||
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 01 2011 13:05 Jswizzy wrote: Man I hope the game gets better. The alpha is bad, just plain bad. Battlefield play for free has better controls and gunplay then this piece of shit. I just wish someone would make an FPS that could compare to BF2, CS, or quake. Right now this game isn't even as goods as brink, which failed. Maybe it's just because it's an alpha and alpha always suck but I'm pretty close to canceling my preorder. what? lol the only thing that was "bad" in the alpha imo was the spotting. which I believe can be disabled on servers so its not as easy as that. The fact you think its just plain bad is hilarious, especially when you say battlefield play for free has better gunplay. What types of games did you guys get to play during alpha? Rush? Death match? Conquest? Also: How does the damage or shots needs to kill someone compare to BF2? Less shots needed? Maybe decrease the weapon damage and add a max range to weapons or make them or their bullets incredibly imprecise after X range so spraying and camping won't be rewarded so much? I can live without commander although it's painful, but shit like this needs to get ironed out so the game will be actually enjoyable =/ Only got to play rush unfortunately  . really want to play Conquest 32 vs 32, but will have to wait for release for that.Um less shots needed for sure, bullet hit seemed good, definitely not as hard to kill someone as in BF2. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
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Pinkie
United States145 Posts
On August 01 2011 11:40 Aduromors wrote: Burst firing is pointless, and though tap firing is a bit harder than it was in BC2, (lots of vertical auto-centering recoil means your crosshair falls below where you were aiming whenever you let go of the trigger) it can reduce bullet spread to nothing for some really bullshit near-instant kills at long range It's flawed I think, but one of the devs on twitter mentioned they're changing the LMGs to have more horizontal 'jitter' and less vertical recoil, which is a step in the right direction IMO Burst firing is actually the most effective way to shoot in BF3. I mean even if you have a foregrip on your rifle the recoil goes all over the place while you're shooting. I almost always burst fired and got tons of kills using burst fire too, also conserves ammo. The guns are really different from CoD style gameplay where just spraying at people is the best way to kill them. In BF3 I found that it was much easier to kill using 3-4 round burst sprays. An aside to the poster stating that this game sucks. You do know that this is just now August- and the game is slated for October.. There is plenty of time to fix the few issues there are with actual gameplay. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 02 2011 04:29 Pinkie wrote: Burst firing is actually the most effective way to shoot in BF3. I mean even if you have a foregrip on your rifle the recoil goes all over the place while you're shooting. I almost always burst fired and got tons of kills using burst fire too, also conserves ammo. The guns are really different from CoD style gameplay where just spraying at people is the best way to kill them. In BF3 I found that it was much easier to kill using 3-4 round burst sprays. An aside to the poster stating that this game sucks. You do know that this is just now August- and the game is slated for October.. There is plenty of time to fix the few issues there are with actual gameplay. Actually the last few months are the beta phase where the game fixes minor graphical issues, sees the game can be fully completed and tests the last minor issues such as game flow and out of world textures/splitting, etc. Huge gameplay changes are rare in this stage. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 01 2011 20:02 Pangolin wrote: Hmm the launcher doesn't seem to work anymore. I guess that's the end for the Alpha. Too bad, I didn't really get to play it much on Saturday and Sunday because of MLG/EVO and a birthday barbeque. I look forward to beta, but hope they have a conquest map or at least a map that is less difficult for attackers. Also, more destruction in the maps and ironing out some bugs would certainly be welcome haha. I personally really liked the alpha, but then again I loved BC2 as well. for the alpha I was told they removed destruction due to how unoptimized the game was, being an alpha and all. I don't know if its true just going by what I was told. But I agree, I hope for Beta in september its a conquest map, praying for it! :D | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 02 2011 04:40 Shelke14 wrote: Is alpha down? I got the invite email, downloaded it and its not working now alpha ended today. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
On August 02 2011 04:37 blade55555 wrote: for the alpha I was told they removed destruction due to how unoptimized the game was, being an alpha and all. I don't know if its true just going by what I was told. But I agree, I hope for Beta in september its a conquest map, praying for it! :D Destruction was not completely removed in the alpha, there were walls you could blow up, especially in the 4th section of the map. The problem is that the first couple areas in the alpha, which were all you usually were able to see, didn't have much opportunity for destruction simply due to the map. The first part was a park and the second part was underground, if they had "full" destructibility underground it would just cave in the subway lol. I think what they meant by removing destruction was that even in the 4th area which had outdoor buildings, you were unable to completely knock down buildings like in BC2, you could only blow up walls. I'm sure in the full version there will be buildings which can be blown up completely. I'm not sure if you will be able to blow up buildings containing MCOMS to destroy the objectives, like you could in BC2. The reason I'm skeptical of this returning is that BF3 already removed the ability to do damage to MCOMS with explosives like C4 or Rocket Launchers. I think this is a good thing, I never really liked the way attackers could cheese certain objectives in BC2. | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
On August 02 2011 04:29 Pinkie wrote: Burst firing is actually the most effective way to shoot in BF3. I mean even if you have a foregrip on your rifle the recoil goes all over the place while you're shooting. I almost always burst fired and got tons of kills using burst fire too, also conserves ammo. The guns are really different from CoD style gameplay where just spraying at people is the best way to kill them. In BF3 I found that it was much easier to kill using 3-4 round burst sprays. An aside to the poster stating that this game sucks. You do know that this is just now August- and the game is slated for October.. There is plenty of time to fix the few issues there are with actual gameplay. I don't know what game you were playing, but burst firing is a fast way to get killed if they shoot back. Full auto and tap fire is very very accurate. You have to adjust for recoil while you fire, were you playing with a controller by chance? | ||
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Grettin
42383 Posts
Hope so. | ||
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