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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 06 2011 04:27 GMT
#6361
On November 06 2011 13:22 TMStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:23 Assault_1 wrote:
On November 06 2011 04:41 Werk wrote:
I have to say, i bought this games last night and am very impressed, i thought the game play would be too slow as i am used to playing modern warfare games, but the games is pretty decently fast. The thing that really blows me away about this games is the scale, you can see tanks and planes and choppers from miles away, and its pretty cool to think that they are all being controlled by real players. Games like MW are really good at making environments that have artificial backgrounds and triggered events in the background that look cool but are the same every time that you play through. Battlefield doesn't have anything artificial (at least in multiplayer) because the game play is so impressive that it kinds makes the environment real.

yay, now help us convert the rest of the cod fanboys

Why? So we can up our K:D ratios?

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 12:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

How long was that game? Almost everyone is 2k+ in points. Crazy.

On a side note, how has game stability been for you guys? Started to hit a fair few crashes today. My friend crashes once an alt-tab/hour. Hope they release a patch soon.

edit:
So reading through the last couple of pages, only server side patches have been released?


700 tickets
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:11:12
November 06 2011 05:07 GMT
#6362
I have moved fully into "crash every 15 minutes" mode . F you EA, your stability farking blows. When it takes me a solid 1.5 minutes to even load into your game, I should not be crashing every 15 as well. Playing BF3 is just such a pain....long load times, random terrible lag spikes that aren't on my end, long boring waits in between maps, and crashing for no reason every 15 minutes......when every other major game in existence works just fine......just....F you EA.

On the bright side, the TL server has been much more entertaining and fun. Tried it tonight, and it seemed much more like a normal server. If only I could stay in it for more than 1 map before crashing.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:25:05
November 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#6363
On November 06 2011 14:07 Sm3agol wrote:
I have moved fully into "crash every 15 minutes" mode . F you EA, your stability farking blows. When it takes me a solid 1.5 minutes to even load into your game, I should not be crashing every 15 as well. Playing BF3 is just such a pain....long load times, random terrible lag spikes that aren't on my end, long boring waits in between maps, and crashing for no reason every 15 minutes......when every other major game in existence works just fine......just....F you EA.

On the bright side, the TL server has been much more entertaining and fun. Tried it tonight, and it seemed much more like a normal server. If only I could stay in it for more than 1 map before crashing.


Maybe if you are crashing so much, have you thought that maybe , i dont know, you should look into a potential hardware problem instead of jumping on the origin/EA hate bandwagon, and actually fix your game?

Not me nor any of my friends have crashing issues, after updating drivers, anyway.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
November 06 2011 06:11 GMT
#6364
On November 06 2011 13:22 TMStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:23 Assault_1 wrote:
On November 06 2011 04:41 Werk wrote:
I have to say, i bought this games last night and am very impressed, i thought the game play would be too slow as i am used to playing modern warfare games, but the games is pretty decently fast. The thing that really blows me away about this games is the scale, you can see tanks and planes and choppers from miles away, and its pretty cool to think that they are all being controlled by real players. Games like MW are really good at making environments that have artificial backgrounds and triggered events in the background that look cool but are the same every time that you play through. Battlefield doesn't have anything artificial (at least in multiplayer) because the game play is so impressive that it kinds makes the environment real.

yay, now help us convert the rest of the cod fanboys

Why? So we can up our K:D ratios?



I know this is a joke, but I do seriously wonder if BF players really think most CoD players are just numbskull retards (this is my first BF game, I've been playing CoD since vanilla, and I do just fine, if not better, than most players I encounter, as does my clan of CoD fanboys and BF first-timers). Yes, the TDM/SnD/DOM killwhores are going to try to rambo in a game where you can easily be outnumbered from a far larger amount of vantage points, unlike the less dynamic CoD environments. But CoD skill, surprisingly, actually translates into (infantry) gameplay in BF pretty well.

Move to reduce where you can be shot from, do not make yourself known if you do not have to, go for the objective, cover the areas your teammates are not, squish opposition from multiple sides, get your crosses set up, communicate effectively.

A few of the things mentioned do not apply to TDM, but more to the objective modes in CoD.

Now, I will concede that the average CoD player is, in fact, bad. There's actually a rather odd gap between a typical pubstar and a legit player in CoD. Unfortunately, things in that game (and BF) tend to make skill useless. But at least BF3 has more team synergy with squad roles. Ultimately, it makes this game a lot more enjoyable, not only because my teammates can replenish me (and I, them), but it gives players more defined roles, unlike CoD where the roles can be a bit more abstract and difficult to understand.

So, in closing, I'm a CoD fanboy that loves that series, but BF3 is one hell of a relief and we CoD players are actually pretty good at this game, at least the ones that didn't only play to get high KDR. And even our clan leader, who did just act as a kill whore, is damn good at this game too.

I hope we compete at some point though. Would be nice to get humiliated and learn how to really be badass.
Graviton
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:31:35
November 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#6365
Hey guys, whenever I try to launch BF3 from the battlelog, I keep getting an error that states I don't have the required level DirectX, yet I have DirectX 11, and a 6950. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 08:13:52
November 06 2011 08:12 GMT
#6366
On November 06 2011 15:11 RageOverdose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 13:22 TMStarcraft wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:23 Assault_1 wrote:
On November 06 2011 04:41 Werk wrote:
I have to say, i bought this games last night and am very impressed, i thought the game play would be too slow as i am used to playing modern warfare games, but the games is pretty decently fast. The thing that really blows me away about this games is the scale, you can see tanks and planes and choppers from miles away, and its pretty cool to think that they are all being controlled by real players. Games like MW are really good at making environments that have artificial backgrounds and triggered events in the background that look cool but are the same every time that you play through. Battlefield doesn't have anything artificial (at least in multiplayer) because the game play is so impressive that it kinds makes the environment real.

yay, now help us convert the rest of the cod fanboys

Why? So we can up our K:D ratios?



I know this is a joke, but I do seriously wonder if BF players really think most CoD players are just numbskull retards (this is my first BF game, I've been playing CoD since vanilla, and I do just fine, if not better, than most players I encounter, as does my clan of CoD fanboys and BF first-timers). Yes, the TDM/SnD/DOM killwhores are going to try to rambo in a game where you can easily be outnumbered from a far larger amount of vantage points, unlike the less dynamic CoD environments. But CoD skill, surprisingly, actually translates into (infantry) gameplay in BF pretty well.

Move to reduce where you can be shot from, do not make yourself known if you do not have to, go for the objective, cover the areas your teammates are not, squish opposition from multiple sides, get your crosses set up, communicate effectively.

A few of the things mentioned do not apply to TDM, but more to the objective modes in CoD.

Now, I will concede that the average CoD player is, in fact, bad. There's actually a rather odd gap between a typical pubstar and a legit player in CoD. Unfortunately, things in that game (and BF) tend to make skill useless. But at least BF3 has more team synergy with squad roles. Ultimately, it makes this game a lot more enjoyable, not only because my teammates can replenish me (and I, them), but it gives players more defined roles, unlike CoD where the roles can be a bit more abstract and difficult to understand.

So, in closing, I'm a CoD fanboy that loves that series, but BF3 is one hell of a relief and we CoD players are actually pretty good at this game, at least the ones that didn't only play to get high KDR. And even our clan leader, who did just act as a kill whore, is damn good at this game too.

I hope we compete at some point though. Would be nice to get humiliated and learn how to really be badass.



You played since vanilla CoD and you still play?..CoD1 was my favorite FPS back in the day, i was top fanboy playing it all the time, 2 didnt impress me but wasnt bad..3 was bad but i accepted it was by a different developer..4 came out and I loved it...then 5 came out and I disowned the series. I get different people like different things..but to me they killed it with 5. =\ I left and haven't looked back.

Mix in about 2000 hours of BF2 between CoD1 and CoD4 and BF3 was an instant buy for me
You can't milk those!
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
November 06 2011 08:27 GMT
#6367
On November 06 2011 15:11 RageOverdose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 13:22 TMStarcraft wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:23 Assault_1 wrote:
On November 06 2011 04:41 Werk wrote:
I have to say, i bought this games last night and am very impressed, i thought the game play would be too slow as i am used to playing modern warfare games, but the games is pretty decently fast. The thing that really blows me away about this games is the scale, you can see tanks and planes and choppers from miles away, and its pretty cool to think that they are all being controlled by real players. Games like MW are really good at making environments that have artificial backgrounds and triggered events in the background that look cool but are the same every time that you play through. Battlefield doesn't have anything artificial (at least in multiplayer) because the game play is so impressive that it kinds makes the environment real.

yay, now help us convert the rest of the cod fanboys

Why? So we can up our K:D ratios?



I know this is a joke, but I do seriously wonder if BF players really think most CoD players are just numbskull retards (this is my first BF game, I've been playing CoD since vanilla, and I do just fine, if not better, than most players I encounter, as does my clan of CoD fanboys and BF first-timers). Yes, the TDM/SnD/DOM killwhores are going to try to rambo in a game where you can easily be outnumbered from a far larger amount of vantage points, unlike the less dynamic CoD environments. But CoD skill, surprisingly, actually translates into (infantry) gameplay in BF pretty well.

Move to reduce where you can be shot from, do not make yourself known if you do not have to, go for the objective, cover the areas your teammates are not, squish opposition from multiple sides, get your crosses set up, communicate effectively.

A few of the things mentioned do not apply to TDM, but more to the objective modes in CoD.

Now, I will concede that the average CoD player is, in fact, bad. There's actually a rather odd gap between a typical pubstar and a legit player in CoD. Unfortunately, things in that game (and BF) tend to make skill useless. But at least BF3 has more team synergy with squad roles. Ultimately, it makes this game a lot more enjoyable, not only because my teammates can replenish me (and I, them), but it gives players more defined roles, unlike CoD where the roles can be a bit more abstract and difficult to understand.

So, in closing, I'm a CoD fanboy that loves that series, but BF3 is one hell of a relief and we CoD players are actually pretty good at this game, at least the ones that didn't only play to get high KDR. And even our clan leader, who did just act as a kill whore, is damn good at this game too.

I hope we compete at some point though. Would be nice to get humiliated and learn how to really be badass.

I'd say that CoD is a much easier game to play multiplayer than Battlefield, partially because you can go one man rambo style and wipe out of whole teams (killstreaks, imba guns, warp-knifing etc.) and that the team aspect was rather mute. I've played both MW2 and Bad Company 2 for extended periods of time (clocked 275 hours according to steam for MW2) and pub players/teams (MW2) definitely don't do most of the things you mentioned:

Move to reduce where you can be shot from, do not make yourself known if you do not have to, go for the objective, cover the areas your teammates are not, squish opposition from multiple sides, get your crosses set up, communicate effectively.

To be fair, covering areas where your teammates are not happens in BF as well.

And sure if you play with friends or an actual team, you'd have much more opportunity to actually do those things you mentioned. Unfortunately CoD itself doesn't encourage it. Oddly enough, I was usually quite unhappy when there was someone who was as good or better than I was on my team, because they'd take kills away from my own killstreak, making it harder/longer to get an AC-130 in the air.

I don't buy into the whole CoD players are terribad at FPS in general idea, it's just hard to translate what you've (plural) been accustomed to in CoD and shift over to BF without a lot left wanting (e.g. teamwork, weapon usage). Also there are a lot of angry (bad) kiddies.

From what you written though, sounds like you play fairly well and have already learnt how to work in a team, so I doubt there is any huge skill gap between yourself and a good BF player. Long story short, in CoD, if you were a good player, your team didn't really matter, in BF, to be a good player, you must help your team.

On a different note, I can never help but be impressed by those imba helicopter pilots
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IMSmooth
Profile Joined May 2011
United States679 Posts
November 06 2011 08:45 GMT
#6368
Dunno if this has been posted.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/11/battlefield-3-xbox-360-sales-top-playstation-3-and-pc-combined/

Copies Sold:
360 - 2.2m
PS3 - 1.5m
PC - 500,000

Kinda sad... seeing as they focused on PC and it is definitely the superior version. It would be foolish for developers to continue to do so, seeing as console gaming is just more popular now and that pirating is still a huge issue. Business is business T_T
"Get your shit done... THEN party" - NonY
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 08:47:12
November 06 2011 08:46 GMT
#6369
You believe that BF3 sold for only half a million for PC? Really?

Nice job stuff out of context, Its a relatively short article, but you didn't even bother reading the whole thing before trolling.

The numbers aren’t 100% accurate as some digital retailers, including EA’s Origin, haven’t disclosed their sales numbers, so it’s likely that the numbers for the PC version are higher than reported. Just after Battlefield 3 shipped, EA reported that 10 million units were shipped.
Sure.
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
November 06 2011 09:23 GMT
#6370
On November 06 2011 15:13 Graviton wrote:
Hey guys, whenever I try to launch BF3 from the battlelog, I keep getting an error that states I don't have the required level DirectX, yet I have DirectX 11, and a 6950. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

Try reinstalling DirectX. If you get another error, note down exactly what it says and post back.
||
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
November 06 2011 10:37 GMT
#6371
On November 06 2011 17:46 HydraLF wrote:
You believe that BF3 sold for only half a million for PC? Really?

Nice job stuff out of context, Its a relatively short article, but you didn't even bother reading the whole thing before trolling.

Show nested quote +
The numbers aren’t 100% accurate as some digital retailers, including EA’s Origin, haven’t disclosed their sales numbers, so it’s likely that the numbers for the PC version are higher than reported. Just after Battlefield 3 shipped, EA reported that 10 million units were shipped.

PC outselling consoles is pretty much impossible in multi-platform releases nowadays. It doesn't matter if a game's development is focussed on PC, xbox and playstation will outsell it by a huge margin. Microsoft recently reported 50 million Xbox360 consoles sold over the past six years. That's huge. The amount of gaming PCs doesn't even come close to that.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
November 06 2011 10:47 GMT
#6372
Half way through development they switched SKU Focus to consoles from PC, the focus wasn't on PC for very long. Kind of evident due to the fact we don't have VOIP in-game, don't even have any chat functions in co-op. God I hate devs some time.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
November 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#6373
An M249 with an IRNV scope is insanely good.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 11:05:21
November 06 2011 11:04 GMT
#6374
And a bipod.


If PC sells less it will be made up for in the duration that players will remain active. BFBC2 still has players.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 06 2011 11:07 GMT
#6375
On November 06 2011 13:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 13:22 TMStarcraft wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:23 Assault_1 wrote:
On November 06 2011 04:41 Werk wrote:
I have to say, i bought this games last night and am very impressed, i thought the game play would be too slow as i am used to playing modern warfare games, but the games is pretty decently fast. The thing that really blows me away about this games is the scale, you can see tanks and planes and choppers from miles away, and its pretty cool to think that they are all being controlled by real players. Games like MW are really good at making environments that have artificial backgrounds and triggered events in the background that look cool but are the same every time that you play through. Battlefield doesn't have anything artificial (at least in multiplayer) because the game play is so impressive that it kinds makes the environment real.

yay, now help us convert the rest of the cod fanboys

Why? So we can up our K:D ratios?

On November 06 2011 12:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

How long was that game? Almost everyone is 2k+ in points. Crazy.

On a side note, how has game stability been for you guys? Started to hit a fair few crashes today. My friend crashes once an alt-tab/hour. Hope they release a patch soon.

edit:
So reading through the last couple of pages, only server side patches have been released?


700 tickets

Why were you shitting on pubs without us you cheating whore.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
November 06 2011 11:10 GMT
#6376
On November 06 2011 17:45 IMSmooth wrote:
Dunno if this has been posted.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/11/battlefield-3-xbox-360-sales-top-playstation-3-and-pc-combined/

Copies Sold:
360 - 2.2m
PS3 - 1.5m
PC - 500,000

Kinda sad... seeing as they focused on PC and it is definitely the superior version. It would be foolish for developers to continue to do so, seeing as console gaming is just more popular now and that pirating is still a huge issue. Business is business T_T



They indeed "Focused" on the PC, the lead platform was switched to the consoles halfway through development.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 06 2011 11:12 GMT
#6377
On November 06 2011 17:46 HydraLF wrote:
You believe that BF3 sold for only half a million for PC? Really?

Nice job stuff out of context, Its a relatively short article, but you didn't even bother reading the whole thing before trolling.


The numbers aren’t 100% accurate as some digital retailers, including EA’s Origin, haven’t disclosed their sales numbers, so it’s likely that the numbers for the PC version are higher than reported. Just after Battlefield 3 shipped, EA reported that 10 million units were shipped.

Gonna requote this so people don't miss the explanation of the numbers >.> Inaccurate data by IMSmooth.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
November 06 2011 11:19 GMT
#6378
Guys I want to get a joystick for the jets in this game but I don't know which are compatible. Is there a site I can check or a link to some of the ones you use? The less expensive the better as this is the only game I'd be using it for.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
November 06 2011 11:20 GMT
#6379
On November 06 2011 20:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Guys I want to get a joystick for the jets in this game but I don't know which are compatible. Is there a site I can check or a link to some of the ones you use? The less expensive the better as this is the only game I'd be using it for.



Oh yeah, good question to bring up..I'd actually like to know what a good choice is as well..
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
November 06 2011 12:57 GMT
#6380
On November 06 2011 20:20 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 20:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Guys I want to get a joystick for the jets in this game but I don't know which are compatible. Is there a site I can check or a link to some of the ones you use? The less expensive the better as this is the only game I'd be using it for.



Oh yeah, good question to bring up..I'd actually like to know what a good choice is as well..


I'd say most major joystick makers will have adequate products available. Get one with a rotating handle, so you have control over three dimensions. The rest is up to your preferences (like the price, number of buttons etc)
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