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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3263 Posts
February 13 2016 19:35 GMT
#11641
On February 13 2016 20:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 20:34 Probemicro wrote:
your save file is probably already fucked up.


I restarted a new game. Same problem.

This is sooo weird. If i use he strafe keys i have like little fps drop. But if i touch the mousee... 1fps

Steam has a set the check gamefiles function iirc. For some reason it sometimes does that by itself in skyrim. Would be all good, if that wouldn't rewrite the .ini files.
You'll need to rewrite whatever your enb added to the .ini files but after that it should work. That would be where I would look first.

Btw you didn't have problems with the enb before, right? Because ENBs can easily drop your fps to 1 if your pc isnt good enough.
low gravity, yes-yes!
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 01:24:26
February 14 2016 01:18 GMT
#11642
On February 13 2016 20:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello,

I'm looking for help. out of the blue Skyrim started to have MASSIVE frame rate drop when turning. i use a LOT of mods and always had 60 to 120 fps even with 300ish mods.

So i did everything i could find on the internet. Then i hit rock bottom... i deactivated every mods. Started skyrim after veryfying cache. I still have those fps drops.

The only thing that stayed is the ENB. i really don't know what to do. I can't reinstall everything with more than 300 mods and 200 plugins
Because deactivating and reinstalling doesn't take the same time

Anyone know how to fix this ?

Is this when you're facing north? I had that issue for a while, but don't anymore. Not sure what fixed it. Have you modified your enblocal and skyrimprefs.ini a lot? In general, less is more for these, it seems, as too much figeting can hurt things. Of course, ensure you have this in your skyrimprefs.ini

[DISPLAY]
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
bShadowsOnGrass=1

I suppose it could be the mouse acceleration that occurs when shifting the view that could affect it. Try toggling it off.

[CONTROLS]
bMouseAcceleration=0

I'd advice you to follow this for configuring your enb.

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENB

Worst case - backup then delete your ENBlocal.ini, skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini from their appropriate folders (ENBlocal in steamapps/common/skyrim; skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini from User/My documents/my games/skyrim and ModOrganiser/profiles/YOURPROFILE/) and use steam to verify game integrity to have them re-download, as well as re-adding ENBlocal. This will purge your INIs and let you start without them vastly modified (which happens over time during rigorous troubleshooting.)
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 14 2016 04:22 GMT
#11643
Guys I need to remove Skyrim to clear up some space on my PC. Should I remove the mods first or can I just delete Skyrim and maybe reinstall it later without issues?
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 11:41:25
February 14 2016 11:31 GMT
#11644
On February 14 2016 13:22 B.I.G. wrote:
Guys I need to remove Skyrim to clear up some space on my PC. Should I remove the mods first or can I just delete Skyrim and maybe reinstall it later without issues?

If you're using ModOrganizer, the files are separate from Steam/steamapps/common/skyrim, and needs to be deleted in ModOrganizer. Two folders in ModOrganizer contain your mods - download and mods. Delete the contents of mods especially, and downloads as well if you're not planning on reusing. Once you've deleted these, delete skyrim through steam as normal, then find steam/steamapps/common and delete the entire Skyrim folder to remove any extra files. You should also find USER/My documents/my games/skyrim and delete this folder, as it contains your savegames and .inis.

If you're using Nexus Mod Manager or freeballing without a manager, you should uninstall through steam as usual, then find steam/steamapps/common and delete the entire Skyrim folder to remove any extra files. You should also find USER/My documents/my games/skyrim and delete this folder.

If you're using NMM, you should also have defined a download folder for mods through that program. Find the folder and delete any content to free up space.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 16:53:49
February 14 2016 16:00 GMT
#11645
On February 14 2016 04:35 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 20:36 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 13 2016 20:34 Probemicro wrote:
your save file is probably already fucked up.


I restarted a new game. Same problem.

This is sooo weird. If i use he strafe keys i have like little fps drop. But if i touch the mousee... 1fps

Steam has a set the check gamefiles function iirc. For some reason it sometimes does that by itself in skyrim. Would be all good, if that wouldn't rewrite the .ini files.
You'll need to rewrite whatever your enb added to the .ini files but after that it should work. That would be where I would look first.

Btw you didn't have problems with the enb before, right? Because ENBs can easily drop your fps to 1 if your pc isnt good enough.


No i didn't Tried updating it same problem.. Tried texture optimizer Same problem.

On February 14 2016 10:18 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 20:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello,

I'm looking for help. out of the blue Skyrim started to have MASSIVE frame rate drop when turning. i use a LOT of mods and always had 60 to 120 fps even with 300ish mods.

So i did everything i could find on the internet. Then i hit rock bottom... i deactivated every mods. Started skyrim after veryfying cache. I still have those fps drops.

The only thing that stayed is the ENB. i really don't know what to do. I can't reinstall everything with more than 300 mods and 200 plugins
Because deactivating and reinstalling doesn't take the same time

Anyone know how to fix this ?

Is this when you're facing north? I had that issue for a while, but don't anymore. Not sure what fixed it. Have you modified your enblocal and skyrimprefs.ini a lot? In general, less is more for these, it seems, as too much figeting can hurt things. Of course, ensure you have this in your skyrimprefs.ini

[DISPLAY]
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
bShadowsOnGrass=1

I suppose it could be the mouse acceleration that occurs when shifting the view that could affect it. Try toggling it off.

[CONTROLS]
bMouseAcceleration=0

I'd advice you to follow this for configuring your enb.

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENB

Worst case - backup then delete your ENBlocal.ini, skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini from their appropriate folders (ENBlocal in steamapps/common/skyrim; skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini from User/My documents/my games/skyrim and ModOrganiser/profiles/YOURPROFILE/) and use steam to verify game integrity to have them re-download, as well as re-adding ENBlocal. This will purge your INIs and let you start without them vastly modified (which happens over time during rigorous troubleshooting.)


Nope didn't touch it since i setup my mods 4 month ago. I verified skyrim prefs and i have mouseaccel. I set it to 0.

I already did the .ini and verify witth no avail. Will launch with mouseaccel at 0 to see but i don't have high hopes

EDIT : mouseaccel didn't do that trick

EDIT2 : I'm giving up It's been a week i try stuff.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 24 2016 08:22 GMT
#11646
Has modding gotten any easier/simpler?

I went to play Skyrim again and the sensitivity was just too much to adjust and test (having to load the launcher then load my game).

Now BOSS is LOOT and Nexus Mod Manager has three install paths.



It really makes wanting to play these games or even Fallout 4 too much of a retooling chore to really want to play again, despite my urge to play a game where I can explore!
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 08:43:03
June 24 2016 08:39 GMT
#11647
Just wait Three month for Skyrim remastered !!!

28th of October and you will not have the 4Gb limitation as before.

I'm just drooling not to have to configure FISS again to run warzone, civil war and sot at the same time.

No more fiddleing (or so i hope)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 24 2016 09:37 GMT
#11648
On June 24 2016 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote:
Just wait Three month for Skyrim remastered !!!

28th of October and you will not have the 4Gb limitation as before.

I'm just drooling not to have to configure FISS again to run warzone, civil war and sot at the same time.

No more fiddleing (or so i hope)


What 4GB limitation?

I'm just thinking about all the stuff I have to do to get Skyrim running remotely up to expectaitons of graphics and gameplay:

1. Nexus Mod Manager
2. BOSS/Loot
3. SKSE
4. Modifying the .ini files for sensitivity and various other settings
5. Installing mods, testing, replacing files or reading different settings installation paths if I want 1 part of a mod or want to remove another.

Makes my head spin. Is Fallout 4 any easier/different/less strenuous?
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mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
June 24 2016 10:36 GMT
#11649
On June 24 2016 17:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
Has modding gotten any easier/simpler?

I went to play Skyrim again and the sensitivity was just too much to adjust and test (having to load the launcher then load my game).

Now BOSS is LOOT and Nexus Mod Manager has three install paths.



It really makes wanting to play these games or even Fallout 4 too much of a retooling chore to really want to play again, despite my urge to play a game where I can explore!


You could wait for Enderal.

Enderal (to be released July 1-3 of 2016 - English version some weeks later) is a total conversion for TES V: Skyrim: a game modification that is set in its own world with its own landscape, lore and story. It offers an immersive open world, all for the player to explore, overhauled skill systems and gameplay mechanics and a dark, psychological storyline with believable characters.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
June 24 2016 12:06 GMT
#11650
I'm still really advocating for you people to stop using Nexus Mod Manager and get on Mod Organizer instead. Seriously. NMM mashes the game directory and makes removing mods a pain, while MO allows effortless removal due to virtual drive. Also, integrated LOOT.

The only downside being MO taking more hard drive space.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 24 2016 13:14 GMT
#11651
On June 24 2016 21:06 plated.rawr wrote:
I'm still really advocating for you people to stop using Nexus Mod Manager and get on Mod Organizer instead. Seriously. NMM mashes the game directory and makes removing mods a pain, while MO allows effortless removal due to virtual drive. Also, integrated LOOT.

The only downside being MO taking more hard drive space.


The effort and testing still needed is a bitch, no? Does the difference in NMM and MO really make that much of an improvement?
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Kenthros
Profile Joined August 2012
United States95 Posts
June 24 2016 13:36 GMT
#11652
[/QUOTE]

You could wait for Enderal.

Enderal (to be released July 1-3 of 2016 - English version some weeks later) is a total conversion for TES V: Skyrim: a game modification that is set in its own world with its own landscape, lore and story. It offers an immersive open world, all for the player to explore, overhauled skill systems and gameplay mechanics and a dark, psychological storyline with believable characters.
[/QUOTE]



Thanks for sharing this, all I have been following is skywind, but this one looks pretty sexy too.
Peace is a lie; there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
June 24 2016 14:36 GMT
#11653
On June 24 2016 22:14 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 21:06 plated.rawr wrote:
I'm still really advocating for you people to stop using Nexus Mod Manager and get on Mod Organizer instead. Seriously. NMM mashes the game directory and makes removing mods a pain, while MO allows effortless removal due to virtual drive. Also, integrated LOOT.

The only downside being MO taking more hard drive space.


The effort and testing still needed is a bitch, no? Does the difference in NMM and MO really make that much of an improvement?



Yes and yes. Modding Skyrim is still something you could run a course at university to teach to people and it'd be worth a few study points. It's complicated, annoying, bug ridden and the end result is many, many wasted hours for a game that will probably have increased CTD occurrence.


Still, if anyone wants to do it, do yourself a favor and ditch NMM and go Mod Organizer instead. The virtualization saves you *a lot of pain* when you try things out, reset and troubleshoot.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 15:53:12
June 24 2016 15:48 GMT
#11654
On June 24 2016 18:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote:
Just wait Three month for Skyrim remastered !!!

28th of October and you will not have the 4Gb limitation as before.

I'm just drooling not to have to configure FISS again to run warzone, civil war and sot at the same time.

No more fiddleing (or so i hope)


What 4GB limitation?

I'm just thinking about all the stuff I have to do to get Skyrim running remotely up to expectaitons of graphics and gameplay:

1. Nexus Mod Manager
2. BOSS/Loot
3. SKSE
4. Modifying the .ini files for sensitivity and various other settings
5. Installing mods, testing, replacing files or reading different settings installation paths if I want 1 part of a mod or want to remove another.

Makes my head spin. Is Fallout 4 any easier/different/less strenuous?


When you have 300mods like me. The 4Gb limitation can become a hassle really quick (SoT + Warzone + Warzone Assault is tricky to configure for them to run at the same time). So you need time to tune a lot of things. asicly it's like adding a point 6. to your list.

Fallout 4 is exactly the same thing. But there's no LOOT for FO4 as of a few month ago (maybe now) it's even worst to try out mods.

To be honest i have like 80 mods or so on FO4 and never had a crash or incompatibilities. NEver tweaked ini in FO4 buit i don't use ENB for FO4.

On June 24 2016 19:36 mTwRINE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 17:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
Has modding gotten any easier/simpler?

I went to play Skyrim again and the sensitivity was just too much to adjust and test (having to load the launcher then load my game).

Now BOSS is LOOT and Nexus Mod Manager has three install paths.



It really makes wanting to play these games or even Fallout 4 too much of a retooling chore to really want to play again, despite my urge to play a game where I can explore!


You could wait for Enderal.

Show nested quote +
Enderal (to be released July 1-3 of 2016 - English version some weeks later) is a total conversion for TES V: Skyrim: a game modification that is set in its own world with its own landscape, lore and story. It offers an immersive open world, all for the player to explore, overhauled skill systems and gameplay mechanics and a dark, psychological storyline with believable characters.


Could be interesting. If Skyrim remastered doesn't suit me i'll take a look. But i have faith. I want to have faith in a 64bit skyrim with a new engine. We will know soon enough.

MO is bettern than NMM but if you know what to install in what order NMM isn't that bad. Trial and error is much better with MO though you are right.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 24 2016 20:06 GMT
#11655
Is Fallout 4 any easier to mod or at least less convoluted?
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
June 24 2016 20:11 GMT
#11656
Basicly same engine, almost the same mod tools, so my guess is no. Been a while since I last played FO4 though, maybe they figured out something better than for skyrim/fo3/newvegas
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 20:23:16
June 24 2016 20:19 GMT
#11657
On June 24 2016 22:14 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 21:06 plated.rawr wrote:
I'm still really advocating for you people to stop using Nexus Mod Manager and get on Mod Organizer instead. Seriously. NMM mashes the game directory and makes removing mods a pain, while MO allows effortless removal due to virtual drive. Also, integrated LOOT.

The only downside being MO taking more hard drive space.


The effort and testing still needed is a bitch, no? Does the difference in NMM and MO really make that much of an improvement?

There'll always be incompatabilities and crashes, but that's just how mods work for Skyrim. People tend to manipulate a lot of the same core objects for different mods (areas, enemies, items, factions etc), and when one mod queries the object in question and expects a specific result, but gets something else due to another mod which changed the same object, stuff will crash.

What NMM does, is add the files in your Skyrim directory while overwriting what is needed. If you want to remove the mod after discovering an incompatability, you're kinda screwed, depending on what has been overwritten. The game directory has been permanently altered, and the ghost of the mod still lingers in file overwrites and object alterations, something which can come back and haunt you later due to "unexplainable" compatability mismatches and random crashes due to these roaming spirits. Long story short - removing a mod with NMM doesn't neccessarily remove all the changes the mod did to your Skyrim folder.

This is where MO makes it a lot simpler. MO doesn't directly alter your Skyrim folder. Instead of overwriting as NMM does, it instead creates a virtual duplicate of the Skyrim folder where it does all the alterations. After the client is closed and you're done with skyrim, the virtual game folder is cleared. If you wish to remove a mod, you simply uncheck it in the MO client - this denies it to get loaded the next time, but since the files of the mod weren't forcibly added to overwrite anything in your base Skyrim folder, there's no damage done. Removing mods becomes a lot less hazardous thanks to this. If you get conflicts or crashes, it's a lot easier to remove mods one by one through MO untill you find the culprit, as you won't have to reinstall every time a core file gets modified.

But yea, crashes happens.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 20:25:31
June 24 2016 20:25 GMT
#11658
is ESO tamriel good? its 50% off now.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
June 27 2016 19:52 GMT
#11659
Is the skyrim remastered just better graphics on the same game or are they adding anything to the actual game?
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 27 2016 21:11 GMT
#11660
On June 25 2016 05:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
is ESO tamriel good? its 50% off now.


It's the full MMO except the expansion packs with no sub cost. The gameplay is somwhere between Skyrim and Dragon Age Inquisition and not in a good way IMO. The voice acting and storyline are decent, but everything else is kinda shit IMO.
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