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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 15 2011 09:31 GMT
#5381
On November 15 2011 18:01 GizmoPT wrote:
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On November 15 2011 17:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
I really feel there's a lack of diversity in terms of animals and creatures. Maybe I'm not far enough in the game, but here's everything I recall:

(these all have snow variations)
Wolf
Skeezer/Rat
Troll
Mammoth
Rabbit
Fox
Giant
Elk
Bandits
Hunters
Army personnel
Skeletons.
Dragons
Walrus thingies

Did I forget anything? Have I not played the game enough? I'm level 17 and I've explored what I feel is a good portion of the map (nothing on the outer edges). Is it really not that diversified?


the dwarven robots(centurions), bears, crabs, horkers, saber cats, spriggans hmm think i saw some more cant remember now


Casters of all shapes and sizes, zombies (draugh or whatever), vampires (never seen one dunno what it looks like lol), werewolves, wolves, summons (atronaches etc.) theres plenty in the game to f**k about with and it can only get better with mods. I am struggling to comprehend how much stuff there is in the game lol. Ive not seen HALF of the things mentioned.

On November 15 2011 18:05 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
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On November 15 2011 17:29 Bagonad wrote:
I'm a level 36 mage/two-hand dude, and i've discovered just how exploitable this game is, i've made a dragonplate armor set from spamming 400 iron daggers, and leveled enchanting to 80, after doing this, i've enchanted 23% reduction of magicka cost of destruction spells on ring, necklace, chest and head, now i've reduced my mana cost by 92%, so it dosen't matter that i don't have the magicka regenration from mage robes (I could've taken an enchantment fortification potion or something and reduced destuction cost by 100%, however enchanting is so tedious that i can't be arsed to level it over 80)

I can spam fire bolts for 1 magicka and fireballs for 3 magicka, makking me able to "Stunlock" any opponent and kill them (The dragon armor set lets me survive the frequest one-shots with bows that i've grown to expect on master, this will get easier with heavy armor perks)

I've come up with a theory, that you could enchant alchemy fortification and then make potions to foritfy enchantment, and continue this cycle until you hit some sort of cap (Or not?)
Then you would create a gear specified for smithing, enchanting and alchemy to suppliment, with the smithing gear you'd be able to improve dragonplate armor to give you a ton of armor (Thinking 300+ for the entire set), combined with 50% more armor from perks, you would then enchant double enchantments (From enchanting 100 perk), you could reduce spell cost by 100% quite easily, and enchant your boots/ring (Not sure if you can enchant resistance to necklace) to give you 100% resistance against every spell type, you could swap out ring/Boots with different kind of resistances depending on the opponent in the worst case.

You'd basicly be a god, with free destruction spells, a huge amount of armor and full magic resistance, this is possible even without using the alchemy/enchant cycle.

I posted this about 20 pages back. And I don't feel bad about doing it because of how badly other casters and melee would rape me. I spam incinerate with 96% reduced cost and I can go oom. Also now that I know this I'm thinking about min/maxing a caster with perks, seeing how much bang I can get out of everything with being able to skip a bunch of points.

Also I have some 234% magicka regen, 51 fire frost lightning resist, and 118 extra magicka.


Beauty of this game is that you can do what you like, you dont HAVE to abuse it :D
Useless wet fish.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 09:37:19
November 15 2011 09:32 GMT
#5382
On November 15 2011 18:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:01 GizmoPT wrote:
On November 15 2011 17:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
I really feel there's a lack of diversity in terms of animals and creatures. Maybe I'm not far enough in the game, but here's everything I recall:

(these all have snow variations)
Wolf
Skeezer/Rat
Troll
Mammoth
Rabbit
Fox
Giant
Elk
Bandits
Hunters
Army personnel
Skeletons.
Dragons
Walrus thingies

Did I forget anything? Have I not played the game enough? I'm level 17 and I've explored what I feel is a good portion of the map (nothing on the outer edges). Is it really not that diversified?


the dwarven robots(centurions), bears, crabs, horkers, saber cats, spriggans hmm think i saw some more cant remember now


Horkers are the walrus thingies.

So not that much. I wanted to sorta feel like I'm hunting for Game, but it all feels sorta lacking.
there's a lot more non-hostile wildlife than there was in oblivion

the hostile wildlife though, is pretty much all the same culprits. only horkers are new so far that've seen, unless you want to count mammoths too.
On November 15 2011 18:31 Capped wrote:
Beauty of this game is that you can do what you like, you dont HAVE to abuse it :D

yeah i agree

hard mode oblivion essentially required you to break the game somehow in order to make any progress and given how many times i've been one-hit koed by a two handed hammer it seems that skyrim is comparable, but not as tedious

from how you describe it, it seems this time around instead of become virtually invincible and chip away at the enemies, you become a dps glass cannon instead

that's fine
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 15 2011 09:36 GMT
#5383
On November 15 2011 18:24 ZeromuS wrote:
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On November 15 2011 18:20 Deckkie wrote:
Should I join the imperial or the rebellion?


Imprial: Want to keep power in skyrim

Rebellion: lead by Nordolf Hitler.

You choose

(I am going to go empire if anything at all -- dark elf, and one game will be a nord warrior for sure for stormcloaks, then some imperial person idk)

Ive got many many years to enjoy this game and I will


Haha, Thanks man ^^
Always look on the bright side of life
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
November 15 2011 09:39 GMT
#5384
On November 15 2011 18:19 Velocirapture wrote:
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On November 15 2011 18:03 Cyro wrote:
On November 15 2011 18:00 Velocirapture wrote:
I just finished the main quest and have done a ton of the non menial (to me) side stuff. Over 100 locations found and cleared. Now I am just wondering if there is any super difficult end game stuff I could take a crack at. Once I realized (super early) that dual casted destruction staggers everything (even dragons) and staves are OP there has not been any challenge combat wise. Throw me a tell if you guys have encountered anything really hard.



Ive never been able to kill the dragons with destruction, second or third dragon in main story (kynesgrove?) i got like 15% of its health down and then ran out of magicka, and it doenst really regen fast at all in combat


I never used a weapon except to pot shot stunned enemies lol. The first 10 or so levels can be annoying if you find no gear but if you run off to do the winterhold quest asap you end up with a couple game changing mage items (hardly a spoiler as it is the mage college main quest).



What kind of items would those be?

please PM or leave in spoiler comment reply
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FrostFire626
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
November 15 2011 09:39 GMT
#5385
I think the diversity is reasonably good, especially considering that you can encounter 3 or more qualities of the same creature at any one time.

On a side note, anyone know of a big money sink besides buying houses? I'm at 18,000 gold and have absolutely nothing to spend it on.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
November 15 2011 09:39 GMT
#5386
I don't mind the variety in wildlife Im sure there will be a Martigen Monster similar mod which would add new textures/models for existing baddies and add new ones in, it seems like this game was bigger and more popular than oblivion which means more quality mods hopefully :D.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 15 2011 09:41 GMT
#5387
On November 15 2011 18:25 Zanno wrote:
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On November 15 2011 18:14 Floobie wrote:
Does sneak work with magic the same as it does with archery?

Can i cast magic at someone from a distance while sneaking and they wont find me?

no

there is however a perk to make spellcasting silent to everyone except you

either way one of the most important factors in sneaking is if there is light on you, and spells glow a lot (light sort of mattered in oblivion then became massively important as of fallout 3)
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On November 15 2011 18:10 frontliner2 wrote:
On November 14 2011 19:30 hysterial wrote:
On November 14 2011 19:17 frontliner2 wrote:
Honestly I've watched a few online review and all I can say is DAMN this game is a mess!!!!

Looks like a buggy joke. Animation is silly. Ragdoll is retarded.. just looks like a poorly designed game that way.

Just dropping my opinion here, I'll wait for D3 thank you


Yeah the animations/graphics are a little dated, the artwork is what makes the graphics amazing. The story is fantastic, the gameplay is amazing, yes there are a few bugs, but they don't detract from the game too much

This is no poorly designed, this is a game that took a SHIT LOAD OF TIME to make. Trust me this is a true role-playing game, there is no other modern-generation game that comes even remotely close to the scale of this game.


Haha, this is the last post in reply to my critique on buggyness and graphics/ragdoll what I saw in a demo video.

Obviously you all disagree with me That must mean I'm wrong and biased. I trust the TL userbase.

I might dig into it some deeper. And I wasn't trolling. I honestly think it looks messy and buggy (and weird...).
so you saw some youtube video of the 1/10000 times the game physics flip out

terrible pathing for monsters in rocky areas aside, i haven't seen any wacky shit at all yet


Buggy AI? A cave bear ran away from me only to circle around via another path 2 minutes later It was a super bear.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 15 2011 09:46 GMT
#5388
On November 15 2011 18:39 BlueBird. wrote:
I don't mind the variety in wildlife Im sure there will be a Martigen Monster similar mod which would add new textures/models for existing baddies and add new ones in, it seems like this game was bigger and more popular than oblivion which means more quality mods hopefully :D.


Oh god i hope so, i spent 5 hours in vanilla oblivion and dropped it.

I installed OOO / MMM and i played it for about 2-3 hours everyday for 2 months up untill skyrim. It made it so awesome.

Imagine what skyrim modders could do...OOO / MMM made the best of a bad situation, Skyrim is already fucking awesome that only really needs a few tweaks (bug / glitch fixes and stronger dragons imo) after that, they just...go to town on a masterpiece! :O
Useless wet fish.
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
November 15 2011 09:47 GMT
#5389
On November 15 2011 18:16 ZeromuS wrote:
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On November 15 2011 18:06 Gotmog wrote:
Btw, do you "lose" anything if you are using stuff like lockpick/restoration/sneak while you are building your char in completely other direction ? I mean, will it cap you so you are unable to level up that Destruction to the max like you were planning ?


No the way it works is there are skills and then there are perks.

Skill ranks make doing that thing a bit easier/more effective but perks is where all the real bonuses come from (and these perks are based on skill points from levelling up).

A perfect example is smithing. A 100 smithing level will let you improve any armour type and generally to be a very high level of improvement. However even if you can improve things it doesn't mean you can craft things. You need the skill perks to craft stuff like dragon armour or dwarven armour.

So you don't lose anything tangibly. However, skills that reach higher ranks provide more exp to your current level. So that means that if all your skills are at level 20 you will level slower than someone who has 2 skills at 100.

I have spent some 40 hours in game and only at level 20 almost. I spend a lot of time exploring and I have a number of skills at differing levels and have not farmed skills like smithy whereas other people have.

The issue with farming a non combat thing though is that while you are a higher level the combat level is low so you have a hard time fighting people in straight up fights.


Thx for the nice response
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Marke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden279 Posts
November 15 2011 09:49 GMT
#5390
hm... Somone said u could disenchant Arch-Mages robes... but i cannot. Makes me sad i really dont like the looks. but the stats. are there any better robes out there?
Det är inte lätt när det är svårt
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
November 15 2011 09:58 GMT
#5391
On November 15 2011 18:41 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:25 Zanno wrote:
On November 15 2011 18:14 Floobie wrote:
Does sneak work with magic the same as it does with archery?

Can i cast magic at someone from a distance while sneaking and they wont find me?

no

there is however a perk to make spellcasting silent to everyone except you

either way one of the most important factors in sneaking is if there is light on you, and spells glow a lot (light sort of mattered in oblivion then became massively important as of fallout 3)
On November 15 2011 18:10 frontliner2 wrote:
On November 14 2011 19:30 hysterial wrote:
On November 14 2011 19:17 frontliner2 wrote:
Honestly I've watched a few online review and all I can say is DAMN this game is a mess!!!!

Looks like a buggy joke. Animation is silly. Ragdoll is retarded.. just looks like a poorly designed game that way.

Just dropping my opinion here, I'll wait for D3 thank you


Yeah the animations/graphics are a little dated, the artwork is what makes the graphics amazing. The story is fantastic, the gameplay is amazing, yes there are a few bugs, but they don't detract from the game too much

This is no poorly designed, this is a game that took a SHIT LOAD OF TIME to make. Trust me this is a true role-playing game, there is no other modern-generation game that comes even remotely close to the scale of this game.


Haha, this is the last post in reply to my critique on buggyness and graphics/ragdoll what I saw in a demo video.

Obviously you all disagree with me That must mean I'm wrong and biased. I trust the TL userbase.

I might dig into it some deeper. And I wasn't trolling. I honestly think it looks messy and buggy (and weird...).
so you saw some youtube video of the 1/10000 times the game physics flip out

terrible pathing for monsters in rocky areas aside, i haven't seen any wacky shit at all yet


Buggy AI? A cave bear ran away from me only to circle around via another path 2 minutes later It was a super bear.

That's the joke of the game :_::
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Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
November 15 2011 10:04 GMT
#5392
On November 15 2011 18:25 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:14 Floobie wrote:
Does sneak work with magic the same as it does with archery?

Can i cast magic at someone from a distance while sneaking and they wont find me?

no

there is however a perk to make spellcasting silent to everyone except you

either way one of the most important factors in sneaking is if there is light on you, and spells glow a lot (light sort of mattered in oblivion then became massively important as of fallout 3)


Appreciate the information thanks.

Hm kind of changes my idea of making a sneaky mage that will do both the college quests and the thieves quests. Meh - i'll make it work.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 15 2011 10:09 GMT
#5393
Bah, why am I accumulating so many potions? Half my inventory weight is made up of potions now. Yet, I don't have the nerve to drop any potions, as I always feel that I might need them in the future. Heck, I had a battle with a frost dragon that forced me to use half my food and potions to take it down.
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d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 10:12:23
November 15 2011 10:10 GMT
#5394
On November 15 2011 18:46 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:39 BlueBird. wrote:
I don't mind the variety in wildlife Im sure there will be a Martigen Monster similar mod which would add new textures/models for existing baddies and add new ones in, it seems like this game was bigger and more popular than oblivion which means more quality mods hopefully :D.


Oh god i hope so, i spent 5 hours in vanilla oblivion and dropped it.

I installed OOO / MMM and i played it for about 2-3 hours everyday for 2 months up untill skyrim. It made it so awesome.

Imagine what skyrim modders could do...OOO / MMM made the best of a bad situation, Skyrim is already fucking awesome that only really needs a few tweaks (bug / glitch fixes and stronger dragons imo) after that, they just...go to town on a masterpiece! :O


What do you mean by Skyrim already being fucking awesome? What are the main differences between vanilla Oblivion and Skyrim? I too enjoyed Oblivion immensely after OOO / MMM.

So are you saying Skyrim doesn't require mods? It's playable now even if you thought Oblivion required the level scaling mods etc? Skyrim doesn't have massive scaling? Bandits don't start dropping dragonbone once you hit 20+ lvls?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#5395
How long do you need to rest to get well rested status?
How do you know you got well rested status, where does it say so?

How long does well rested status last?
merlin101
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland194 Posts
November 15 2011 10:23 GMT
#5396
On November 15 2011 19:20 -Archangel- wrote:
How long do you need to rest to get well rested status?
How do you know you got well rested status, where does it say so?

How long does well rested status last?

Sleep in a bed you own, so your house.
Check in magics, active effects.
8h
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 10:28:44
November 15 2011 10:28 GMT
#5397
On November 15 2011 19:23 merlin101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 19:20 -Archangel- wrote:
How long do you need to rest to get well rested status?
How do you know you got well rested status, where does it say so?

How long does well rested status last?

Sleep in a bed you own, so your house.
Check in magics, active effects.
8h

And if I sleep at the Inn I don't get well rested?

How long is ingame hour in real life?
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 10:37:31
November 15 2011 10:30 GMT
#5398
All scrolls you find have also a counterpart spell in the game?
no dude, the question
monsterDrakar
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria100 Posts
November 15 2011 10:35 GMT
#5399
On November 15 2011 12:59 Raisauce wrote:
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On November 15 2011 11:53 dranko wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On November 15 2011 11:24 dranko wrote:
Ok, just spamming Muffle will get you 100 illusion in an hour or so, anyone know of an equivalent spell for restoration?

You can do almost anything for alteration, I like detect life. You could try one of the ward spells, since it's a channel and drains magicka similar to other schools.


Tried it, didn't seem to give any XP when just spamming.



Try this. You know that one dungeon you go to for the main quest line with the fire spitting from the ground? Get your companion to stand on top of it and heal other or just heal yourself with high rank healing spells. Let me know if it works though, this is just theorycrafting lol.


For Restoration - put Equilibrium in one hand and Fast healing in the other. Then just get used to the timing of the cast. Went from 40 to 60 in about fifteen minutes.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
November 15 2011 10:38 GMT
#5400
On November 09 2011 00:53 RedMosquito wrote:
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On November 08 2011 19:20 Squeegy wrote:
On November 08 2011 11:39 BlueBird. wrote:
On November 08 2011 09:52 Squeegy wrote:
On November 08 2011 07:36 TuckFexas wrote:
On November 08 2011 07:31 True_Spike wrote:
On November 08 2011 07:19 TuckFexas wrote:
On November 08 2011 07:10 True_Spike wrote:
On November 08 2011 06:58 TuckFexas wrote:
HOLY SH*T

4:50-7:00

http://www.gameanyone.com/video/359375


Am I the only one worried with how easy it was to kill the dragon? The fight itself seemed anti-climatic, too. I mean, the dragon did 3 things in a loop, the player mindlessly slashed him whenever he came down (for no reason). Dragon fights seemed way more epic in DA:O, which was a turn-based game at heart.



He used ~7 potions and had a companion, plus hes only level 8. Id assume the dragons get harder as you level up


Because there is no cooldown on it and he had like 25 of them. Besides, how does that make it look better? It was a cakewalk to kill a dragon.


So? set a few restrictions for yourself, such as no companions, no potions and no shouts. Or wait for mods.


Let me guess, you're one of the NR20 BGH guys.



You can't go into Skyrim expecting the game to be tailor made to your personal wonderful way of playing. The game is made for a general audience, what you can go into Skyrim expecting to be able to mod it, or use console commands, or to play with restrictions you put upon yourself(some people are going to draw their own map -_-), etc. That's why Bethesda puts out the modding tools etc, so you can play the way you want. You want a challenge, well then make it challenging, you want a cakewalk, put it on easy and give yourself a sword that 1 shots everyone. Who cares, since its a single player experience.


I think the person who has to cut out features and items from the game to make it challenging might care. If Bethesda wasn't so worthless they'd come up with a solution. You know, like a working difficulty slider. But why do that when you can mod stuff in! In fact, why have dragons either, when you can mod them in! Or even better, I can just close my eyes everytime I fight a rat and pretend it's a dragon. When you play it like that it's made for an even wider audience!



Wow i can tell neither of you have actually played an elder scrolls game, atleast beyond the first 30 minutes. Theyre extremely complex and absorbing but can be played in a simple way by a casual fan. Thats whats great about the game. You can do whatever you want and play it how you want. Its made for casual fans and hardcore fans at the same time. And yes there is a difficulty slider by the way.

Also why the knock on single player games? Not everyone wants to play multiplayer games all the time or wow with nerds messaging you and annoying the crap out of you. Elderscrolls is about the experience and the immersion into the game. Its not about competing or socializing with people its about enjoying a fantastic game. Sorry for those who cant enjoy that.


I played Daggerfall like there was no tomorrow back in the day. I was a fan of the series then. Morrowind was good too. But then came Oblivion and Fallout 3. Both were utter crap. So no, you actually can't tell anything.

Why not? Also what does it being a single-player game have to do with anything? I too like my RPGs being offline.
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