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famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 06:39:41
November 28 2010 06:24 GMT
#1
Just like the titles says, i was wondering what games are good, the only one i've played is dragon origin and i didn't think that game was so great.

woops, i forgot to include PC GAMES ONLY.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 28 2010 06:30 GMT
#2
Why not?

famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
November 28 2010 06:33 GMT
#3
mainly because i felt the action/fighting was a bit too slow, casting took a while and even attacking with the sword took forever to kill somebody.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
November 28 2010 06:33 GMT
#4
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Khelz
Profile Joined August 2010
106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 06:37:58
November 28 2010 06:34 GMT
#5
Final Fantasy VII on PS is a must imo. (Provided you don't mind turn based combat) If you do like this one you'd probably want to explore the series in general.

Edit: lol jk, if Dragons Age was too slow then I doubt you'll enjoy the series.

Try the Kingdom Hearts series. Don't let the Disney logo turn you away, it's actually got a fairly deep and mature storyline to it. The combat is also very fast and furious in a way.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 28 2010 06:34 GMT
#6
fallout 3 is pretty good rpg. It is a different from clasic rpgs but the atmosphere is really good, you get sucked in the game really fast.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
November 28 2010 06:38 GMT
#7
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
November 28 2010 06:40 GMT
#8
khelz, kingdom hearts was amazing. i forgot to mention i was looking for pc games only. thanks for your input though.
Loki_rAtM
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany17 Posts
November 28 2010 06:42 GMT
#9
Most of the Bioware RPGs are really good, like Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, Neverwinter Nights,etc. Then there's the Fallout series, especially Fallout 3 and New Vegas. CD-Projects The Witcher is a good call as well, if you like a more mature kind of fantasy roleplaying game.
If you don't mind old school graphics you should play Planescape Torment, cause the story is amazing.
And last but not least I recommend Vampire - The Masquerade : Bloodlines, with the latest fan patch!
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Khelz
Profile Joined August 2010
106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 06:48:26
November 28 2010 06:45 GMT
#10
Definitely try Diablo I & II, I also enjoyed the original Fable: The Lost Chapters and can't wait to get the third in the series when finally released on pc >_<

I also found the Overlord series enjoyable. Not really RPGs exactly, more like adventure games with slight customization options but the crude and dark humor involved made it worth it for me.
Have a great day!
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 28 2010 06:51 GMT
#11
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.


Yeah, OP, you'll probably dislike the combat of most of these RPGs but they have some good stories.

Games like The Witcher and Mass Effect are decent action heavy games with fast combat.
TheOvermind77
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States923 Posts
November 28 2010 06:53 GMT
#12
PC Real time RPGs:

Torchlight
Prettymuch an affordable, enjoyable Diablo II clone. Extremely fun and a good time killer.

Titan Quest
A good, non-life dominating multiplayer RPG, similar to Torchlight except you can bring friends. Older game but still good graphics.

PC Turn-based RPGs:

Sad story. Not many good ones any more. I have none to recommend.
Most of the recent Final Fantasies have been very disappointing. Definitely steer clear of those. Latest one has a story that is painfully, painfully childish.

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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 28 2010 06:53 GMT
#13
Oblivion + Mods
Morrowind
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Prinny-tai
Profile Joined November 2010
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 06:55:56
November 28 2010 06:54 GMT
#14
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.


These are some excellent suggestions. I'd like to ad that you can pick up BG1(and 2?) and FO1 and 2 from Good Ol Games. Planescape too I think. In addition I'd recommend TES II as well, it's available for free from Bethesda and for a newer game The Witcher.

On November 28 2010 15:51 Billy_ wrote:

Yeah, OP, you'll probably dislike the combat of most of these RPGs but they have some good stories.


I'd disagree, I love all those games and found DA:O to have boring combat as well. Most people would agree with that statement. It lacks the strategic depth that a slower turn based game should provide.
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famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
November 28 2010 06:57 GMT
#15
have any of you tried the new f14 series? i've heard alot of negative things about it but would like an opinion from a fellow TL.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
November 28 2010 07:01 GMT
#16
On November 28 2010 15:57 famz wrote:
have any of you tried the new f14 series? i've heard alot of negative things about it but would like an opinion from a fellow TL.


i had a friend who bought it, trust him if you will but he said that the game was really freaking confusing and he had no idea wtf he was doing. he quit after like 2 days lol.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 28 2010 07:03 GMT
#17
On November 28 2010 15:54 Prinny-tai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.


These are some excellent suggestions. I'd like to ad that you can pick up BG1(and 2?) and FO1 and 2 from Good Ol Games. Planescape too I think. In addition I'd recommend TES II as well, it's available for free from Bethesda and for a newer game The Witcher.

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 15:51 Billy_ wrote:

Yeah, OP, you'll probably dislike the combat of most of these RPGs but they have some good stories.


I'd disagree, I love all those games and found DA:O to have boring combat as well. Most people would agree with that statement. It lacks the strategic depth that a slower turn based game should provide.


PS:T was shallower than DAO, KotOR is about as shallow as they get before turning into an action game, Morrowind is different, I've never played Might and Magic. BGII had a lot more depth than DAO, though I don't know about the original I remember having difficulty with BGI but I was young at the time and it was my first RPG ever, so I don't know how I'd classify it. I don't remember FO I and II clearly enough to decide.
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
November 28 2010 07:14 GMT
#18
I highly recommend Deathspank.
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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
November 28 2010 07:19 GMT
#19
The Witcher is a pretty good action rpg for the pc. Hell, it may even go on sale on Steam again.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
November 28 2010 07:24 GMT
#20
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.


A strong list. I'd add Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura if you want a true RPG experience. These are pretty hardcore RPG games though and not for everyone. The fact that you didn't like Dragon Age is a good sign though as it's such a shallow crap game
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Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
November 28 2010 07:29 GMT
#21
For turn-based RPG check out King's Bounty, kind of like HOMM
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 28 2010 07:41 GMT
#22
The Ys series, as well as the Legend of Heroes series if they're translated (not sure).
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
November 28 2010 07:50 GMT
#23
Gothic 1 and 2 - nice atmosphere, fast fights
ignore part 3 and 4. they are bullshit
Xavv
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada168 Posts
November 28 2010 08:09 GMT
#24
Xenogears.

Do it.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:18:34
November 28 2010 08:18 GMT
#25
Fable 1, amazing game.
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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 28 2010 08:25 GMT
#26
On November 28 2010 15:42 Loki_rAtM wrote:Then there's the Fallout series, especially Fallout 3 and New Vegas.


Argh ... wrong, so wrong. FO1/2 are superior to FO3 and New Vegas in every way imaginable, maybe excluding the graphics (but those did, in my opinion, more harm than good in the latter games).
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 28 2010 08:34 GMT
#27
On November 28 2010 17:25 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 15:42 Loki_rAtM wrote:Then there's the Fallout series, especially Fallout 3 and New Vegas.


Argh ... wrong, so wrong. FO1/2 are superior to FO3 and New Vegas in every way imaginable, maybe excluding the graphics (but those did, in my opinion, more harm than good in the latter games).


Hey Shockk, I'm looking for my father, a middle aged man, maybe you've seen him?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 28 2010 08:44 GMT
#28
You only want action RPGs? IMO, none of them are any good, I have played most of the ones in this thread and found them to generally be clunky, shallow, and easy. Oblivion and Baldur's Gate are probably your best bets in that area.

But honestly, if you want a great action RPG experience, I think you should just go for an MMO. LotRO and D&DO are both free to play now, and there are plenty of other F2P MMO's that have way better action and story than any single player titles.
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Ebert
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada24 Posts
November 28 2010 08:46 GMT
#29
Bioshock
Wolfsinus
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
November 28 2010 08:50 GMT
#30
If emulators count as PC games then:
Earthbound (My favorite RPG of all time)
Final Fantasy 1

As for newer stuff:
Oblivion
Fable (A close second)
Fallout 3 (a lot like Oblivion in my opinion, due to them both being made by Bethesda)
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
November 28 2010 09:22 GMT
#31
On November 28 2010 17:50 Wolfsinus wrote:
Fallout 3 (a lot like Oblivion in my opinion, due to them both being made by Bethesda)


And both being fail.
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
November 28 2010 09:29 GMT
#32
Fallout 1 and 2


then New Vegas, i'd recommend u to skip 3.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 28 2010 09:30 GMT
#33
Do "SNES Games that you can play on an Emulator on your PC" count as PC games?

If so, Final Fantasy 4, 6, and Chrono Trigger.
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luckySe7en
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
148 Posts
November 28 2010 09:35 GMT
#34
On November 28 2010 15:45 Khelz wrote:
Definitely try Diablo I & II, I also enjoyed the original Fable: The Lost Chapters and can't wait to get the third in the series when finally released on pc >_<

I also found the Overlord series enjoyable. Not really RPGs exactly, more like adventure games with slight customization options but the crude and dark humor involved made it worth it for me.


i have it currently for 360. love it very much =)
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
November 28 2010 09:43 GMT
#35
On November 28 2010 17:34 Billy_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 17:25 Shockk wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:42 Loki_rAtM wrote:Then there's the Fallout series, especially Fallout 3 and New Vegas.


Argh ... wrong, so wrong. FO1/2 are superior to FO3 and New Vegas in every way imaginable, maybe excluding the graphics (but those did, in my opinion, more harm than good in the latter games).


Hey Shockk, I'm looking for my father, a middle aged man, maybe you've seen him?


I smell troll.

If you can bear with the combat system, definetely go pick up Planescape Torment on GOG right now. It has an amazing story.

FO:NV is awesome if you like a lot of branching off. The main story isn't as long as some of the other games here, but you have an incredible amount of stuff to do beside the main quest.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 10:08:58
November 28 2010 10:02 GMT
#36
When i see people talking of Diablo in a thread about "good RPG" it makes me really depressed. Diablo is an Hack'n'Slash so use the dumb and fake "action RPG" name if you want but it is not an RPG.

Ok that said:

- Planescape Torment
- Arcanum
- BG I& II
- Fallout I & II
- Deus Ex. Yea even if it looks like an FPS there is 2000000x more roleplay in this game than in Diablo I + II combined.
^
Those are kinda oldschool so don't expect awesome Gfx.

I have heard some great things about Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines and the Witcher but i haven't played those games yet.


edit: Also Oblivion is terrible, most overrated game of all time with Bioshock.
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Larrie
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom46 Posts
November 28 2010 10:06 GMT
#37
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.



Any idea where I can get Might and Magic VII.

I remember having it when i was around 12. THAT GAME WAS BALLER.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
November 28 2010 10:07 GMT
#38
On November 28 2010 17:18 MuffinDude wrote:
Fable 1, amazing game.

This, and both Mass Effect games.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 28 2010 10:07 GMT
#39
Chrono Trigger
Planescape Torment
KOTOR
Final Fantasy V (since you're into deep combat)

You probably won't like arcanum, it features brutal, gritty combat... with the interface.
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xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
November 28 2010 10:07 GMT
#40
Oblivion and (if you can stand out-dated graphics and broken combat systems), Morrowind.

In my opinion, morrowind is the single greatest vanilla RPG ever created, and it's expansions just make it that much greater. Though it's graphics are kind of dated, there ARE graphic overhauls available, which makes exploring Morrowind a lot like exploring Oblivion, but even better with a much more expansive map and such diverse terrain throughout. Honestly a must-have if you are into RPGs.

Oblivion is without a doubt the most modded RPG I have come across. Though vanilla oblivion may tend to get boring after exploring etc, Oblivion has so many mods available that it can be expanded into pretty much completely new games. Stealth and Combat overhauls, Map additions, Quest Lines are all available and are created very well. One way or another, Oblivion is going to appeal to you.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
November 28 2010 10:14 GMT
#41
Y's - youtube it ... it's great
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
November 28 2010 10:21 GMT
#42
-Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
-Morrowind is really old and i think it will just enoy you but the story is GREAT !
-Oblivion is the best choice i think its still great game i think i was playing it so young and i didnt know English so it was doom... so i stopped playing it, but im still thinking of going back and play it
-The Wicher is just AWESOME ! play it
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 10:24:08
November 28 2010 10:21 GMT
#43
Will people please stop recommending Oblivion as a "good RPG"? It's just another example of the gaming press hyping a game that can't live up to the promises and expectations. And if you have to resort to mods to make a game worth playing, that's never a good sign.

This game was terrible. It was full of bugs, the mechanics were horrible, the voice acting was a nightmare and the story was one huge failure. There's one line from a Metacritic user review I'd like to quote:

This was a really great engine for an Role-playing game, I just wish there'd been a roleplaying game to play.
ReactoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden72 Posts
November 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#44
Personally I'm a sucker for space games so I've enjoyed Mass Effect 1 & 2 immensely. If you're gonna play 'em a tip is to go with the female char because the voice acting is better.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
November 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#45
On November 28 2010 19:21 Shockk wrote:
Will people please stop recommending Oblivion as a "good RPG"? It's just another example of the gaming press hyping a game that can't live up to the promises and expectations. And if you have to resort to mods to make a game worth playing, that's never a good sign.

This game was terrible. It was full of bugs, the mechanics were horrible, the voice acting was a nightmare and the story was one huge failure. There's one line from a Metacritic user review I'd like to quote:

Show nested quote +
This was a really great engine for an Role-playing game, I just wish there'd been a roleplaying game to play.

Oblivion is a game that needs mods to make it really great... this is why I use 9GB of mods on my oblivion to fix multiple bugs, texture issues, the fast travel thing, difficulty, items, etc, etc, etc... to make the game great... sadly its 9GB of mods for a game that's not even 9GB big so ya...
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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 10:40:49
November 28 2010 10:31 GMT
#46
On November 28 2010 19:27 Insanious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 19:21 Shockk wrote:
Will people please stop recommending Oblivion as a "good RPG"? It's just another example of the gaming press hyping a game that can't live up to the promises and expectations. And if you have to resort to mods to make a game worth playing, that's never a good sign.

This game was terrible. It was full of bugs, the mechanics were horrible, the voice acting was a nightmare and the story was one huge failure. There's one line from a Metacritic user review I'd like to quote:

This was a really great engine for an Role-playing game, I just wish there'd been a roleplaying game to play.

Oblivion is a game that needs mods to make it really great... this is why I use 9GB of mods on my oblivion to fix multiple bugs, texture issues, the fast travel thing, difficulty, items, etc, etc, etc... to make the game great... sadly its 9GB of mods for a game that's not even 9GB big so ya...


Ehh hating on Oblivion is just the thing to do for infinity engine snobs anyways, even vanilla(un-modded) Oblivion is certainly better than the vast majority of rpgs that have been released in the past 5/6 years or so. Honestly Dragon Age came out guys. Get with the program there's a new big budget rpg to hate on for being overhyped and kinda average(In my opinion significantly worse than Oblivion).
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 10:51:55
November 28 2010 10:47 GMT
#47
How bad could Oblivion be? I've spent hundreds of hours on Neverwinter Night mods and that's another game which is pretty bad without mods, excluding Hordes of the Underdark and Mask of the Betrayer expansions which were decent and great.

DAO wasn't very good. Combat system and characters were good, but the mostly boring combat encounters and bland story knocks it down to an average. I might be in the minority, but I actually consider ME2 to be a better shooter than DAO was an RPG, so I'm kind of glad about the way Bioware is going with Dragon Effect.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 28 2010 10:51 GMT
#48
"infinity engine snobs"? Seriously?

There's a reason people are recommending the Baldurs Gate series and other 10+ year old games despite their age. It might have to do with how awesome these were and still are compared to all newer and recent releases.
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
November 28 2010 10:55 GMT
#49
On November 28 2010 19:02 Boblion wrote:
When i see people talking of Diablo in a thread about "good RPG" it makes me really depressed. Diablo is an Hack'n'Slash so use the dumb and fake "action RPG" name if you want but it is not an RPG.

Ok that said:

- Planescape Torment
- Arcanum
- BG I& II
- Fallout I & II
- Deus Ex. Yea even if it looks like an FPS there is 2000000x more roleplay in this game than in Diablo I + II combined.
^
Those are kinda oldschool so don't expect awesome Gfx.

I have heard some great things about Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines and the Witcher but i haven't played those games yet.


edit: Also Oblivion is terrible, most overrated game of all time with Bioshock.

This is pretty much the same list I'd compile, including both Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines and the Witcher.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
November 28 2010 11:00 GMT
#50
Diablo 1 & 2 are the only ones i can think of for PC, if you got a PS2 i strongly recommend Final Fantasy VII. Long and fun, feels like a MMORPG but single player.
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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
November 28 2010 11:01 GMT
#51
On November 28 2010 19:51 Shockk wrote:
"infinity engine snobs"? Seriously?

There's a reason people are recommending the Baldurs Gate series and other 10+ year old games despite their age. It might have to do with how awesome these were and still are compared to all newer and recent releases.


Nobody is saying Baldur's gate 2 is bad, it's the pinnacle of the genre. I'm tired of people who figure just because modern rpgs may not deliver an equally compelling experience they aren't worth checking out for people who are interested in the genre. Oblivion is just a decent game on its own merits and has extensive enough mod support to make it into an very deep experience.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 13:41:22
November 28 2010 13:39 GMT
#52
On November 28 2010 20:01 DminusTerran wrote:
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On November 28 2010 19:51 Shockk wrote:
"infinity engine snobs"? Seriously?

There's a reason people are recommending the Baldurs Gate series and other 10+ year old games despite their age. It might have to do with how awesome these were and still are compared to all newer and recent releases.


Nobody is saying Baldur's gate 2 is bad, it's the pinnacle of the genre. I'm tired of people who figure just because modern rpgs may not deliver an equally compelling experience they aren't worth checking out for people who are interested in the genre. Oblivion is just a decent game on its own merits and has extensive enough mod support to make it into an very deep experience.


It is becoming very hard to find ANY good games this days, not just RPGs. It looks like all the companies care about now is sell-factor and how much more graphically advanced their game is compared to the competition or how realistic does shit look there.
No one ever gives notice to details like story, coherency, atmosphere and overall experience any more.
I don't know about you, but I can't recall any recent game where I would actually feel immersed in and compelled to play despite literally falling asleep at the keyboard.
When I first got Morrowind on my hands I would play it 16hrs/day for 2 months straight and wouldn't get bored with it. Even now I like to launch it from time to time to re-live some of the fond memories I have about this game.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 28 2010 13:48 GMT
#53
On November 28 2010 19:21 NIIINO wrote:

-The Wicher is just AWESOME ! play it


really dont understand what people like about that game.

k i only played it like 2 hours but i really couldnt stand it anymore after that.

the combat is plain retarded. its like the guy that does the stupid flashy moves in that indiana jones movie that simply gets shot. just even more stupid.

tons of stupid looking repeating attacks that try so hard to be cool and get controlled by clicking once evry few seconds. the terrible implementation of those rock paper scissor styles... b rah..

and incredibly cheesy characters, feeling and setup.



there are so many great rpgs out there i dont see why anyone would waste his time on this game.
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 13:54:45
November 28 2010 13:53 GMT
#54
On November 28 2010 19:31 DminusTerran wrote:
Ehh hating on Oblivion is just the thing to do for infinity engine snobs anyways, even vanilla(un-modded) Oblivion is certainly better than the vast majority of rpgs that have been released in the past 5/6 years or so. Honestly Dragon Age came out guys. Get with the program there's a new big budget rpg to hate on for being overhyped and kinda average(In my opinion significantly worse than Oblivion).

Oblivion had some nice things(like the Dark Brotherhood-quests along with a few other) but it had fundamental flaws in gamedesign and story. That level-offset is the worst feature I've ever seen in any game.

I'm really sad nobody of you mentioned the beauty that Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines is.
It's nearly bugfree with the latest patches and such a well crafted experience on every level. An enjoyable storyline, very nice balance between the different ways to play an RPG(fighter/mage/sneaky char/diplomatic char etc) because they are all viable and a different experience. The npc's are lovely(especially Jack!), gameplay is enjoyable, the different endings are great. The atmosphere is amazing.
It's a true masterpiece.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 14:03:25
November 28 2010 13:54 GMT
#55
On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:

PS:T was shallower than DAO


Excuse me? How so?

I'm thinking that + Show Spoiler +
an immortal amnesiac's quest for his own identity and mortality
has a lot more meat on it than yet another + Show Spoiler +
orcish invasion that must be stopped by killing the big bad boss.


My own recommendation - other than the many great titles already mentioned - is the 2001 RPG Anachronox. It has a very different sci-fi setting that are still conveyed beautyfully by the dated graphics. Just make sure to patch it - it's pretty buggy out of the box.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 14:10:07
November 28 2010 14:06 GMT
#56
On November 28 2010 22:54 beef42 wrote:
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On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:

PS:T was shallower than DAO


Excuse me? How so?

I'm thinking that + Show Spoiler +
an immortal amnesiac's quest for his own identity and mortality
has a lot more meat on it than yet another + Show Spoiler +
orcish invasion that must be stopped by killing the big bad boss.


My own recommendation - other than the many great titles already mentioned - is the 2001 RPG Anachronox. It has a very different sci-fi setting that are still conveyed beautyfully by the dated graphics. Just make sure to patch it - it's pretty buggy out of the box.


He's probably referring to the combat. PS:T was more of a really good visual novel/choose your own adventure than a game.

Someone mentioned Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and Arcanum, those are really fantastic games, BUT if you get them, research what patches you need for it. Both of those can be very buggy.

EDIT: But, yeah. Planescape: Torment and Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer ties for best story. Baldur's Gate I, II, and expansion are the best when you throw combat into the mix.
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 28 2010 14:10 GMT
#57
Oh. In terms of combat, fan-patched Temple of Elemental Evil takes the cake for me. That game is quite difficult with D&D twinking knowledge, and nigh impossible without.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 14:19:12
November 28 2010 14:12 GMT
#58
On November 28 2010 17:25 Shockk wrote:
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On November 28 2010 15:42 Loki_rAtM wrote:Then there's the Fallout series, especially Fallout 3 and New Vegas.


Argh ... wrong, so wrong. FO1/2 are superior to FO3 and New Vegas in every way imaginable, maybe excluding the graphics (but those did, in my opinion, more harm than good in the latter games).


Fallout 3 indeed sucked, but New Vegas is much better. I would even go as far as to say that if you get rid of the nostalgia glasses, New Vegas is almost as good as the original Fallouts, and, unlike F3, it was actually made by the guys who made the original games.

Also, no matter how many times I installed and tried it, I could never get into Morrowind. I have no idea why, but the game just seemed so bloody boring. Although I know people who played it for months straight.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 28 2010 14:13 GMT
#59
On November 28 2010 22:54 beef42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:

PS:T was shallower than DAO


Excuse me? How so?

I'm thinking that + Show Spoiler +
an immortal amnesiac's quest for his own identity and mortality
has a lot more meat on it than yet another + Show Spoiler +
orcish invasion that must be stopped by killing the big bad boss.


My own recommendation - other than the many great titles already mentioned - is the 2001 RPG Anachronox. It has a very different sci-fi setting that are still conveyed beautyfully by the dated graphics. Just make sure to patch it - it's pretty buggy out of the box.


Gameplay. Read the context. Total of three classes, not a whole lot of spells to choose from, no abilities, invincibility and unlimited use of raise dead makes a person feel extremely unmotivated to ponder strategy. Fortunately the player statistics and exploration were boh extremely relevant to the games progression, so you could technically call that a gameplay mechanic which the PST did very well at. It's the rest of the gameplay that kind of lets it down, but I have seen much worse gameplay than what was in PST.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 28 2010 14:14 GMT
#60
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands You'll need probably need dosbox though.
There is a 'Let's Play' about it on youtube
Do check it out.
FBH #1!
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 28 2010 14:17 GMT
#61
On November 28 2010 23:13 Billy_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 22:54 beef42 wrote:
On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:

PS:T was shallower than DAO


Excuse me? How so?

I'm thinking that + Show Spoiler +
an immortal amnesiac's quest for his own identity and mortality
has a lot more meat on it than yet another + Show Spoiler +
orcish invasion that must be stopped by killing the big bad boss.


My own recommendation - other than the many great titles already mentioned - is the 2001 RPG Anachronox. It has a very different sci-fi setting that are still conveyed beautyfully by the dated graphics. Just make sure to patch it - it's pretty buggy out of the box.


Gameplay. Read the context. Total of three classes, not a whole lot of spells to choose from, no abilities, invincibility and unlimited use of raise dead makes a person feel extremely unmotivated to ponder strategy. Fortunately the player statistics and exploration were boh extremely relevant to the games progression, so you could technically call that a gameplay mechanic which the PST did very well at. It's the rest of the gameplay that kind of lets it down, but I have seen much worse gameplay than what was in PST.


Yeah I completely agree with you on that, though I remember the Curst Prison as a pretty weird spike in combat difficulty. You couldn't ignore combat prowess entirely, only most of the time.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
November 28 2010 14:19 GMT
#62
O yeah, there is a PC version of Final Fantasy 7, which is the best RPG.
Wake up Mr. B!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 28 2010 14:19 GMT
#63
On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:
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On November 28 2010 15:54 Prinny-tai wrote:
On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).

Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department.


These are some excellent suggestions. I'd like to ad that you can pick up BG1(and 2?) and FO1 and 2 from Good Ol Games. Planescape too I think. In addition I'd recommend TES II as well, it's available for free from Bethesda and for a newer game The Witcher.

On November 28 2010 15:51 Billy_ wrote:

Yeah, OP, you'll probably dislike the combat of most of these RPGs but they have some good stories.


I'd disagree, I love all those games and found DA:O to have boring combat as well. Most people would agree with that statement. It lacks the strategic depth that a slower turn based game should provide.


PS:T was shallower than DAO, KotOR is about as shallow as they get before turning into an action game, Morrowind is different, I've never played Might and Magic. BGII had a lot more depth than DAO, though I don't know about the original I remember having difficulty with BGI but I was young at the time and it was my first RPG ever, so I don't know how I'd classify it. I don't remember FO I and II clearly enough to decide.

PS:T had an awesome plot and pretty solid character interaction, but it was pretty straight-forward. There wasn't a whole lot of character choices or side-plots, but it is definitely solid. Combat is more simplistic, too, which might appeal to some people unfamiliar with the genre.

I hated Oblivion. There never seemed to be much of a plot and the Oblivion areas all looked identical. It was too sandboxy with almost no direction at all.

BG2 is somewhere between Oblivion and PS:T (much more of the PS:T style) and still a pretty solid game if you use the engine mods.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
November 28 2010 14:46 GMT
#64
infinity engine still looks great , especially with the widescreen mods
no annoying camera angle issue like with most 3D RPGs
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slith
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 14:52:28
November 28 2010 14:48 GMT
#65
System Shock 1 & 2 (1st Person)
Deus Ex (1st Person)
Fallout 1 & 2 (3 is also good, but you have to spend a week finding the right mods to make it playable, like making Deathclaws actually dangerous and bullets able to hurt you and put everything back into canon )
Baldurs Gate
Planescape Torment
Gothic 1 & 2
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Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
November 28 2010 14:54 GMT
#66
Anachronox
dreamfall: the longest journey
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 28 2010 14:58 GMT
#67
On November 28 2010 23:48 slith wrote:
System Shock 1 & 2 (1st Person)
Deus Ex (1st Person)
Fallout 1 & 2 (3 is also good, but you have to spend a week finding the right mods to make it playable, like making Deathclaws actually dangerous and bullets able to hurt you and put everything back into canon )
Baldurs Gate
Planescape Torment
Gothic 1 & 2


system shock isnt exactly a rpg. but ss2 is def one of the best games ive ever played
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
November 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#68
The Witcher is a very good game and has a sequel coming out in the first half of 2011. Highly recommended if you are looking for a more modern RPG.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
November 28 2010 15:21 GMT
#69
Recettear! Once you get past the cutesy anime bullshit, the game's very fun. It's an adventure-RPG though, so if you want freeroaming, this isn't for you.

Oblivion and Morrowind are great games. Morrowind has a lot more interesting setting and story, plus the dialogue is better (thank god for little voice-acting), while Oblivion is more open. Of course, if you want real quality and don't mind 1994-era graphics, you'll get Daggerfall and dosbox from the elder scrolls site - it's free, and it's awesome!

Neverwinter Nights 2 - well, it gets a bit hack and slashy after a while (as do all Dungeons and Dragons games), but the game's still pretty good. I'm not a big fan of multi-character parties, but if you can stand it, it's definately more fast-paced than DA:O and the older DND games.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 28 2010 15:46 GMT
#70
Knights of the Old Republic

If you want to get The Sith Lords along with it.....I'd caution you that the game is crazily incomplete. Still a good game while it lasts though.
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Hemling
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden93 Posts
November 28 2010 15:56 GMT
#71
since you like starcraft and the reason you didnt like dragon age was because it was too slow i'd recommend mass effect 2, awesome TPS rpg with a better tempo and gameplay then ME1, however altough you dont play the same character as the first game its a continuation of the story... but i think ME2 will let you catch up on what happened in the previous game anyway

gameplay video under the spoilertag
+ Show Spoiler +
gameplay videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uC00msnuR4&feature=related


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famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
November 28 2010 17:03 GMT
#72
Thank you everyone for all the great recommendations! after doing a bunch of research on all the games everyone has mentioned, i decided to purchase mass effect 1, fall out new vegas, and oblivion, i'm taking a gamble with oblivion only because i like the fact you can travel ANYWHERE and do what you please. keep the recommendations coming!
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
November 28 2010 17:10 GMT
#73
final fantasy 1-10
chrono trigger
chrono cross
baldur's gate 2 shadows of amn
planescape torment
fallout 1/2
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
November 28 2010 17:33 GMT
#74
GOG.com is a really good place to find some games cited in this thread, like Fallout 1 & 2 and Planescape. AND Baldur's Gate
Born to fast expand
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 28 2010 17:33 GMT
#75
Someone mentionned Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines and I would as well, this game is just so good.
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dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
November 28 2010 17:43 GMT
#76
I know I will probably catch a lot of flack for saying this, but honestly, after the latest patch, I'm going to say World of Warcraft is probably one of the greatest RPG's of all time. It is so much fun to play the game and immerse yourself in the world Blizzard has created.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
November 28 2010 17:47 GMT
#77
You can't go wrong with Oblivion...I love that game. Although you should get the expansion The Shivering Isles after playing it for a while, because the expansion adds good value to the game. Oh yeah...did I see Daggerfall mentioned? Besides the crappy graphics, it was a fantastic game to play THIS year lol.

I also second Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic 1 and 2, both very great games.

And well DA:O wasn't bad for me at all, I enjoyed it very much though.

You should definitely try the Final Fantasy series, especially 4 and 7.

Diablo I and II
Titan Quest
Mass Effect 1 and 2

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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 28 2010 17:53 GMT
#78
On November 29 2010 02:03 famz wrote:
Thank you everyone for all the great recommendations! after doing a bunch of research on all the games everyone has mentioned, i decided to purchase mass effect 1, fall out new vegas, and oblivion, i'm taking a gamble with oblivion only because i like the fact you can travel ANYWHERE and do what you please. keep the recommendations coming!


Have fun with your new games. Opinions on Oblivion vary, but you can't do too much wrong with ME1 and New Vegas. Since you seem to enjoy more action-themed RPGs, those are a good choice.

On November 29 2010 02:43 dANiELcanuck wrote:
I know I will probably catch a lot of flack for saying this, but honestly, after the latest patch, I'm going to say World of Warcraft is probably one of the greatest RPG's of all time. It is so much fun to play the game and immerse yourself in the world Blizzard has created.


No, absolutely not. It all depends on how you choose to play it, and if your goal isn't to reach the maximum level in the shortest time possible and to farm items 24/7, WoW can be an awesome experience.
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
November 28 2010 17:55 GMT
#79
Breath of Fire 3 and 4!
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
November 28 2010 18:13 GMT
#80
One of my fav older RPG games is Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy. I still have it and play it quite alot. Very entertaining game imo
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neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
November 28 2010 18:58 GMT
#81
I believe FF7 and 8 both had PC versions...good games
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
November 28 2010 22:51 GMT
#82
On November 29 2010 02:43 dANiELcanuck wrote:
I know I will probably catch a lot of flack for saying this, but honestly, after the latest patch, I'm going to say World of Warcraft is probably one of the greatest RPG's of all time. It is so much fun to play the game and immerse yourself in the world Blizzard has created.

nah , it's a boring grindfest
the only fun part about it is the PvP , even then blizzard ruined it by destroying the twink community
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
November 28 2010 23:47 GMT
#83
On November 28 2010 22:39 Manit0u wrote:
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On November 28 2010 20:01 DminusTerran wrote:
On November 28 2010 19:51 Shockk wrote:
"infinity engine snobs"? Seriously?

There's a reason people are recommending the Baldurs Gate series and other 10+ year old games despite their age. It might have to do with how awesome these were and still are compared to all newer and recent releases.


Nobody is saying Baldur's gate 2 is bad, it's the pinnacle of the genre. I'm tired of people who figure just because modern rpgs may not deliver an equally compelling experience they aren't worth checking out for people who are interested in the genre. Oblivion is just a decent game on its own merits and has extensive enough mod support to make it into an very deep experience.


It is becoming very hard to find ANY good games this days, not just RPGs. It looks like all the companies care about now is sell-factor and how much more graphically advanced their game is compared to the competition or how realistic does shit look there.
No one ever gives notice to details like story, coherency, atmosphere and overall experience any more.
I don't know about you, but I can't recall any recent game where I would actually feel immersed in and compelled to play despite literally falling asleep at the keyboard.
When I first got Morrowind on my hands I would play it 16hrs/day for 2 months straight and wouldn't get bored with it. Even now I like to launch it from time to time to re-live some of the fond memories I have about this game.

I find myself feeling the same way, Manitou. However, I've also found myself wondering if it's not just because I'm getting older, because my interests/priorities are changing, and because as a 26 year old who has gamed since he was 4, I've just about seen it all before... rather than it being a matter of game companies producing absolute trash.

These days I play games that are a 'quick fix' because I dont have 16 hours a day to play games like I did when I was in university. I dont have the interest in staying up until 4am playing Starcraft anymore because I value my sleep much more now... These days I jump on SC2, or COD, or SF4, or something similar, play for 20mins to an hour, and then I'm done.

That said, I think there are new games being made that I probably would play the absolute shit out of if I were younger... that I would find myself immersed in if I had not seen so much of it before... that I would be inclined to waste hours in if I actually had them to spare. Games like Demons Souls, Dragon Age, Uncharted 2.

I mean, yeah I agree that lots of the brilliant games of the past still outshine those made today, but I don't know if I agree with you that the games these days are all that bad because they are poorly made, as opposed to us older gamers looking back with rose coloured glasses.
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
November 29 2010 00:01 GMT
#84
On November 29 2010 00:21 plated.rawr wrote:
Recettear! Once you get past the cutesy anime bullshit, the game's very fun. It's an adventure-RPG though, so if you want freeroaming, this isn't for you.

Just finished playing it and definitely a recommended game. I can't seem to unlock the 4th dungeon though, I've met that Demon guy and changed my store to goth/dark, still nothing =(

But good fun, got it off steam with some indie pack for $5.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 29 2010 00:05 GMT
#85
I would recommend Final Fantasy X. It's relatively modern (unlike FF7), relatively straight forward, and really fun.

You can emulate it on a PC.
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Trigramatic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
November 29 2010 00:29 GMT
#86
No mention of ADoM, NetHack, Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup or Angband makes me a sad panda-bear-guy. These are all roguelikes that are seriously fun as RPGs and loot collection fixes. They're turn based though, and require that you learn that seeing @ - - - - D is not obscene, but a dragon breathing fire, lightning, ice or acid that will cut about 50% of your HP.
Oh dear.
Fiercegore
Profile Joined July 2010
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 00:49:14
November 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#87
Borderlands is probably the best rpg I've played in a long time. It's also nice because you can play it with your friends. It has good writing, good gameplay, and its got really fun downloadable content
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scyfir
Profile Joined February 2007
United States40 Posts
November 29 2010 01:09 GMT
#88
Im not sure if you're just looking for real time combat, but if you're ok with turn based grid combat then
I'd recommend the Avernum and Geneforge series, theyre by an independent developer: Spiderweb software.
They have a great story with multiple endings and ways to play, the combat and character progression is also great. The graphics are pretty dated but the most recent games look decent.
HINDYhat
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada30 Posts
November 29 2010 01:12 GMT
#89
You have to try Earthbound and Fallout 1/2. Best games I've ever played.
yoplate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 29 2010 01:20 GMT
#90
I LOVED Fallout 3, and Oblivion was pretty good too.
jetporkins
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
November 29 2010 01:22 GMT
#91
You have to go with Neverwinter Nights. I'm pretty sure it's only 20 bucks for the diamond edition (game+2 expansions on 1 dvd). That game has endless hours of a fun campaign. Additionally, you can play online with friends. That's not even the end of it. The best part is the toolset it includes. It's very easy to use and because of that, there's no shortage of good user created modules to play. Just check the NWVault. There's still ones being made now, even though the game came out like 7 years ago.

Also, if you want a more MMORPG type game, you can try D&D Online, it's free now, and it's not bad. The best part of that game has got to be the Dungeon Master Voice.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
November 29 2010 03:10 GMT
#92
I know people have mentioned Mass Effect 1/2 already, but I must mention them again. They are both truly epic games, with great story, combat and music. I've played through both of them multiple times, and just talking about them makes me want to play it again.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 29 2010 04:37 GMT
#93
The FF 7 and 8 PC ports are terrible, and 7 cut off early for me. You're better off with the console version, or just an emulator if you can't get the console ones. I would probably recomend VI over the others though. Terribly primitive graphically, but the music and character emotes get the job done.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 16:56:56
November 29 2010 16:56 GMT
#94
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^
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nOIZEbuddha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
164 Posts
November 29 2010 18:00 GMT
#95
Fuck PC man, SNES is the best platform for RPG!

Chrono Trigger!
Final Fantasy VI
Secret of Mana
Breath of Fire II
Illusion of Gaia/Time
Super Mario RPG
Zelda: A Link to the Past (not really RPG, but reeeally good)

If you don't want to buy a SNES, download an emulator!
I spoke to Flash's doctor, and apparently he got turrets syndrome
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 18:49:34
November 29 2010 18:43 GMT
#96
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^


I don't recall any really good isometric action-RPGs being released in the last few years. There's a number of games you could try - Divine Divinity, Sacred, Dungeon Siege - but I found most of those lacking. Once you're spoiled by Diablo 2, there's no going back.

If you already own Torchlight, you won't find a better single player action-RPG before Diablo 3 is released.

*edit: Yeah, I totally forgot Titan's Quest. It's pretty cool actually.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
November 29 2010 18:44 GMT
#97
The Dark Queen of Krynn.

Old school, but she's hot.
Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
November 29 2010 18:47 GMT
#98
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^


You would absolutely love Titan Quest !
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
November 29 2010 18:53 GMT
#99
On November 30 2010 03:00 nOIZEbuddha wrote:
Fuck PC man, SNES is the best platform for RPG!

Chrono Trigger!
Final Fantasy VI
Secret of Mana
Breath of Fire II
Illusion of Gaia/Time
Super Mario RPG
Zelda: A Link to the Past (not really RPG, but reeeally good)

If you don't want to buy a SNES, download an emulator!


Don't forget TERRANIGMA, the best of the Quintet games and one of my favorites right next to CT.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 29 2010 18:59 GMT
#100
KOTOR 1 is on Steam for $2.50 today. It's old, but do yourself a favor and get it.
Bigpet
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany533 Posts
November 29 2010 19:01 GMT
#101
If you an want a RPG so deep that it can swallow your whole life and has a learning curve that makes EVE look like it's for kindergarten kids:

Dwarf Fortress
I'm NOT the caster with a similar nick
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 29 2010 19:23 GMT
#102
I absolutely loved a few RPGS but that was a long time ago. Most memorable being Diablo 1, Diablo 2 and Dungeon Siege. Dungeon Siege games are fast to play through and then you are bored by death by them and Diablo stopped being fun years ago.

I tried Dragon age and I liked it for a little bit but eventually I got bored. I liked Mass effect 2 a lot but it had no aspect to it that would make me want to play it again. I tried fallout 3 for a few hours and it was just terrible imo.

It's weird that I have not found a RPG game that I could put maaaany hours into since Diablo 2 but I have my hopes up for the next one
royzizzle
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)51 Posts
November 29 2010 19:26 GMT
#103
DBZ all sagas

play it on BNET

highly recommend it.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
November 29 2010 19:28 GMT
#104
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^


Sacred 2 is the funnest dungeon crawler I've ever played, but it can be buggy (for me the SP worked mostly but the MP didn't work at all) It is said to be better with the expansion though.

Titan quest is also good, but the gameplay is slower and Sacred 2 has better skill/spell customization. I like Sacred 2 more, but there are people who don't agree.

DON'T buy Sacred 2 from steam though, the steam version is a less updated version of the retail.
nOIZEbuddha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
164 Posts
November 29 2010 19:41 GMT
#105
On November 30 2010 03:53 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 03:00 nOIZEbuddha wrote:
Fuck PC man, SNES is the best platform for RPG!

Chrono Trigger!
Final Fantasy VI
Secret of Mana
Breath of Fire II
Illusion of Gaia/Time
Super Mario RPG
Zelda: A Link to the Past (not really RPG, but reeeally good)

If you don't want to buy a SNES, download an emulator!


Don't forget TERRANIGMA, the best of the Quintet games and one of my favorites right next to CT.


I never played that one, but will buy it on eBay when I get the money(about 100USD!)
I spoke to Flash's doctor, and apparently he got turrets syndrome
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
November 29 2010 19:44 GMT
#106
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^

depths of peril and din's curse, both awesome fun H&S rpg's with really interesting features added that makes the games insanely fun to play.
Owarida
Profile Joined April 2010
United States333 Posts
November 29 2010 19:46 GMT
#107
I HIGHLY suggest playing Fallout 1 and 2. They were, for me, much more enjoyable than Fallout 3 (granted I don't like that style of RPG). The Diablo series is good if you have never picked it up. I would suggest playing D1 before D2 if you are interested, because a lot of the enjoy that I had from Diablo was the story line. Though, Diablo may be a bit boring these days. World of Warcraft is pretty good as far as MMOs go. Warhammer is great if you like low level PVP.
Khelz
Profile Joined August 2010
106 Posts
November 29 2010 21:53 GMT
#108
Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic is on a steam sale today for $2.50.

Would be a pretty good time to pick it up, unless you wear a funny hat and have a pet parrot.
Have a great day!
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#109
Morrowind
Might and Magic 6, I know it runs on XP with modern hardware but I have no idea on Win7/Vista
Knights of the Old Republic 1, 2 is alright but 1 was better if you ask me
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
November 29 2010 22:17 GMT
#110
I bought the King's Bounty 3-game set for 9 bucks during the Steam sale last weekend. Unfortunately, the sale is over now, so it's back up to 34.99. I'm thoroughly enjoying it, though. It is a Turn-Based Strategy/RPG game, and the graphics are very nice. I'll highly recommend at least trying the demo.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
November 29 2010 23:00 GMT
#111
On November 30 2010 03:47 Mikami_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^


You would absolutely love Titan Quest !

I agree on Titan Quest. It is by far my favourite Diablo clone, and actually improves on the original formula in my opinion.

To be honest I thought that Torchlight was rather poor overall. They boiled the formula down too much to the point where everything is just a generic dungeon. It really never felt like you were progressing through a world, unlike for example Titan Quest where there are numerous interesting boss battles/towns/quests/etc... that mark your passage through the world. Even Diablo 2 with its randomized dungeons still had interesting events (e.g. rescuing Cane from Tristram) that made you feel like you were making some sort of progress. It's a shame really because Torchlight was most of the way there but all they needed was multiplayer and some decent scripted plot events and it could have been one hell of a game.
Creator of LoLTool.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
November 29 2010 23:10 GMT
#112
As an aside, I would be interested to hear peoples opinion on controlling a party (such as Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age) vs. a single character (e.g. Diablo, Oblivion) in RPGs. Personally I hate having a party, it just makes no sense to me. I want to feel like the one character is me and that's who I control and no more. If other characters do tag along I want them AI controlled (like the mercs in Diablo 2). It's not even that I get heavily into roleplaying my character like some people do, I very much just view these things as pure games (I'm the level, loot, max dps, story-be-damned kind of player), but I find controlling a party extremely irritating.

Anybody else feel that way or do most people actually like the control-a-party RPGs more than those that only give you a single character?
Creator of LoLTool.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 29 2010 23:23 GMT
#113
On November 30 2010 08:10 Goragoth wrote:
As an aside, I would be interested to hear peoples opinion on controlling a party (such as Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age) vs. a single character (e.g. Diablo, Oblivion) in RPGs. Personally I hate having a party, it just makes no sense to me. I want to feel like the one character is me and that's who I control and no more. If other characters do tag along I want them AI controlled (like the mercs in Diablo 2). It's not even that I get heavily into roleplaying my character like some people do, I very much just view these things as pure games (I'm the level, loot, max dps, story-be-damned kind of player), but I find controlling a party extremely irritating.

Anybody else feel that way or do most people actually like the control-a-party RPGs more than those that only give you a single character?


I bolded the important part. Having a party is important if you actually want to roleplay to a degree or at least experience a roleplaying story. The social interaction between party members, the challenge of managing multiple interests, loyalties or alignments makes a huge part of the fun - at least for me.

Actually I believe you can't really roleplay on your own. Sure, you can assume a role and play your character accordingly, but for proper roleplay, you need a party to deliver feedback and to act as an audience.

There are few single-character games that offer the freedom, possibilities and mechancs flexible enough to really role-play. Most are just action games were the character's actions have little to no influence on the game world.

TL;DR: You want to roleplay? You need a party, for so many reasons. Single character games are almost exlusively action-RPGs with no real depth.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 29 2010 23:38 GMT
#114
On November 30 2010 08:10 Goragoth wrote:
As an aside, I would be interested to hear peoples opinion on controlling a party (such as Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age) vs. a single character (e.g. Diablo, Oblivion) in RPGs. Personally I hate having a party, it just makes no sense to me. I want to feel like the one character is me and that's who I control and no more. If other characters do tag along I want them AI controlled (like the mercs in Diablo 2). It's not even that I get heavily into roleplaying my character like some people do, I very much just view these things as pure games (I'm the level, loot, max dps, story-be-damned kind of player), but I find controlling a party extremely irritating.

Anybody else feel that way or do most people actually like the control-a-party RPGs more than those that only give you a single character?


Dude, did you ever even play Baldur's Gate? It's tactically extremely challenging. The complexity of fights is staggering and you have to think every move through.

Your argument is like saying "i think chess would be a better game if you just controlled the queen and the other pieces were AI controlled".
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
November 29 2010 23:47 GMT
#115
On November 30 2010 03:00 nOIZEbuddha wrote:
Fuck PC man, SNES is the best platform for RPG!

Chrono Trigger!
Final Fantasy VI
Secret of Mana
Breath of Fire II
Illusion of Gaia/Time
Super Mario RPG
Zelda: A Link to the Past (not really RPG, but reeeally good)

If you don't want to buy a SNES, download an emulator!


True mate. Though I have to disagree with Illusion of time. Was much to short and had a really disappointing story.
Terranigma would be a better choice for it though the Ending also was a bit of a let down. Yet one of the biggest SNES Games made. Playing it trough takes quite some time plus it has so many neat small things you can do to "progress earth". Well youll find out when you play it.

Other Cool SNES Rpgs were Secret of Evermore (also pretty long), Lufia, and the other arts of Secret of Mana (they are called Seiken Dentsu if I remember correctly. Though they were never released out of Japan imho *cough*).

Well for the PC, theres Morrowind, all the Fallout Games (say what you want, but I had a lot of fun with Fallout 3, too), Oblivion, the Witcher and so on.

For PSX, go play all the FF games, if you can bear the fighting system (well I for myself think its good, but its turnbased). Also Xenogears is a great game, though the graphics are a bit shoddy even for a PSX Game. A little tip while playing Xenogears: always have a failsave saving game thats a bit behind you progress. Otherwise you will sometimes have to replay the game from scratch
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
November 29 2010 23:48 GMT
#116
On November 30 2010 04:01 Bigpet wrote:
If you an want a RPG so deep that it can swallow your whole life and has a learning curve that makes EVE look like it's for kindergarten kids:

Dwarf Fortress


I've played it, I can recommend it to people who aren't too concerned about good looks and want a game that requires a buttload of work. Among the hardest games I've played tbh. I personally liked the city-managment mode more than the adventure mode though.

Sidenote: You can't actually beat this game.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 29 2010 23:56 GMT
#117
Morrowind (plus Tribunal and Bloodmoon) is my favorite rpg game of all time. The world it creates, and the political forces at work, are some of the most epic and believable. The lore surrounding the game is incredibly deep. Mods serve to perfect this game even more.

Oblivion was a huge disappointment for me. Don't go into it expecting the story to be nearly as good.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
November 30 2010 00:04 GMT
#118
If you're serious about the ROLEPLAY aspect you can always play a roleplay-enforced MUD. Two of which I know are really really good are Ateraan and Threshold RPG. They require you to be in character at almost all times and have a pretty active (for MUD standards) player base. The worlds have incredible history, economy, politics, etc.

Just something different I don't think has been mentioned.
Chains none
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
December 03 2010 07:00 GMT
#119
On November 30 2010 09:04 LordWeird wrote:
If you're serious about the ROLEPLAY aspect you can always play a roleplay-enforced MUD. Two of which I know are really really good are Ateraan and Threshold RPG. They require you to be in character at almost all times and have a pretty active (for MUD standards) player base. The worlds have incredible history, economy, politics, etc.

Just something different I don't think has been mentioned.


I think there are newer roleplay enforced online worlds than MUDs too. I know NWN 1 had quite a few that were very successful.
Wake up Mr. B!
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
December 03 2010 07:16 GMT
#120
im going to revoice a couple others have said. star wars knights of the old republic, morrowind, and zelda(pick one lol). in all honesty ive given a try to almost every major rpg including dragon age, final fantasy, baulders gate, diablo, world of warcraft, mass effect 1&2, fallout 3. and the three i mentioned b4 where the only ones to hold my attention all the way through. specifically starwars knights of the old republic. that game is honestly the most underrated rpg ever, its just genuinely fun to play, never once did i feel the need to grind or push myself to get through a certain part of the game, when you build your first lightsaber its soooo awesome! oh and a good mud is always fun lol. totaly into dragonlance themed muds as a kid.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 03 2010 07:33 GMT
#121
Everytime on of these threads come up I will recommend Skies of Arcadia. It doesn't matter, Gamecube or Dreamcast, just find a way to play this beautiful game that changed my perspective on RPGs.
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
December 03 2010 09:05 GMT
#122
On November 30 2010 01:56 whiteLotus wrote:
could you guys recommend something for me like Diablo2, or Torchlight, you know that hack&slash dungeon style, and i would like something new, not old game ^^


sacred 2 is pretty cool but only if you get a bit further in the game. The first few levels are basically about killing rats but later on its fun and challenging.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
December 03 2010 09:29 GMT
#123
Diablo 2, Borderlands are probably right up your alley.
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
December 03 2010 11:25 GMT
#124
Playing through Knights of the Old Republic now, quite fun and good that your choice of Light/Dark side actually affects the game.

My game keeps crashing though, so I can't advance
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
December 03 2010 12:33 GMT
#125
[B]On November 30 2010 08:47 Dekker wrote
Other Cool SNES Rpgs were Secret of Evermore (also pretty long), Lufia, and the other arts of Secret of Mana (they are called Seiken Dentsu if I remember correctly. Though they were never released out of Japan imho *cough*).


I second the recommendation of the Seiken Densetsu games. They got rid of some of the mos annoying features of JRPGs (oh no, a random encounter) and instead introduced a buttonmashy arcadey combat system, which was quite revolutionary for its time.

It's true that they were never released outside Japan, but fanmade translation patches (as well as the ROM) can be found on the internet.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 03 2010 12:43 GMT
#126
On December 03 2010 21:33 beef42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On November 30 2010 08:47 Dekker wrote
Other Cool SNES Rpgs were Secret of Evermore (also pretty long), Lufia, and the other arts of Secret of Mana (they are called Seiken Dentsu if I remember correctly. Though they were never released out of Japan imho *cough*).


I second the recommendation of the Seiken Densetsu games. They got rid of some of the mos annoying features of JRPGs (oh no, a random encounter) and instead introduced a buttonmashy arcadey combat system, which was quite revolutionary for its time.

It's true that they were never released outside Japan, but fanmade translation patches (as well as the ROM) can be found on the internet.


seiken densetsu 3(? the one with the classes,werewolf/thief etc) was soooo goood. so freakin amazing in evry aspect.

lacks the nostalgia that make secret of mana/evermore so great for me but damn... think im gonna dl it and play it again now...
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
December 03 2010 13:51 GMT
#127
MORROWIND, a million times Morrowind.

For older games, the first two Baldur's Gate and Fallout games are awesome, and for newer, I'd go for Dragon Age.
good luck have batman
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 14:06:00
December 03 2010 14:05 GMT
#128
Can someone recommend some new third person party rpgs (like DAO, NWN, BG, DS, etc)?

I really can't stand first person rpgs like Fallout, evne though I really want to know the story :/
No pain, no gain!
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 03 2010 14:09 GMT
#129
Morrowind was so boring, in terms of Open World-RPGs Gothic 1 and especially 2+addon are much much better.

I don't know why Gothic is so heavily underrated outside of Germany, the games are amazing.

I would not recommend Gothic3, but Risen is pretty good aswell, the best RPG in the last years imo.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
December 03 2010 23:32 GMT
#130
Starcraft 1 & 2
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 03 2010 23:55 GMT
#131
Gothic 3
Morrowind
Baldurs gate
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