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sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
November 09 2010 06:07 GMT
#321
On November 09 2010 14:56 Tekin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 14:47 motus wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:43 Rashta wrote:
And are the names in multiplayer unique (first come first serve)?
Not sure about consoles, but for PC its run though steam, so i would assume that you get whatever name your steam id is.


what about people who don't run the game through steam?


Its a steam exclusive so you will be installing steam once you get your hard copy from the store


Oh wow I had no idea it was steam exclusive. So considering ids can be changed in steam, I guess names won't be unique?
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 09 2010 06:08 GMT
#322
On November 09 2010 15:06 prodiG wrote:
I just fired the game up.
I clicked options.

I saw a field of view bar

then, i pressed tilde.

THE GAME HAS A FUCKING CONSOLE! THIS IS SO AWESOME :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AHHH FUUU! I know you can play the multiplayer already but I know its gonna be terrible laggy.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
November 09 2010 06:20 GMT
#323
On November 09 2010 14:56 Tekin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 14:47 motus wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:43 Rashta wrote:
And are the names in multiplayer unique (first come first serve)?
Not sure about consoles, but for PC its run though steam, so i would assume that you get whatever name your steam id is.


what about people who don't run the game through steam?


Its a steam exclusive so you will be installing steam once you get your hard copy from the store.

Sucks for my friend his already in line with 100 people and its 56 degrees outside.


56 degrees is actually really lucky for a november game launch. just on saturday it was below freezing by midnight in atlanta.

or are you one of those people from san diego or something and it never gets that cold usually?
Free Palestine
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
November 09 2010 06:24 GMT
#324
Jesus, Fidel Castro is not dead wtf stop calling him zombie you fuckers
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#325
On November 09 2010 15:20 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 14:56 Tekin wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:47 motus wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:43 Rashta wrote:
And are the names in multiplayer unique (first come first serve)?
Not sure about consoles, but for PC its run though steam, so i would assume that you get whatever name your steam id is.


what about people who don't run the game through steam?


Its a steam exclusive so you will be installing steam once you get your hard copy from the store.

Sucks for my friend his already in line with 100 people and its 56 degrees outside.


56 degrees is actually really lucky for a november game launch. just on saturday it was below freezing by midnight in atlanta.

or are you one of those people from san diego or something and it never gets that cold usually?


LA
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Legat0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States318 Posts
November 09 2010 06:42 GMT
#326
On November 09 2010 15:20 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 14:56 Tekin wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:47 motus wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:43 Rashta wrote:
And are the names in multiplayer unique (first come first serve)?
Not sure about consoles, but for PC its run though steam, so i would assume that you get whatever name your steam id is.


what about people who don't run the game through steam?


Its a steam exclusive so you will be installing steam once you get your hard copy from the store.

Sucks for my friend his already in line with 100 people and its 56 degrees outside.


56 degrees is actually really lucky for a november game launch. just on saturday it was below freezing by midnight in atlanta.

or are you one of those people from san diego or something and it never gets that cold usually?


Sheeeeee-it... I wish it was 56 degrees here...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 06:45:29
November 09 2010 06:45 GMT
#327
On November 09 2010 15:42 Legat0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 15:20 Ideas wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:56 Tekin wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:47 motus wrote:
On November 09 2010 14:43 Rashta wrote:
And are the names in multiplayer unique (first come first serve)?
Not sure about consoles, but for PC its run though steam, so i would assume that you get whatever name your steam id is.


what about people who don't run the game through steam?


Its a steam exclusive so you will be installing steam once you get your hard copy from the store.

Sucks for my friend his already in line with 100 people and its 56 degrees outside.


56 degrees is actually really lucky for a november game launch. just on saturday it was below freezing by midnight in atlanta.

or are you one of those people from san diego or something and it never gets that cold usually?


Sheeeeee-it... I wish it was 56 degrees here...


/offtopic
-~10c and snowing. Fuck me.

/offtopic ends
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
November 09 2010 06:51 GMT
#328
sc2'n it up at the moment. getting mine later today cause i dont feel like waiting in line. Anyway if anyone wants to play add me, my gamertag is IntoTheBush
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 07:50:10
November 09 2010 07:40 GMT
#329
Alright, got the game fired up. Here's my first impression:

Console access is fucking great. I got the game looking and feeling like CoD4 (or as close as I possibly could). But the game performs like absolute garbage and my PC should slap this game around like there's no tomorrow, especially on the absurdly low settings I run at (8 physical cores @ 2.4ghz, 16gb ram, gtx 280, nuff said). I couldn't play through an entire round before being split from the game and when I could get into a fight often the game would hitch, I'd teleport and next thing I know I'm flashed and I'm dying. Pretty disappointing to see the midnight launch suck so hard, but I've come to expect it from developers that aren't Blizzard. As far as I'm concerned, the multiplayer is downright unplayable until a patch is deployed or a fix is found (I made a quick google search to no avail).

That said, let's focus on the mechanics and features of the game (or what little I got to experience when I was playing with 40fps and not teleporting). The stock assault class starts with Last Stand. That is fucking garbage and whoever came up with that idea seriously needs to be crucified. Every second guy I manage to take down (which takes quite a bit of work, I'll get to that in a second) falls into last stand and because my weakass gun couldn't kill him before pouring my clip into him and his buddy i'm now forced to try and fall back and reload without the game lagging and getting capped around a corner by a pistol. I stuck to the M16 (assault) and MP5 (specops) classes, and boy does this game ever need stopping power. The M16 simply will not kill someone in a single burst, but the kick is easy to control. The MP5's kick is significantly bigger than it was in MW2 or CoD4 and I had a pretty hard time controlling it (I can't tell if it's because I just started playing, or because I'm playing at 40fps and can't aim and am hitching my pants off every 2 seconds, I suspect a bit of both) and thus I'd find myself shooting 15 shots at someone before they'd finally go down. This is about on par with what I'd expect from some starter guns. Grenades are well-rounded, the arc isn't obscene but you can still lob it over a wall (but not across the map, thank god) and you need to be reasonably close to the blast radius to actually die. The only other grenade I encountered were flashbangs which again seemed pretty balanced. You needed to be pretty close for them to obliterate your vision so hard there is no way you're going to stay alive.
The only killstreaks I saw were spy plane and counter spy plane. Someone called a Valkyrie but I never actually saw it, so I definitely can't say much in that regard.
The maps that I played seemed to have a slightly high number of angles to work around (like in MW2, a lot of the maps were very hard to move around in because all of the paths to move could be crossfired by half a dozen windows, corners and ledges). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just changes the pace of the game (and for a player like me who wants to move around and kill people a lot rather than camp, it just makes the skill ceiling higher). All of the TDM games I played (I tried to play through about five) I found myself respawning in the same area every time I died which leads me to believe the spawn system is a little borked, although I never got spawnkilled.
Some other wierd quirks are that when ironsighted, I could still hear my own footsteps so I assume that my enemies can as well. For those of you who played specops classes in CoD4 and MW2, you'll understand that this completely changes the game (right up until you get ghost or ninja anyway). I didn't unlock anything because I couldn't sit through a single roun so I can't go into much depth.

All in all, until the game gets patch or a fix is found I give the multiplayer a 1/10. Completely unplayable, 40fps when I should be able to push 120 is ridiculous on top of the fact that hitching, and five seconds later you're in a wall and two seconds after you're knifed leads to a pretty shitty game experience.
Once the game is patched up and playable, I can easily see this game being at the very least a 7/10, maybe even more once I can play with some of the other guns and unlocks. The game seems to be mechanically sound when it works and I look forward to when I can actually give the game a real chance.

Edit: example of lag issues
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2298 Posts
November 09 2010 07:46 GMT
#330
Oh boy Im at work atm and saw the game launched when I left home, sucks! Now i have to wait till night to get home and actually play it
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 09 2010 07:55 GMT
#331
I was going to buy this...

But my mate went to the midnight launch here in Aus and was telling me earlier this morning that he could barely get it running because of shit optimisation (his comp should smash the game fwiw)...

Now I read people here having similar issues.

Not buying it until they patch it and I hear that the PC issues are fixed. I have a PS3... but FUCK FPS on consoles lol.
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
November 09 2010 08:08 GMT
#332
I guess I'll also wait until the pc version is patched up. I'm tempted to get it for my ps3...but no. Must resist.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 09 2010 08:11 GMT
#333
On November 09 2010 17:08 motus wrote:
I guess I'll also wait until the pc version is patched up. I'm tempted to get it for my ps3...but no. Must resist.


Get it for the PC unless you have friends that has Black Ops on the PS3 and don't mind fps on consoles lol.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 08:16:49
November 09 2010 08:12 GMT
#334
I havent played COD for awhile (since COD4). I wonder what version is better to get the PC or PS3. I usually only play SC2 on my PC. Most others games I play PS3 version.
Advice is needed here guys. Thanks
One more question for people with the game already: Are the alot of Vietcong shooting in the game? Being Vietnamese, I dont want to play a game that I go out and shoot my country man all day :D
Terran
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
November 09 2010 08:21 GMT
#335
On November 09 2010 16:40 prodiG wrote:
Alright, got the game fired up. Here's my first impression:

Console access is fucking great. I got the game looking and feeling like CoD4 (or as close as I possibly could). But the game performs like absolute garbage and my PC should slap this game around like there's no tomorrow, especially on the absurdly low settings I run at (8 physical cores @ 2.4ghz, 16gb ram, gtx 280, nuff said). I couldn't play through an entire round before being split from the game and when I could get into a fight often the game would hitch, I'd teleport and next thing I know I'm flashed and I'm dying. Pretty disappointing to see the midnight launch suck so hard, but I've come to expect it from developers that aren't Blizzard. As far as I'm concerned, the multiplayer is downright unplayable until a patch is deployed or a fix is found (I made a quick google search to no avail).

That said, let's focus on the mechanics and features of the game (or what little I got to experience when I was playing with 40fps and not teleporting). The stock assault class starts with Last Stand. That is fucking garbage and whoever came up with that idea seriously needs to be crucified. Every second guy I manage to take down (which takes quite a bit of work, I'll get to that in a second) falls into last stand and because my weakass gun couldn't kill him before pouring my clip into him and his buddy i'm now forced to try and fall back and reload without the game lagging and getting capped around a corner by a pistol. I stuck to the M16 (assault) and MP5 (specops) classes, and boy does this game ever need stopping power. The M16 simply will not kill someone in a single burst, but the kick is easy to control. The MP5's kick is significantly bigger than it was in MW2 or CoD4 and I had a pretty hard time controlling it (I can't tell if it's because I just started playing, or because I'm playing at 40fps and can't aim and am hitching my pants off every 2 seconds, I suspect a bit of both) and thus I'd find myself shooting 15 shots at someone before they'd finally go down. This is about on par with what I'd expect from some starter guns. Grenades are well-rounded, the arc isn't obscene but you can still lob it over a wall (but not across the map, thank god) and you need to be reasonably close to the blast radius to actually die. The only other grenade I encountered were flashbangs which again seemed pretty balanced. You needed to be pretty close for them to obliterate your vision so hard there is no way you're going to stay alive.
The only killstreaks I saw were spy plane and counter spy plane. Someone called a Valkyrie but I never actually saw it, so I definitely can't say much in that regard.
The maps that I played seemed to have a slightly high number of angles to work around (like in MW2, a lot of the maps were very hard to move around in because all of the paths to move could be crossfired by half a dozen windows, corners and ledges). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just changes the pace of the game (and for a player like me who wants to move around and kill people a lot rather than camp, it just makes the skill ceiling higher). All of the TDM games I played (I tried to play through about five) I found myself respawning in the same area every time I died which leads me to believe the spawn system is a little borked, although I never got spawnkilled.
Some other wierd quirks are that when ironsighted, I could still hear my own footsteps so I assume that my enemies can as well. For those of you who played specops classes in CoD4 and MW2, you'll understand that this completely changes the game (right up until you get ghost or ninja anyway). I didn't unlock anything because I couldn't sit through a single roun so I can't go into much depth.

All in all, until the game gets patch or a fix is found I give the multiplayer a 1/10. Completely unplayable, 40fps when I should be able to push 120 is ridiculous on top of the fact that hitching, and five seconds later you're in a wall and two seconds after you're knifed leads to a pretty shitty game experience.
Once the game is patched up and playable, I can easily see this game being at the very least a 7/10, maybe even more once I can play with some of the other guns and unlocks. The game seems to be mechanically sound when it works and I look forward to when I can actually give the game a real chance.

Edit: example of lag issues


welp, thats depressing
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
November 09 2010 08:34 GMT
#336
In my steam it says the multiplayer isnt available for another 7 hours, its already 12:30 AM for me, shouldn't it have been playable at midnight(still preloading)?
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
November 09 2010 08:38 GMT
#337
On November 09 2010 17:34 ZomgTossRush wrote:
In my steam it says the multiplayer isnt available for another 7 hours, its already 12:30 AM for me, shouldn't it have been playable at midnight(still preloading)?

I restarted my steam client and now I'm not able to play anymore. Oh well~ (130AM here)
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 09 2010 08:40 GMT
#338
i dont have any lag issues, and my PC is ~3 years old. also spawnkilling is less likely, don't know where you have seen it. even on Nuketown, a very small map you have fences to defend your spawn.

oh, and are there any commands to increase the FOV or only through the settings?
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 09:25:25
November 09 2010 09:23 GMT
#339
And the last page and a half is why I generally get games on consoles. PCs friggin' hate me. Has pretty much nothing to do with control scheme or any of that bs. Just that if I buy a game for a console I know it's gonna work (though if it doesn't, the devs really screwed up and it likely won't get patched since it IS a console, so I can walk away from the game pretty quickly). I generally have trouble with computers between trying to tweak settings, random crashes/things dying and other junk. There are just so many variations on computer setups that devs will miss stuff from time to time.

While there can be an argument made for keyboard/mouse vs. controller, if I'm on console everyone else is using a controller so it's an even playing field in that respect so no biggie.

Was gonna go to the midnight release (which would've felt like a special kind of nerdy), but ended up hanging out with some friends and played Settlers. Guess I'll roll over there in the morning. Get to watch some MBC vs. Hite in the meantime until I'm tired enough to sleep.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
November 09 2010 10:37 GMT
#340
Game is fun and really feels like it went back to the Cod4/Cod2 roots...

But like said before, the game has massive memory leaks, and lags even the best of machines.
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