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XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
February 24 2011 08:38 GMT
#2321
Well if you buy stews from people NOT named Verzell, then they cost 1.5 mill each, or less.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
_Ness_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States77 Posts
February 24 2011 10:08 GMT
#2322
can someone invite StarmanTL so i can chat while i grind out this ring?
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
February 24 2011 11:42 GMT
#2323
Now that i have decided to go for the path of marksman, i want to know if i should go strengthless or follow the guide in OP. Any suggestions?

I was thinking of going strengthless since there is an item called "VIP Crossbow " which require lvl 127 to use (no strength required) but on the other hand, i've seen alot of ppl in other forums suggesting otherwise.
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
February 24 2011 11:53 GMT
#2324
On February 24 2011 20:42 ace246 wrote:
Now that i have decided to go for the path of marksman, i want to know if i should go strengthless or follow the guide in OP. Any suggestions?

I was thinking of going strengthless since there is an item called "VIP Crossbow " which require lvl 127 to use (no strength required) but on the other hand, i've seen alot of ppl in other forums suggesting otherwise.

Well, after I googled 'VIP Crossbow', I wouldn't plan on getting one anytime soon. It was a glitched item from a year ago, and Deme's not even that old I believe.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 24 2011 13:00 GMT
#2325
ace246, even for funded people it is difficult not to invest any points into your secondary stat. I'd recommend putting 46 points (total str = 50) and then waiting it out to see what kind of gear you get. Usually at the end it works out that you need somewhere between 40 and 60.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 24 2011 13:29 GMT
#2326
On February 24 2011 20:53 Neos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 20:42 ace246 wrote:
Now that i have decided to go for the path of marksman, i want to know if i should go strengthless or follow the guide in OP. Any suggestions?

I was thinking of going strengthless since there is an item called "VIP Crossbow " which require lvl 127 to use (no strength required) but on the other hand, i've seen alot of ppl in other forums suggesting otherwise.

Well, after I googled 'VIP Crossbow', I wouldn't plan on getting one anytime soon. It was a glitched item from a year ago, and Deme's not even that old I believe.


Deme is well older than a year - closer to two actually. halfway through the upcoming Maple Birthday event (that's april, right?) it'll be two I believe.

Been considering playing lately, but really swamped with classes. Maybe this weekend.
xusam
Profile Joined February 2011
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 13:33:52
February 24 2011 13:31 GMT
#2327
Even in scania where everyone and their moms were doing the alien pq last year the vip weapons people are willing to sell were very hard to find. Also if you did find one it'd be upwards of 1b to 2b for a clean weapon. Also no one knows if nexon will bring back the event to get the weapons again because it was suppose to have been a one time only event but you never know with nexon. The thing is best case scenario if you do get your hands on a vip weapon. Unless you have the funds to scroll it, it might turn out to be a wash compared to just adding dex and getting a well scrolled weapon with good potential stats. There are plenty of things to upgrade before getting a vip weapon that is more efficient mesos-wise.

So basically unless you have I'd say at least 8b of funding, I wouldn't count on using a vip weapon anytime soon considering you can level up to 127 in a month or two.

It all depends on what you have to work with but atm I believe a perfect scrolled vip weapon is as good as it gets but with that comes the ridiculous prices
I like to ninja stuffs.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
February 24 2011 18:00 GMT
#2328
Eh, you can choose to go STRless for the first 80 or so levels but after that you're definitely going to need to add a bunch of str just to keep up with averagely funded damage.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 20:49:16
February 24 2011 20:48 GMT
#2329
First time I've spent a significant amount of mesos on anything:

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Too bad it's only 2lines

What should I do with it, keep until I can scroll it perfectly? Try sell it? Start cubing?
No I'm never serious.
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
February 24 2011 20:59 GMT
#2330
Do not scroll that perfectly. If you get PoT at 4 mill each, making a reverse costs approximately 190 mil. Just 1 white scroll costs 200 mill. I say only scroll a 3 lined weapon perfectly.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
February 24 2011 22:47 GMT
#2331
On February 24 2011 15:12 XinRan wrote:
Just to add to what roffles said, 15 m/watt is very significant. The only att pots I see that are better than bless are ciders, apples, stews, and energizers. Ciders, apples, and stews are not practical for training, however. Each cider takes up 1 slot and lasts only 5 minutes. Stews costs 1.5 mill each and not even the richest maplers would even consider using apples to train. Energizers are viable for training, but if you aren't high enough level to farm them, you're stuck paying 200k for each one.


Wizard Elixirs cost 5k and give +20 M.ATK for 8 minutes. So for a Magician, Bless isn't all that helpful if you have any money at all. As for W.ATK-based classes..

On February 24 2011 14:46 Roffles wrote:
I don't see a problem with free warrior/wizard pots. Only other buffs you'll find are Meditation for Mages and Rage for Heroes. But honestly, how many of those do you see around these days? Like none. If you're playing a Cleric without Bless after Heal, then you should just quit and play another class. Cause you're all about the party buffs. If you play Cleric to solo, then quit.


Exactly why would party dynamics come into play at level 50, when you train at a map you can easily control yourself until level 70?

On February 24 2011 14:46 Roffles wrote:
Just because it doesn't stack doesn't mean you shouldn't get it first. What else are you going to get? Invincible? MP Eater? Okay... MP Eater on Lvl 50 mobs with 0 MP. Yes, you do that.


Teleport and Invincible would indeed be better options. The gains are small, but at least they exist. Even MP Eater would be a better investment for the 8 MP you get one time hitting a Ghoul on your way back to training, because at least you're getting something.

Bless (along with every other skill barring Holy Arrow) must be maxed by third job anyway, whether you want it or not. So by the time you get to the stage in the game where partying is relevant, you have it. All I'm saying is that it's not absolutely vital to get it right after Heal. I'm not saying you shouldn't get it at all, or to spend the points in HA.

I don't understand why this is a topic that inspires so much rage from some of you. Quit? Seriously? Because I'm going to have max Bless at level 70 rather than 47? Not to mention my Cleric won't even be relevant in parties until then anyway?

Just.. chill.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
February 24 2011 23:21 GMT
#2332
I didn't know that magician elixirs gave that much. Warrior elixirs give only +12 watt though.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 25 2011 00:32 GMT
#2333
Really need to park a mule at NLC, too lazy to get warrior elixirs I've been on warrior pills (+5 w.att)
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 02:01:51
February 25 2011 01:59 GMT
#2334
Whatever. I'm done trying to convince you, because it really doesn't matter in the end. Everyone knows you won't ever get to 70.

Don't know about you, but partying at crows and jesters is a pretty good idea. But hey, what do I know? I'm a noob.
God Bless
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 25 2011 02:24 GMT
#2335
Barring magic mastery, shouldn't bless be the best increase anyway unless you train with wizard elixirs...Assuming you're actually attacking of course.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Epsilon8
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
February 25 2011 04:01 GMT
#2336
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 07:47 .Aar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 15:12 XinRan wrote:
Just to add to what roffles said, 15 m/watt is very significant. The only att pots I see that are better than bless are ciders, apples, stews, and energizers. Ciders, apples, and stews are not practical for training, however. Each cider takes up 1 slot and lasts only 5 minutes. Stews costs 1.5 mill each and not even the richest maplers would even consider using apples to train. Energizers are viable for training, but if you aren't high enough level to farm them, you're stuck paying 200k for each one.


Wizard Elixirs cost 5k and give +20 M.ATK for 8 minutes. So for a Magician, Bless isn't all that helpful if you have any money at all. As for W.ATK-based classes..

Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 14:46 Roffles wrote:
I don't see a problem with free warrior/wizard pots. Only other buffs you'll find are Meditation for Mages and Rage for Heroes. But honestly, how many of those do you see around these days? Like none. If you're playing a Cleric without Bless after Heal, then you should just quit and play another class. Cause you're all about the party buffs. If you play Cleric to solo, then quit.


Exactly why would party dynamics come into play at level 50, when you train at a map you can easily control yourself until level 70?

Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 14:46 Roffles wrote:
Just because it doesn't stack doesn't mean you shouldn't get it first. What else are you going to get? Invincible? MP Eater? Okay... MP Eater on Lvl 50 mobs with 0 MP. Yes, you do that.


Teleport and Invincible would indeed be better options. The gains are small, but at least they exist. Even MP Eater would be a better investment for the 8 MP you get one time hitting a Ghoul on your way back to training, because at least you're getting something.

Bless (along with every other skill barring Holy Arrow) must be maxed by third job anyway, whether you want it or not. So by the time you get to the stage in the game where partying is relevant, you have it. All I'm saying is that it's not absolutely vital to get it right after Heal. I'm not saying you shouldn't get it at all, or to spend the points in HA.

I don't understand why this is a topic that inspires so much rage from some of you. Quit? Seriously? Because I'm going to have max Bless at level 70 rather than 47? Not to mention my Cleric won't even be relevant in parties until then anyway?

Just.. chill.



Wizard Elixirs stack on Meditation?
If you wish to travel far and fast, travel light. Take off all your envies, jealousies, unforgiveness, selfishness, and fears.
kesrith
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany393 Posts
February 25 2011 04:27 GMT
#2337

Wizard Elixirs stack on Meditation?

Nope they don't. Which makes the only party buff archmages have obsolete. I don't get why rage got a buff in Big Bang while meditation stayed the same.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
February 25 2011 05:33 GMT
#2338


1 minute mark.
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Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
February 25 2011 05:52 GMT
#2339
I dont get it kritty
aka myheronoob
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 25 2011 08:21 GMT
#2340
I want the best for you
but better for me

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