• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:57
CEST 20:57
KST 03:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon175.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes22Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ProGamer Paychecks Story Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5127 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 349

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 347 348 349 350 351 665 Next
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#6961
On April 14 2013 04:18 Audemed wrote:
Is cavern of souls used outside of standard? I really want to pick up a set but iits hard to do so when they rotate so soon...

Goblins in Legacy and sideboards of some creature decks in Modern.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 20:42:07
April 13 2013 20:36 GMT
#6962
So itll crash after rotation then huh? Lame.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 01:06:33
April 14 2013 01:02 GMT
#6963
On April 13 2013 22:56 Judicator wrote:
Dont think this works on a budget level. That deck's concept is built entirely on incremental advantage to basically nickel and dime your way to victory, not sure this version does that well enough. Basically in these sum of the parts greater than the whole decks I dont think you can just swap like that. I would rather have removal than Faithmender for aggro in these decks since you dont have cards like tusks and healers etc.



Surprise, 5-2 placing 12th out of 74. Called the meta correctly, mainly RG, Naya, Some other aggro deck. Very few midrange and control. Deck thrived and should have gone 6-1 but I missed played vs RG dying to triple searing spear in grip, then Thundermaw off the top game 2.

I dont remember the order I played them but the Match-ups went as follows

1-1 vs UWR Flash
0-1 GR Aggro
1-0 Mono Red
1-0 BR aggro
1-0 Golgari aggro
1-0 Selesnya Midrange?(mana dorks, rancor, silverblades, sublimes, Smiters)
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 14 2013 01:18 GMT
#6964
So 1-2 against actual decks...

Grats on the win regardless. Not sure how you misplay against triple Spear though, that just happens when you're playing with sack effects.
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 14 2013 01:26 GMT
#6965
On April 14 2013 10:18 Judicator wrote:
So 1-2 against actual decks...

Grats on the win regardless. Not sure how you misplay against triple Spear though, that just happens when you're playing with sack effects.



When you block wrong earlier in the game which causes you to lose to triple searing spear at the end is how you misplay. I don't have blood artist so my sac effects are simply for skirsdag and pro colors.

Also not to make excuses but I drew so poorly against the one UWR match-up. Mull to 5 in game 2 and have 8 lands in play at the end of the game...was so frustrating.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 14 2013 02:50 GMT
#6966
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 14 2013 03:11 GMT
#6967
On April 14 2013 10:26 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 10:18 Judicator wrote:
So 1-2 against actual decks...

Grats on the win regardless. Not sure how you misplay against triple Spear though, that just happens when you're playing with sack effects.



When you block wrong earlier in the game which causes you to lose to triple searing spear at the end is how you misplay. I don't have blood artist so my sac effects are simply for skirsdag and pro colors.

Also not to make excuses but I drew so poorly against the one UWR match-up. Mull to 5 in game 2 and have 8 lands in play at the end of the game...was so frustrating.


I played against that deck a few times tonight while watching SCG Milwaukee. Didn't think much of it in the Esper match-up, they need to resolve a Obzedat or an FalkA to actually win, but I felt like the pilots were pretty incompetent.
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 03:32:24
April 14 2013 03:14 GMT
#6968
On April 14 2013 11:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.


Yea it happens. It's nothing to get mad about. I find Magic is sort of this Zen thing with me. I tend to make better plays and my deck seems to reward my more laid back approach. i know the deck doesn't literally reward me, but the ability to just accept it and move on instead of get frustrated and go on tilt like i used to do has really shown in my recent magic adventures.

Also it's a lot more fun when you an candidly talk with an opponent after a game instead of them being super pissed they got mana flooded.

Another thing Judicator, I would love to play the aristocrats deck, but with Dragon's Maze coming soon and funds being an issue I just play budget fun decks that are similar to standard decks that fit my store format. Like honestly I would probably be playing BW zombies if I wasn't playing this. I love this game and even if I don't win all the time I would rather play and lose than not play at all you know? MTG and LoL are like my new BW. Something I can go to when I'm depressed or mad and just relax and play or deck build or something. I think I get more out of the quirks of deck building than I do the game itself. I honestly think I play just to see if crazy stuff can win games. Like my RWB tokens list when lingering souls and hellrider were first printed, or the Awakening Zone/Furnace Celebration "combo" in scars/Zendikar. Maybe I'm writing a bit too much and getting too gushy about this, but in my first two events with this deck after not playing Standard since ravnica was released, it feels good to play with people like Musser, Kovacs, and the Gearharts and still compete even with my budget deck. Like this guy was in top 16 with this crazy BG Slitherhead, Lotleth troll, Predator ooze deck and that's the kind of stuff I love to see. People who give zero shits about the meta, play what they think is fun and win anyways. Now I'm rambling and just talking about stuff I've probably already said but whatever I guess.



Now back to Actual card discussion. My friends and I were thinking of post-Innistrad Standard without this smooth mana and do you guys think Guildgates or keyrunes will see play when 2014 comes out? Especially if they don't reprint the tap lands, or do something crazy like reprint Onslaught/Zendikar fetches in a core set.


Edit: as I say I would play BW zombies, a list top 16s at Starcity.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 14 2013 03:44 GMT
#6969
On April 14 2013 12:14 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 11:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.


Yea it happens. It's nothing to get mad about. I find Magic is sort of this Zen thing with me. I tend to make better plays and my deck seems to reward my more laid back approach. i know the deck doesn't literally reward me, but the ability to just accept it and move on instead of get frustrated and go on tilt like i used to do has really shown in my recent magic adventures.

Also it's a lot more fun when you an candidly talk with an opponent after a game instead of them being super pissed they got mana flooded.

Another thing Judicator, I would love to play the aristocrats deck, but with Dragon's Maze coming soon and funds being an issue I just play budget fun decks that are similar to standard decks that fit my store format. Like honestly I would probably be playing BW zombies if I wasn't playing this. I love this game and even if I don't win all the time I would rather play and lose than not play at all you know? MTG and LoL are like my new BW. Something I can go to when I'm depressed or mad and just relax and play or deck build or something. I think I get more out of the quirks of deck building than I do the game itself. I honestly think I play just to see if crazy stuff can win games. Like my RWB tokens list when lingering souls and hellrider were first printed, or the Awakening Zone/Furnace Celebration "combo" in scars/Zendikar. Maybe I'm writing a bit too much and getting too gushy about this, but in my first two events with this deck after not playing Standard since ravnica was released, it feels good to play with people like Musser, Kovacs, and the Gearharts and still compete even with my budget deck. Like this guy was in top 16 with this crazy BG Slitherhead, Lotleth troll, Predator ooze deck and that's the kind of stuff I love to see. People who give zero shits about the meta, play what they think is fun and win anyways. Now I'm rambling and just talking about stuff I've probably already said but whatever I guess.



Now back to Actual card discussion. My friends and I were thinking of post-Innistrad Standard without this smooth mana and do you guys think Guildgates or keyrunes will see play when 2014 comes out? Especially if they don't reprint the tap lands, or do something crazy like reprint Onslaught/Zendikar fetches in a core set.


Edit: as I say I would play BW zombies, a list top 16s at Starcity.


I can tell you that I don't spend more than the average drafter. Like never bought cards for a standard deck and borrowed when I needed to. Budget is more manageable than people think. I don't stick closely to cards, but I do pay attention to what is being played which is one of the reason I can fund an Esper deck just from 1 box of ISD and weekly drafts (my store doesn't do standard at FMN).

My advice for those looking to play standard after rotation. Pick up shocklands after DGM releases, they're going to be as low as they possibly can. There's nothing wrong with what you said or anything, but really guys, it's not like trading on the floor of the NYSE. It really is just pay attention to certain cards that you see in standard tourneys.

Guildgates won't, Keyrunes maybe.
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#6970
On April 14 2013 12:44 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 12:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 14 2013 11:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.


Yea it happens. It's nothing to get mad about. I find Magic is sort of this Zen thing with me. I tend to make better plays and my deck seems to reward my more laid back approach. i know the deck doesn't literally reward me, but the ability to just accept it and move on instead of get frustrated and go on tilt like i used to do has really shown in my recent magic adventures.

Also it's a lot more fun when you an candidly talk with an opponent after a game instead of them being super pissed they got mana flooded.

Another thing Judicator, I would love to play the aristocrats deck, but with Dragon's Maze coming soon and funds being an issue I just play budget fun decks that are similar to standard decks that fit my store format. Like honestly I would probably be playing BW zombies if I wasn't playing this. I love this game and even if I don't win all the time I would rather play and lose than not play at all you know? MTG and LoL are like my new BW. Something I can go to when I'm depressed or mad and just relax and play or deck build or something. I think I get more out of the quirks of deck building than I do the game itself. I honestly think I play just to see if crazy stuff can win games. Like my RWB tokens list when lingering souls and hellrider were first printed, or the Awakening Zone/Furnace Celebration "combo" in scars/Zendikar. Maybe I'm writing a bit too much and getting too gushy about this, but in my first two events with this deck after not playing Standard since ravnica was released, it feels good to play with people like Musser, Kovacs, and the Gearharts and still compete even with my budget deck. Like this guy was in top 16 with this crazy BG Slitherhead, Lotleth troll, Predator ooze deck and that's the kind of stuff I love to see. People who give zero shits about the meta, play what they think is fun and win anyways. Now I'm rambling and just talking about stuff I've probably already said but whatever I guess.



Now back to Actual card discussion. My friends and I were thinking of post-Innistrad Standard without this smooth mana and do you guys think Guildgates or keyrunes will see play when 2014 comes out? Especially if they don't reprint the tap lands, or do something crazy like reprint Onslaught/Zendikar fetches in a core set.


Edit: as I say I would play BW zombies, a list top 16s at Starcity.


I can tell you that I don't spend more than the average drafter. Like never bought cards for a standard deck and borrowed when I needed to. Budget is more manageable than people think. I don't stick closely to cards, but I do pay attention to what is being played which is one of the reason I can fund an Esper deck just from 1 box of ISD and weekly drafts (my store doesn't do standard at FMN).

My advice for those looking to play standard after rotation. Pick up shocklands after DGM releases, they're going to be as low as they possibly can. There's nothing wrong with what you said or anything, but really guys, it's not like trading on the floor of the NYSE. It really is just pay attention to certain cards that you see in standard tourneys.

Guildgates won't, Keyrunes maybe.



If I had a job, this wouldnt be an issue. I would totally have all 40 shocks and be drafting and trading for whatever else I needed. But I've also had to pitch a $700 modern deck and same-ish legacy deck to pay rent. It doesn't feel good at all. I play for fun until I get out of my parent's house that i recently moved back into and find a job that can sustain me. I played Zendikar/Scars standard off $50 into two event decks and whatever packs I won, and Scars/Innistrad of trades from that. I know how that goes, somethings in my past just didn't go the way I thought they would.

This is the same advice I gave my friend who is currently trying to get into magic.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 14 2013 04:06 GMT
#6971
On April 14 2013 12:54 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 12:44 Judicator wrote:
On April 14 2013 12:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 14 2013 11:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.


Yea it happens. It's nothing to get mad about. I find Magic is sort of this Zen thing with me. I tend to make better plays and my deck seems to reward my more laid back approach. i know the deck doesn't literally reward me, but the ability to just accept it and move on instead of get frustrated and go on tilt like i used to do has really shown in my recent magic adventures.

Also it's a lot more fun when you an candidly talk with an opponent after a game instead of them being super pissed they got mana flooded.

Another thing Judicator, I would love to play the aristocrats deck, but with Dragon's Maze coming soon and funds being an issue I just play budget fun decks that are similar to standard decks that fit my store format. Like honestly I would probably be playing BW zombies if I wasn't playing this. I love this game and even if I don't win all the time I would rather play and lose than not play at all you know? MTG and LoL are like my new BW. Something I can go to when I'm depressed or mad and just relax and play or deck build or something. I think I get more out of the quirks of deck building than I do the game itself. I honestly think I play just to see if crazy stuff can win games. Like my RWB tokens list when lingering souls and hellrider were first printed, or the Awakening Zone/Furnace Celebration "combo" in scars/Zendikar. Maybe I'm writing a bit too much and getting too gushy about this, but in my first two events with this deck after not playing Standard since ravnica was released, it feels good to play with people like Musser, Kovacs, and the Gearharts and still compete even with my budget deck. Like this guy was in top 16 with this crazy BG Slitherhead, Lotleth troll, Predator ooze deck and that's the kind of stuff I love to see. People who give zero shits about the meta, play what they think is fun and win anyways. Now I'm rambling and just talking about stuff I've probably already said but whatever I guess.



Now back to Actual card discussion. My friends and I were thinking of post-Innistrad Standard without this smooth mana and do you guys think Guildgates or keyrunes will see play when 2014 comes out? Especially if they don't reprint the tap lands, or do something crazy like reprint Onslaught/Zendikar fetches in a core set.


Edit: as I say I would play BW zombies, a list top 16s at Starcity.


I can tell you that I don't spend more than the average drafter. Like never bought cards for a standard deck and borrowed when I needed to. Budget is more manageable than people think. I don't stick closely to cards, but I do pay attention to what is being played which is one of the reason I can fund an Esper deck just from 1 box of ISD and weekly drafts (my store doesn't do standard at FMN).

My advice for those looking to play standard after rotation. Pick up shocklands after DGM releases, they're going to be as low as they possibly can. There's nothing wrong with what you said or anything, but really guys, it's not like trading on the floor of the NYSE. It really is just pay attention to certain cards that you see in standard tourneys.

Guildgates won't, Keyrunes maybe.



If I had a job, this wouldnt be an issue. I would totally have all 40 shocks and be drafting and trading for whatever else I needed. But I've also had to pitch a $700 modern deck and same-ish legacy deck to pay rent. It doesn't feel good at all. I play for fun until I get out of my parent's house that i recently moved back into and find a job that can sustain me. I played Zendikar/Scars standard off $50 into two event decks and whatever packs I won, and Scars/Innistrad of trades from that. I know how that goes, somethings in my past just didn't go the way I thought they would.

This is the same advice I gave my friend who is currently trying to get into magic.


Whelp, that's more of you shouldn't be playing magic right now more than anything. Play on MWS when you get the urge. Focus on other things. You shouldn't ever feel like you need to play Magic, that's not healthy, it's a game and it certainly shouldn't be causing stress once the game ends.

My friend had to pitch his powered cube to buy a house, stuff happens. No biggie.
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 14 2013 04:22 GMT
#6972
On April 14 2013 13:06 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 12:54 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 14 2013 12:44 Judicator wrote:
On April 14 2013 12:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 14 2013 11:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Only matches I've lost in the last 3 FNMs (1 a piece) were all to Naya/Boros blitz decks where I stumbled on mana. Last night, I had 7 lands, 2 Farseeks, and all 6 of my mana dorks in play or in the graveyard, with only the Thragtusk and Smiter in my opening hand as non-mana sources. It happens, though.

At least I got to Aurelia's Fury a couple of people out, it felt great.


Yea it happens. It's nothing to get mad about. I find Magic is sort of this Zen thing with me. I tend to make better plays and my deck seems to reward my more laid back approach. i know the deck doesn't literally reward me, but the ability to just accept it and move on instead of get frustrated and go on tilt like i used to do has really shown in my recent magic adventures.

Also it's a lot more fun when you an candidly talk with an opponent after a game instead of them being super pissed they got mana flooded.

Another thing Judicator, I would love to play the aristocrats deck, but with Dragon's Maze coming soon and funds being an issue I just play budget fun decks that are similar to standard decks that fit my store format. Like honestly I would probably be playing BW zombies if I wasn't playing this. I love this game and even if I don't win all the time I would rather play and lose than not play at all you know? MTG and LoL are like my new BW. Something I can go to when I'm depressed or mad and just relax and play or deck build or something. I think I get more out of the quirks of deck building than I do the game itself. I honestly think I play just to see if crazy stuff can win games. Like my RWB tokens list when lingering souls and hellrider were first printed, or the Awakening Zone/Furnace Celebration "combo" in scars/Zendikar. Maybe I'm writing a bit too much and getting too gushy about this, but in my first two events with this deck after not playing Standard since ravnica was released, it feels good to play with people like Musser, Kovacs, and the Gearharts and still compete even with my budget deck. Like this guy was in top 16 with this crazy BG Slitherhead, Lotleth troll, Predator ooze deck and that's the kind of stuff I love to see. People who give zero shits about the meta, play what they think is fun and win anyways. Now I'm rambling and just talking about stuff I've probably already said but whatever I guess.



Now back to Actual card discussion. My friends and I were thinking of post-Innistrad Standard without this smooth mana and do you guys think Guildgates or keyrunes will see play when 2014 comes out? Especially if they don't reprint the tap lands, or do something crazy like reprint Onslaught/Zendikar fetches in a core set.


Edit: as I say I would play BW zombies, a list top 16s at Starcity.


I can tell you that I don't spend more than the average drafter. Like never bought cards for a standard deck and borrowed when I needed to. Budget is more manageable than people think. I don't stick closely to cards, but I do pay attention to what is being played which is one of the reason I can fund an Esper deck just from 1 box of ISD and weekly drafts (my store doesn't do standard at FMN).

My advice for those looking to play standard after rotation. Pick up shocklands after DGM releases, they're going to be as low as they possibly can. There's nothing wrong with what you said or anything, but really guys, it's not like trading on the floor of the NYSE. It really is just pay attention to certain cards that you see in standard tourneys.

Guildgates won't, Keyrunes maybe.



If I had a job, this wouldnt be an issue. I would totally have all 40 shocks and be drafting and trading for whatever else I needed. But I've also had to pitch a $700 modern deck and same-ish legacy deck to pay rent. It doesn't feel good at all. I play for fun until I get out of my parent's house that i recently moved back into and find a job that can sustain me. I played Zendikar/Scars standard off $50 into two event decks and whatever packs I won, and Scars/Innistrad of trades from that. I know how that goes, somethings in my past just didn't go the way I thought they would.

This is the same advice I gave my friend who is currently trying to get into magic.


Whelp, that's more of you shouldn't be playing magic right now more than anything. Play on MWS when you get the urge. Focus on other things. You shouldn't ever feel like you need to play Magic, that's not healthy, it's a game and it certainly shouldn't be causing stress once the game ends.

My friend had to pitch his powered cube to buy a house, stuff happens. No biggie.



Nah it's not that I shouldn't it was just an eye opener that I wasn't responsible. Being a full time student and trying to fend for yourself and play magic wasn't a thing. And yes, it is something I need. That or something else like bowling or football was to me in high school. I get depressed really easily and the more often I do something like MTG or LoL or BW back in that day, the easier my life was all around.

I moved back home not because I personally couldn't afford it, I moved home because I couldnt afford to live at by myself and got to school full time. But like I said, I was irresponsible managing money and I got shit on for it, I learned and this is me trying to get back to where i was a year ago.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
April 14 2013 07:03 GMT
#6973
Curious question, on abilities like
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Nomads en-Kor&ref=hover

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Daru Spiritualist&ref=hover

If the original one is blocking some 4/4, can I trigger the redirect 4 times? Or is it just once?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 14 2013 10:39 GMT
#6974
On April 14 2013 16:03 Fawkes wrote:
Curious question, on abilities like
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Nomads en-Kor&ref=hover

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Daru Spiritualist&ref=hover

If the original one is blocking some 4/4, can I trigger the redirect 4 times? Or is it just once?

I assume you mean if you use Nomad en-Kor's ability and target a Cleric, does the 1 damage get redirected to a creature that is now getting +0/+2 at the same time? In which case yes. You can also activate the ability as many times as you want.

Note that the Oracle Text for the card is: The next 1 damage that would be dealt to Nomads en-Kor this turn is dealt to target creature you control instead. The ruling at the bottom of the link are also relevant.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 14 2013 19:19 GMT
#6975
Is Reid Duke the Keanu Reeves of Magic? I swear if I didn't have the video of SCG up, I would think Reeves would be the one doing some kind of promo for them.
Get it by your hands...
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
April 15 2013 13:47 GMT
#6976
Two more rares: Possibility Storm and Tajic, Blade of the Legion.

P-Storm means if you play a creature, you exile cards from your deck till you hit a creature, same with artifact, instant, sorcery, and enchantment, right?

Tajic looks pretty good. Shame he's a 4-drop, but understandable considering he's indestructible. I feel like that's exactly what Boros needs; after running my Boros deck a few times, the problem I had with it wasn't necessarily getting creatures out there, but retaining them on the board for more than a couple turns, lol. (something tells me he might make a decent candidate for an aggro Commander deck...)
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 15 2013 14:06 GMT
#6977
On April 15 2013 22:47 cLAN.Anax wrote:
P-Storm means if you play a creature, you exile cards from your deck till you hit a creature, same with artifact, instant, sorcery, and enchantment, right?

That seems to be the correct interpretation yes.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 14:20:29
April 15 2013 14:13 GMT
#6978
Possibility Storm Pillow Fort sounds fun. Now with Blind Obedience as a win condition.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 15 2013 14:46 GMT
#6979
Pillow Fort with a symmetric effect seems bad. This card is arguably worse than Knowledge Pool, since that card can actually lock the opponent out.
Get it by your hands...
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 14:56:24
April 15 2013 14:56 GMT
#6980
As stated in Cranial Insertion article, if you have Teferi in play you lock your opponent out of playing spells forever. But then it's not really a Standard-legal Pillow Fort any more. Cute interaction though.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Prev 1 347 348 349 350 351 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RushiSC 124
BRAT_OK 79
MindelVK 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15020
Zeus 56
Pusan 50
Free 29
Mong 28
zelot 21
Bale 10
Sacsri 9
Dota 2
420jenkins274
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2043
edward132
adren_tv107
kRYSTAL_52
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu215
Other Games
Grubby3489
Dendi717
Beastyqt694
C9.Mang0227
UpATreeSC67
Trikslyr61
Mew2King48
JuggernautJason24
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream218
StarCraft 2
angryscii 18
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota241
League of Legends
• TFBlade965
Other Games
• imaqtpie795
• Shiphtur381
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 3m
CrankTV Team League
16h 3m
Bombastic Starleague
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 15h
HomeStory Cup
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.