EPTPeople strive to fortify their weapons / armors to +12.
The problem is everytime you fail it decreases -1, taking up to 500,000,000 to get +12.
There are so many gold sinks in this game, be prepared to farm like crazy !
Tera MMORPG - Page 37
| Forum Index > General Games |
|
tylervoss4
182 Posts
People strive to fortify their weapons / armors to +12. The problem is everytime you fail it decreases -1, taking up to 500,000,000 to get +12. There are so many gold sinks in this game, be prepared to farm like crazy ! | ||
|
Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
On February 09 2012 02:12 tylervoss4 wrote: A wise man once told me in Ktera, this game is very very very item dependant. no matter how good your "control" is, it won't do much if your opponent is fully deked out with +9 ~ 12 gold armors. People strive to fortify their weapons / armors to +12. The problem is everytime you fail it decreases -1, taking up to 500,000,000 to get +12. There are so many gold sinks in this game, be prepared to farm like crazy ! Well, I never played, but most people that I talked to stated completly the opposite. They all told me that 1v1 pvp was not the focus of the game and that there was no fun or goal in it... that it was all about group vs group pvp, and that it was really fun and really not that item dependant. You just need not shabby gears to get started, like in every mmo. | ||
|
topoulo
253 Posts
Pvp is unbalance and non existand , there is zero skillcap in pvp as well all you do is try to avoid getting one shot , since melee will one shot you , if land their combo All spells so far are insta , which sucks but due to aim thing you cant rly expect to aim and cast spells , youll never hit any1 ( maybe there castable spells after ... just maybe ) If you annoying from bunny hopping in other mmos expect to be outrage from dodge hopping in this game. Tbh its just like Aoc , good on papaer but sucks in reality , at least from powergaming point of view. The other mmo aspects are seen it done it, outdated artistics , semi good visuals , awfull ui and questing , non existand pvp - pvp balance etc etc. Seems like L2 of some short clone , its not bad but is meh nonetheless | ||
|
CatalysT.
59 Posts
| ||
|
skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
| ||
|
SommieMK
Canada6 Posts
On February 09 2012 02:29 Xalorian wrote: Well, I never played, but most people that I talked to stated completly the opposite. They all told me that 1v1 pvp was not the focus of the game and that there was no fun or goal in it... that it was all about group vs group pvp, and that it was really fun and really not that item dependant. You just need not shabby gears to get started, like in every mmo. Yes 1vs1 PvP is almost non-existence, it's all about group PvP and guild wars. This game is item dependant but which MMO isn't item dependant? But it's actually not as item dependant as Xalorian said. The thing is, control is a BIG part of PvE (instances/dungeon/bosses). The bosses kill you in one hit so no matter how good your armor is, if you're hit, you're dead. The weapons and DPS are a different story since higher damage output means lesser time consumed to kill boss which means less risk of dying. No matter how good your gear is, even with +12 full armor and weapon, if you don't have good controls, you're not going to survive in dungeon bosses. That being said, it's a different story for PvP. Yes, PvP is very item dependent but like I've said, 1vs1 is almost non-existence, PvP in Tera is all about group PvP and guild wars and that requires co-ordinations between team members. A very well co-ordinated group can win vs a semi-co-ordinated group with much better gears. But all in all gears do play a big part in PvP more than PvE. | ||
|
DCRed
Finland435 Posts
Archer feels really fun to play, usually I prefer melee classes but the two hander classes felt very slow and I found myself playing archer more than anything really. Aiming yourself, no pet and the combat system really makes it fun to be archer for once. | ||
|
nehcnhoj
United States213 Posts
Thanks. | ||
|
Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
| ||
|
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On February 08 2012 22:49 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Potentially, archers and mages may be the WORST PvP classes if you suck. You can possibly miss everything. but if you are good and aim really well, the burst DPS i think is top notch.. Probably will be rolling an archer. I played tank in L2 and Aion but lancer pve looks painful... lol Btw, race i heard is important. I heard that human is a must on an archer because of knockback/stun resist and similar skill cds... apparently knockback and stuns are archers' bane.so yall study well beforehand and pick properly! archer will be one of the best pvp classes in the hands of a skilled player. any class can be the WORST if the player sucks. + Show Spoiler + On February 09 2012 02:33 topoulo wrote: Played it , its meh. Pvp is unbalance and non existand , there is zero skillcap in pvp as well all you do is try to avoid getting one shot , since melee will one shot you , if land their combo All spells so far are insta , which sucks but due to aim thing you cant rly expect to aim and cast spells , youll never hit any1 ( maybe there castable spells after ... just maybe ) If you annoying from bunny hopping in other mmos expect to be outrage from dodge hopping in this game. Tbh its just like Aoc , good on papaer but sucks in reality , at least from powergaming point of view. The other mmo aspects are seen it done it, outdated artistics , semi good visuals , awfull ui and questing , non existand pvp - pvp balance etc etc. Seems like L2 of some short clone , its not bad but is meh nonetheless hehe this is exactly why i know i will like this game. i love bunny hopping/dodging madness. love pissing people off by kiting or dodging. | ||
|
Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
| ||
|
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
| ||
|
Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:55 Golgotha wrote: guys i have a question. if we get into closed beta via the ign thing, do we get access to ALL the closed betas? no, just the first weekend so far, maybe IGN will do more. http://login.ign.com/prime/promos/Tera/ it says under "GET MY BETA KEY". I'll be playing a lot this weekend too if anyone wants to party | ||
|
tylervoss4
182 Posts
On February 09 2012 02:33 topoulo wrote: Played it , its meh. Pvp is unbalance and non existand , there is zero skillcap in pvp as well all you do is try to avoid getting one shot , since melee will one shot you , if land their combo All spells so far are insta , which sucks but due to aim thing you cant rly expect to aim and cast spells , youll never hit any1 ( maybe there castable spells after ... just maybe ) If you annoying from bunny hopping in other mmos expect to be outrage from dodge hopping in this game. Tbh its just like Aoc , good on papaer but sucks in reality , at least from powergaming point of view. The other mmo aspects are seen it done it, outdated artistics , semi good visuals , awfull ui and questing , non existand pvp - pvp balance etc etc. Seems like L2 of some short clone , its not bad but is meh nonetheless lol name me a "balanced" pvp in your definitino. Every game balances itself out because your playing against people of same class. normally you go againts healer tank dps anyways, which would be any pro team setup. | ||
|
tylervoss4
182 Posts
On February 09 2012 02:29 Xalorian wrote: Well, I never played, but most people that I talked to stated completly the opposite. They all told me that 1v1 pvp was not the focus of the game and that there was no fun or goal in it... that it was all about group vs group pvp, and that it was really fun and really not that item dependant. You just need not shabby gears to get started, like in every mmo. for example, an archer with +9 weapon will do 5% of damage to berserker while +12 wepon can do 15% a hit. There is major major difference, especially when ciritical hits are involved. You can do up to 300,000k+ damage to monsters as well so item fortifications are key to fast PvE dungeons as well as dishing out big big damage in PvP. I agree 1v1 is not the most fun thing for anygame. It's not possible to balance 1v1. But in 5v5 it balances itself out because you are playing againts your own class for the most of the time. with compositions like healer + 2 meele dps + 1 range dps + tank | ||
|
Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On February 09 2012 05:27 tylervoss4 wrote: lol name me a "balanced" pvp in your definitino. Every game balances itself out because your playing against people of same class. normally you go againts healer tank dps anyways, which would be any pro team setup. I don't think topoula understands what a beta testing is. Clearly he has written this game off already and is looking for the next MMO to butcher and bash. Any decent person knows that there is a 1-2 month period after the ACTUAL release where people can finally tell if its going to be a good or bad game for them. To come into the mindset of the first beta testing with 3 months left to change things is a completely terrible idea and is frankly the bane of current MMO gamers. If you don't like the fundmentals of the game obiviously that is different because then you won't like anything good they do either but give it a chance at least, wait and see some of the changes first then make an assumption. EDIT: Just to add one more thing, hopefully topoula can answer this. How is it that you're able to comment on PvP blance already anyways. What level are you? I don't see how it's possible that you are max level and tried out all the means to the game. The idea of basing a games balance off the first 20 levels is the worst fucking idea ever, there are still so many skills left that characters will get. This just brings me back to when I first started to play Aion and the boards were freaking the fuck out because at level 20 Glads were dying to archers really fast but at level 50 Glads were shitting on archers. Dozens of people were proclaiming they were leaving the game due to the heavy unrest they had with PvP blance at low levels. For any game people should wait to end game before making balance remarks becuase that is where most of the game will be played. Crying about balance at early levels is bullshit because how long will you stay there, 2-3 hours and you will have new skills in no time. | ||
|
Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On February 09 2012 05:31 tylervoss4 wrote: for example, an archer with +9 weapon will do 5% of damage to berserker while +12 wepon can do 15% a hit. There is major major difference, especially when ciritical hits are involved. You can do up to 300,000k+ damage to monsters as well so item fortifications are key to fast PvE dungeons as well as dishing out big big damage in PvP. I agree 1v1 is not the most fun thing for anygame. It's not possible to balance 1v1. But in 5v5 it balances itself out because you are playing againts your own class for the most of the time. with compositions like healer + 2 meele dps + 1 range dps + tank Well put. While balancing 1v1 would be ideal and nice, it is impossible to do so. The idea of perfectly leveling off a tank to a preist to a mage to an archer, so they all have exactly the same chance of killing each other 1v1 will not happen. There will always be small things that a certain class a better chance verus another one. Companies should be looking at the larger picture and understanding that group battles should be looked at for balancing the game because this is where the game will end up being. | ||
|
topoulo
253 Posts
On February 09 2012 05:34 Shelke14 wrote: I don't think topoula understands what a beta testing is. Clearly he has written this game off already and is looking for the next MMO to butcher and bash. Any decent person knows that there is a 1-2 month period after the ACTUAL release where people can finally tell if its going to be a good or bad game for them. To come into the mindset of the first beta testing with 3 months left to change things is a completely terrible idea and is frankly the bane of current MMO gamers. If you don't like the fundmentals of the game obiviously that is different because then you won't like anything good they do either but give it a chance at least, wait and see some of the changes first then make an assumption. Be-Ta test A trial of machinery, software, or other products, in the final stages of its development, carried out by a party unconnected with its development Spare me with your theorycrafting , keep it to your self rly. Ive done more beta testing than any1 here since i have like 15 years of mmo experience , im very aware of what beta test is . Just because my opinion for this game is different than yours doesnt mean that you have the right to patronise me and such so spare me rly. This game has no future terms of pvp or anything , there you go ive said it , find me after 2-3 months and tell me i told you so , i wont even bother with the details. For the record is a l2 ripoff. Chances are , if you liked lineage - aion and such you like this one too but dont expect anything revolutionary. If yu also liking endless grind old school mmo then you ll prolly like this as well As for the combat good on paper bad in reality gl pull combos and such and have a high skill cap in pvp. Regardless thats my opinion solely and if none likes it i dont rly care tbh | ||
|
Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On February 09 2012 05:41 topoulo wrote: Be-Ta test A trial of machinery, software, or other products, in the final stages of its development, carried out by a party unconnected with its development Spare me with your theorycrafting , keep it to your self rly. Ive done more beta testing than any1 here since i have like 15 years of mmo experience , im very aware of what beta test is . Just because my opinion for this game is different than yours doesnt mean that you have the right to patronise me and such so spare me rly. This game has no future terms of pvp or anything , there you go ive said it , find me after 2-3 months and tell me i told you so , i wont even bother with the details. For the record is a l2 ripoff. Chances are , if you liked lineage - aion and such you like this one too but dont expect anything revolutionary. If yu also liking endless grind old school mmo then you ll prolly like this as well As for the combat good on paper bad in reality gl pull combos and such and have a high skill cap in pvp. Regardless thats my opinion solely and if none likes it i dont rly care tbh You may be right, I am not saying that this game is the be all end all either. I am merely stating that coming onto teamliquid and giving it the disapproval of topoulo with only having less than a week of beta testing is bullshit. All you sound like is one of the run of the mill MMO gamers who jump from MMO to MMO getting into the beta tests, crying about how much the game sucks on the boards even before it is released and then moving onto the next one. It makes me sick because it is this ideal mindset that has developed in modern gamers that is making the MMORPG community utter shit. | ||
|
Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
Just to add one more thing, hopefully topoula can answer this. How is it that you're able to comment on PvP blance already anyways. What level are you? I don't see how it's possible that you are max level and tried out all the means to the game. The idea of basing a games balance off the first 20 levels is the worst fucking idea ever, there are still so many skills left that characters will get. This just brings me back to when I first started to play Aion and the boards were freaking the fuck out because at level 20 Glads were dying to archers really fast but at level 50 Glads were shitting on archers. Dozens of people were proclaiming they were leaving the game due to the heavy unrest they had with PvP blance at low levels. For any game people should wait to end game before making balance remarks becuase that is where most of the game will be played. Crying about balance at early levels is bullshit because how long will you stay there, 2-3 hours and you will have new skills in no time. | ||
| ||
