Tera MMORPG - Page 25

On January 16 2012 19:22 HardMacro wrote:


Mhmm, lack of clothing in the form of nakedness from the waist down tend to do that;)

On January 19 2012 17:12 Boblhead wrote:

It will be just like l2, free ganking unless your on the pazy pve server ^^

On January 19 2012 19:05 Necrophantasia wrote:


Unless there is a rule change between kterra/jterra and us Tera there will probably be no free ganking.
There is still a significant PvE component to Tera and grouping is quite important.

Why dungeon finder kills games?

It's not that screaming for party members is particularly fun (in fact, it sucks balls), it's that it gave people an incentive to meet people. It gave people reason to use their friends list to find other like minded players to play with. Dungeons give people reason to talk and meet, and that's how server communities are built. People become well known through interactions and server storylines are born. Wow at it's inception up till the end of wotlk had extremely active realm forums. Because people wanted to talk to each other and they interacted in-game. Now? Good like finding anything. Even the most populated servers have no one posting.

More importantly, the dungeon finder killed any sort of community. You get thrown in a group with 4 randoms. In the short run, you get your stuff done faster and you gear up. Cool. In the long run, people no longer bother to make connections. You are doing dungeons with 4 people you will never see again. Why bother to even talk? In fact why even bother to be nice? Just ninja your shit and move on. There's no reputation to worry about, they're not even from your server!

The dungeon finder is far easier than any sort of social interaction and gamers always take the path of least resistance to the best gear. End result? Death of community. No one bothers to do anything in the game world because they can teleport to dungeon. No one bothers to talk or to make friends. The behavior of the community is in decline because there are no consequences for anything. Guilds which were previously kept together by raids are now falling apart all over the place because of the group finder.

Tl:dr. Why compromise and have to deal with real people when you can just queue and act like an asshat and do whatever you want? Dungeon finder lets you skip the humans. Fun in the short run, but it becomes a very solitary mmo.

On January 20 2012 00:57 Velocirapture wrote:
The LFD queue from both WoW and Rift are non-intuitive lessons learned. The idea that they ruined the game is nonsense (id say that even though the game has huge subscribership and a turnover anybody would expect from such an old game, if you wanted to blame a toll for breakeing WoW communities it would be GearScore) but people did hate the queue.

Here is the thing, the scale looks like this.....

[--------liked-------------][----------meh--------][---------disliked---------(xServerQueue)--(inServerQueue)--(noQueue)---]

Rift went through this exact process of deduction. They were hesitant to put in a clearly disliked feature so they went with in server queue. In server queue drove up use of all instanced material like crazy until the wait times for DPS were crazy (like 40 mins) and there was outrage so they put in cross server queue.

Long story short, LFD tools are one of those things we hate to have but hate even more to not have.

Page 13, E: The Conception and Formation of Defendant Bluehole

Throughout the developement of Lineage 3, Yong-Hyun Park ("Park"), the head of the project, repeatedly expressed to the company management dissatisfaction with his compensation. Although he was already one of the highest paid employees of the company, Park was of the opinion that he should receive additional salary as well as an equity interest in the future profits from L3. NCSoft management disagreed, believing that Park's compensation already generous by comparison with his peers both at NCSoft and at the competing Korean video game companies.

Unsatisfied with that response, Park began secret discussions with the other key managers from the L2 and L3 teams about leaving NCSoft, forming a new video game company, luring away the L3 development team, and using NCSoft's proprietary information to complete and launch, in effect, the same game they had been developing at NCSoft, while reaping a greater share of the profits for themselves. Park and the other managers entered into negotiations with potential third-party investors, to whom they disclosed NCSoft proprietary information about L3. After first failing to secure investment from a major Japanese competitor, the conspirators obtained backing from a wealthy individual.

The conspirators also were busy persuading many other L3 team members to resign collectively and join them in a new Korean game developer company -- an event referred to by Park as "D-Day". To that end, they so far as holding a meeting in a conference room of NCSoft to entice employees to join with them. Soon after, NCSoft became aware of this event and swiftly discharged Park and the other managers from their roles.

By that time, however, the damage was done. By March 2007, the efforts of Park and others proved successful - 48 of the more than 100 L3 team members left NCSoft to join the newly formed Bluehole. These individuals were selected based on their level of knowledge and information related to the L3 project and included game designers, programmers, and graphic artists. They were lured to Bluehole with attractive compensation packages that had been put together using confidential payroll and other personnel information taken from NCSoft.

But the theft of proprietary information did not end there. As set forth in detail below, before departing NCSoft, Park and the other former managers and L3 team members systematically stole substantial quantities of valuable NCSoft technical trade secrets and other proprietary information related to the L3 game itself. Around the same time, NCSoft discovered the concerted theft through its internal investigation.

On January 27 2012 12:29 FinestHour wrote:
What the fuck....

On January 27 2012 12:51 FinestHour wrote:
Im just really disappointed by the possibility that the game might not be released, was so looking forward to this to sate my mmo desire

On January 27 2012 13:09 Gao Xi wrote:
Wow you cannot be serious. Not sure if im a fan but i was hoping to play this as it looked good. zzz

On January 27 2012 12:18 Candadar wrote:
So NCSoft is taking Bluehole to court, potentially delaying the American release of the game.

tsi.brooklaw.edu/sites/tsi.brooklaw.edu/files/filings/ncsoft-corporation-et-al-v-bluehole-studio-inc-et-al/20120109ncsoft-corporation-et-al-v-bluehole-studio-inc-et-alcomplaint.pdf



The ramifications for this for TERA fans is pretty big. Best case? Tera, in the West, is delayed a pretty damn long time because of all this stuff and more corporate squabbling. Worst case? Tera isn't allowed to be sold in the West at all. However, if what NCSoft claims to be true -- I can't help but support them in this case.