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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 04 2013 19:59 GMT
#3361
Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the end-game appealing at all...
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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#3362
It's not just you. Basically the lack of good end-game content is why Tera has pretty much failed everywhere, including Korea.
One year ago PvE end game content were 2-3 instances to farm T13 equip. One year later it's 2-3 different instances to farm T14 equip. That's it.
There're 10 and 20 man raids coming though, but the first one is just bigger Kelsaik.
So yeah, unless you're in love with battle system and game's setting, Tera has nothing to offer at level 60. Maybe 1-2 weeks of fun while instances will be "fresh", after that it's all about repeating same things over and over again. It's like that in every game though.

PvP is even worse though. I don't know if people are aware about fact, that before western release Tera didn't had any pvp at all. Technically it was there, but it more like duels v2.0.
OwPvP is not rewarding, there's no loss or gain for it. And at level cap only place where you can catch people is dailies zones. Everyone else sitting at safe zones or doing instances.
BGs are far from balanced and because matching sucks, often it's 20v10 or 15vs10 and not intended 15v15.
3v3 is ok, but gets old pretty fast too.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 04 2013 21:32 GMT
#3363
Hmm.... is there any indication that there will be tier 15 items? I've heard of it here and there. If so, I probably won't even try to enchant a +12 Tier 14.
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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 04 2013 21:47 GMT
#3364
There some rumors about T15, but so far nothing on sight. Korean 20 main Kelsaik drop T14, which is between Conjunct and VM PvP stats wise. So I'd assume other 2 raids will have T14 stuff as well.
And new PvP content in KTera have new rings (and something else, forgot what, maybe earrings) which is better than BG ones.
Anyway, +12 is not that hard to get. VM gear is much worse, so I'm not sure if I'll bother with it.
carmon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 23:55:34
April 04 2013 23:05 GMT
#3365
On April 05 2013 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the end-game appealing at all...


Not just you, my entire guild and I quit weeks before the f2p patch hit, after getting +12 conjunct and doing q
ueen there really isn't much to do. End game content is pretty much nexus, instanced pvp, instanced pve. Once you complete the most daunting task in each category which is the gear grind basically there isn't much left to dos its just repeating the same monotonous thing and for no reason anymore. The most promising and redeeming quality is the open world pvp but since the game revolves around instanced everything more likely than not you won't find any open world action unless you like killing people you outgear severely. Mass pvp was a joke because of server instability and its probably 10x worse now that its f2p since there is a higher concentration of players with the same shit servers, so that pretty much leaves you with nothing to do once you are done with the grind. Of course you can always socialize or build a reputation ingame, like being at the top of the pvp leaderboards however the magic that comes with this pretige runs out fast, but as for content and the game itself that's all there is to it a gear continuous gear chase and really nothing to do in between the release of new items.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 05 2013 01:39 GMT
#3366
On April 05 2013 08:05 carmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the end-game appealing at all...


Not just you, my entire guild and I quit weeks before the f2p patch hit, after getting +12 conjunct and doing q
ueen there really isn't much to do. End game content is pretty much nexus, instanced pvp, instanced pve. Once you complete the most daunting task in each category which is the gear grind basically there isn't much left to dos its just repeating the same monotonous thing and for no reason anymore. The most promising and redeeming quality is the open world pvp but since the game revolves around instanced everything more likely than not you won't find any open world action unless you like killing people you outgear severely. Mass pvp was a joke because of server instability and its probably 10x worse now that its f2p since there is a higher concentration of players with the same shit servers, so that pretty much leaves you with nothing to do once you are done with the grind. Of course you can always socialize or build a reputation ingame, like being at the top of the pvp leaderboards however the magic that comes with this pretige runs out fast, but as for content and the game itself that's all there is to it a gear continuous gear chase and really nothing to do in between the release of new items.


I think the problem is that pre-60 I never had to spend effort to get gear or glyphs. Now I do and I am not ready for it. I guess this is just design failure.

If I had to stop several times during pre-60 just to find/craft gears, I would have found this game far more enjoyable post-60, I think.
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carmon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 03:09:52
April 05 2013 03:06 GMT
#3367
On April 05 2013 10:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 08:05 carmon wrote:
On April 05 2013 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the end-game appealing at all...


Not just you, my entire guild and I quit weeks before the f2p patch hit, after getting +12 conjunct and doing q
ueen there really isn't much to do. End game content is pretty much nexus, instanced pvp, instanced pve. Once you complete the most daunting task in each category which is the gear grind basically there isn't much left to dos its just repeating the same monotonous thing and for no reason anymore. The most promising and redeeming quality is the open world pvp but since the game revolves around instanced everything more likely than not you won't find any open world action unless you like killing people you outgear severely. Mass pvp was a joke because of server instability and its probably 10x worse now that its f2p since there is a higher concentration of players with the same shit servers, so that pretty much leaves you with nothing to do once you are done with the grind. Of course you can always socialize or build a reputation ingame, like being at the top of the pvp leaderboards however the magic that comes with this pretige runs out fast, but as for content and the game itself that's all there is to it a gear continuous gear chase and really nothing to do in between the release of new items.


I think the problem is that pre-60 I never had to spend effort to get gear or glyphs. Now I do and I am not ready for it. I guess this is just design failure.

If I had to stop several times during pre-60 just to find/craft gears, I would have found this game far more enjoyable post-60, I think.


The game was just developed like that, each time new gear is released it succeeds the amount of effort it would require to obtain the old gear while the dated equipment gets dramatically reduced in effort to obtain, it is in fact a never ending cycle. I haven't played many mmo's so I don't know if this is the norm but once we got to end game and came to the realization that our efforts would be reduced to nothing in a couple patches we just agreed it be better to part ways with the game. Aside from the combat system this game doesn't have much else going for it.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
April 05 2013 04:21 GMT
#3368
What are your guys's thoughts on Tera's endgame versus WoW or even Guild Wars? I personally enjoyed BGs and arena in Wow, so I'm hoping there is actually something for me to experience in Tera ever since I quit Wow.
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 05 2013 05:54 GMT
#3369
On April 05 2013 13:21 Resisty wrote:
What are your guys's thoughts on Tera's endgame versus WoW or even Guild Wars? I personally enjoyed BGs and arena in Wow, so I'm hoping there is actually something for me to experience in Tera ever since I quit Wow.


I'd say it's probably not that different from Guild War end-game, based on my experience with GW vanilla, because it seems to me that in TERA all gears are created equally (no random rolls/properties like in Diablo), and the players achieve these gears incrementally. The PvP stuff seem similar too except the size of the parties, and the end-game PvE offers quite a few very difficult dungeons.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 07:19:39
April 05 2013 07:19 GMT
#3370
I have to say, the new maid costumes look really cute. But 30 dollars is a bit too steep for me so I will pass.

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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 05 2013 07:32 GMT
#3371
That's what happens when gamers scream "shut up and take my money" for a few months about some item (maid outfits in our case).
They see demand - the push price to it's limits. I'll buy one with gold probably, but in a few days when prices will go down a bit.
nota
Profile Joined May 2010
United States231 Posts
April 05 2013 09:09 GMT
#3372
On April 05 2013 13:21 Resisty wrote:
What are your guys's thoughts on Tera's endgame versus WoW or even Guild Wars? I personally enjoyed BGs and arena in Wow, so I'm hoping there is actually something for me to experience in Tera ever since I quit Wow.

I played wow's endgame from vanilla through wotlk, and I can say that its about 100x better than tera's. I didnt play the original guild wars, but guild wars 2 endgame was non-existent, I think I quit it in a month.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 02:45:36
April 06 2013 02:42 GMT
#3373
Whoot #1 ranked in EBG on Celestial Hills. Stupid Soyz will perpetually prevent me from ever being #1 overall though.

On April 05 2013 06:47 TJ31 wrote:
There some rumors about T15, but so far nothing on sight. Korean 20 main Kelsaik drop T14, which is between Conjunct and VM PvP stats wise. So I'd assume other 2 raids will have T14 stuff as well.
And new PvP content in KTera have new rings (and something else, forgot what, maybe earrings) which is better than BG ones.
Anyway, +12 is not that hard to get. VM gear is much worse, so I'm not sure if I'll bother with it.


Ah dammit. I just got the full set of accessories for my Sorcerer too.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#3374
Can anyone send me some gold? It'll make my early levels a lot easier. I don't need too much, but anything up to 100g of donation would be really helpful.

Sufficiency on MT.
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Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 17:03:07
April 06 2013 17:02 GMT
#3375
The auction house is actually surprisingly easy to play in Tera compared to WoW/GW2. From the first week I started playing, I made around 5k gold in maybe 3/4 hours going in with just 20g or so. My server was created shortly before I started playing which might have had something to do with it though, all the prices were a mess. Those pots that restore your stamina were in the sell history going for between 5g to 150g each.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
April 07 2013 20:27 GMT
#3376
I like Teras end game better than both WoW and Aion, can't speak to guild wars as I haven't played the end game. It is a lot like Aion, but with better combat and way less grindy
Julyzerg ftw
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 08 2013 07:01 GMT
#3377
Apparently I can server transfer at level 40. I'm an archer, and while pve has been fun so far, the appeal of mmos for me have always been organized pvp (was gladiator back when I played wow). I would love to transfer to join the TL guild, but I'm a little worried about a pve server. How come you guys are on a pve server, or is it different from wow? (here they're called carebear servers).
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 08 2013 07:41 GMT
#3378
On April 08 2013 16:01 Sandster wrote:
Apparently I can server transfer at level 40. I'm an archer, and while pve has been fun so far, the appeal of mmos for me have always been organized pvp (was gladiator back when I played wow). I would love to transfer to join the TL guild, but I'm a little worried about a pve server. How come you guys are on a pve server, or is it different from wow? (here they're called carebear servers).

Pretty sure PvP servers have nothing to do with "organized PvP". Organized PvP is about Battleground, while PvP servers are really about open world PvP.

Plus you can open world PvP with guild wars, even on PvE servers.

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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 08 2013 07:55 GMT
#3379
I get that organized pvp and world pvp are different. I've just never been on a pve server before, and was wondering if tera handles it different than wow (where, with 2 factions, world pvp can be a big part of the game).

Not really sure how guild wars work - so you declare war on another guild and can kill their members anywhere outside of cities?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 08:07:27
April 08 2013 08:04 GMT
#3380
On April 08 2013 16:55 Sandster wrote:
I get that organized pvp and world pvp are different. I've just never been on a pve server before, and was wondering if tera handles it different than wow (where, with 2 factions, world pvp can be a big part of the game).

Not really sure how guild wars work - so you declare war on another guild and can kill their members anywhere outside of cities?


I could be wrong, but as far as I can tell, the only difference of PvE and PvP servers is OWPvP.

Tempest Reach's TL guild is huge, but there are very few actual TLers in it. MT's TL guild is a bit more "TL" but it's a very small guild with like 3 players.

Yea, GvG is basically you can kill any enemy guild members outside.
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