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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 19 2013 00:52 GMT
#3181
Got a level 18 lancer on Lake of Tears now, hope I can start doing some dungeons tomorrow.


Name's Eimear, if anyone wants to do some dungeons, or has a nice guild or something
I'm from EU, but my work hours are all over the place, so the times i'm on are pretty random too
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
February 19 2013 04:24 GMT
#3182
Remember Vote Liquid On Tempest for Vanarch we can use your support guys
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carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
February 19 2013 04:28 GMT
#3183
Grind? What's all this talk about a grind? There's only one true gap in leveling left in the game now, and that's at around level 53-54 when there's a huge increase in regular mobs' base HP. It took me five days to get lancer from 1-60 playing a lot, and a week and a half to get slayer from 1-60 playing casually.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
February 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#3184
I find that interesting as I've been playing casually for a month and am only level 26.
Never make a hydralisk.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 19 2013 04:43 GMT
#3185
ive been playing a decent amount and im 35, is there a way to check hours played?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
February 19 2013 04:44 GMT
#3186
On February 19 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
ive been playing a decent amount and im 35, is there a way to check hours played?


Mouse over the time/FPS in the bottom right hand corner.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
February 19 2013 04:48 GMT
#3187
On February 19 2013 05:54 Laneir wrote:
The grind hits when u go from lvl 30-60 lol have fun guys


Leveling in TERA is pretty fast, especially in the NA/EU version. EME bumped the quest XP significantly compared to the Korean verison. I think if the only MMORPG you have played prior to TERA was WoW, then yes, it probably is more grindy. But, between a massive number of quests, open world repeats, dungeons quests/repeats etc. it's fast. The only time I would say it slows down a little is ~52-53 where the mobs suddenly get much more health and hit harder.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
February 19 2013 08:41 GMT
#3188
I've been playing around with alchemy extraction and I've noticed it only gives me the same material (and it's largely useless). Does it get better at higher levels of extraction (I'm only at level 6), or should I just abandon it now?

It seemed like a good alternative to just disposing of stuff you can't sell, but the scrolls are starting to cost more now, and the material I gain can't help me at all. So basically, does it get better or is this just a large oversight on their part?
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
February 19 2013 09:20 GMT
#3189
might try some tera sometime soon. Lol at people saying it is grindy. I am more inclined to believe the guy who says 5 days to max level if you put some serious playtime into it. But maybe after Ragnarok nothing is grindy any more.. Aion was barely grindy, a month or so for max level, whereas GW2 took 12 days, and it was my very first time playing the game, without info....but I guess I'll see. So server suggestions, and class suggestions if I want a good pvp char that can also be good solo pve but also a real asset in group pve? Does race really matter?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 09:33:10
February 19 2013 09:30 GMT
#3190
On February 19 2013 18:20 FireSA wrote:
might try some tera sometime soon. Lol at people saying it is grindy. I am more inclined to believe the guy who says 5 days to max level if you put some serious playtime into it. But maybe after Ragnarok nothing is grindy any more.. Aion was barely grindy, a month or so for max level, whereas GW2 took 12 days, and it was my very first time playing the game, without info....but I guess I'll see. So server suggestions, and class suggestions if I want a good pvp char that can also be good solo pve but also a real asset in group pve? Does race really matter?


So I'm a guy who played Tera around release for several months, tried during F2P trial month and then ultimately decided to quit. I think the game is too grindy, and so I decided against continuing. Just as a disclaimer, I'm not a person who hates grind, per se. I'm like the Monster Hunter type of player, who'll happily grind endlessly for a sidegrade (or downgrade) that looks cooler, or that sort of thing.

But I'm also the type of person who, especially in a game like Tera where I feel like the endgame is PvP, would rather "hit the endgame and then enjoy the game itself." For example, I'm fine with farming like 30k gold (which was at the time quite a bit) by doing boring bear grind runs, if it were to give me the best equipment, so that I can actually PvP on even ground.

'twas not to be.

Alas, you have this rather irritating ladder of endless grind to become/remain viable.

First you need to get semi-decent PvE gear, to grind more gear (if nothing else as upgrade fodder).

Then you need to grind (or get lucky as drops in a 3-times-per-day dungeon) battleground points, bearing in mind that your gear sucks ass so you'll basically do 10 damage to geared people and take 20,000 damage (no joke) in return, until you get the lowest tier of PvP equipment. Then you need to upgrade that shit. See step 1.

Then you need to grind both PvP and PvE, maxing out one of the PvE rep factions (which takes weeks - you can't really truncate this because you can only get rep points three times a day) until you can upgrade the lowest tier to the better one. Thankfully I hear they buffed this one so that you don't have another tier of PvP equipment...

... except that they just added another one, which is tied to your PvP rating in arena or something? So you can only get if you don't get your ass handed to you, which means you completed steps 1-3 and basically fully upgraded everything in order to have a chance against people who have the rating-based equipment and, in the case of true top-end players, even get a monstrous buff on top that increases their damage by like 50%!

Good luck.

Look, I have nothing against grind itself. I enjoy mindless grind sometimes, it's a relaxing "escape" of sorts. But that grind ladder was just mindboggling to me, and demanded an investment of both effort and time (because you need to commit to three runs per day for a few weeks to effectively get the equipment, unless you get lucky) that just isn't going to be there for someone who plays other games and has other things to do.




I got a Mystic and a Lancer to level 60 before they buffed Lancer leveling to not be as asinine. Solo, in both cases, although in the case of the Lancer I got a friend to help me out in the level 54-58 zone. And I had no problems doing that, because it was still faster than a lot of other games. That's not the type of grind that ultimately killed my motivation to play, though.
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
February 19 2013 10:10 GMT
#3191
I bought TERA during the 50% cheaper deal. They are still charging me monthly, even though it is f2p...

The bastards are clever though, cuz there's nowhere on either frogster or tera site where you can cancel your subscription. Since frogster are notorious for their crappy customer service, I asked paypal to block future transactions made by frogster. I e-mailed frogster aswell.
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:45:00
February 19 2013 11:49 GMT
#3192
On February 19 2013 18:30 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 18:20 FireSA wrote:
might try some tera sometime soon. Lol at people saying it is grindy. I am more inclined to believe the guy who says 5 days to max level if you put some serious playtime into it. But maybe after Ragnarok nothing is grindy any more.. Aion was barely grindy, a month or so for max level, whereas GW2 took 12 days, and it was my very first time playing the game, without info....but I guess I'll see. So server suggestions, and class suggestions if I want a good pvp char that can also be good solo pve but also a real asset in group pve? Does race really matter?


So I'm a guy who played Tera around release for several months, tried during F2P trial month and then ultimately decided to quit. I think the game is too grindy, and so I decided against continuing. Just as a disclaimer, I'm not a person who hates grind, per se. I'm like the Monster Hunter type of player, who'll happily grind endlessly for a sidegrade (or downgrade) that looks cooler, or that sort of thing.

But I'm also the type of person who, especially in a game like Tera where I feel like the endgame is PvP, would rather "hit the endgame and then enjoy the game itself." For example, I'm fine with farming like 30k gold (which was at the time quite a bit) by doing boring bear grind runs, if it were to give me the best equipment, so that I can actually PvP on even ground.

'twas not to be.

Alas, you have this rather irritating ladder of endless grind to become/remain viable.

First you need to get semi-decent PvE gear, to grind more gear (if nothing else as upgrade fodder).

Then you need to grind (or get lucky as drops in a 3-times-per-day dungeon) battleground points, bearing in mind that your gear sucks ass so you'll basically do 10 damage to geared people and take 20,000 damage (no joke) in return, until you get the lowest tier of PvP equipment. Then you need to upgrade that shit. See step 1.

Then you need to grind both PvP and PvE, maxing out one of the PvE rep factions (which takes weeks - you can't really truncate this because you can only get rep points three times a day) until you can upgrade the lowest tier to the better one. Thankfully I hear they buffed this one so that you don't have another tier of PvP equipment...

... except that they just added another one, which is tied to your PvP rating in arena or something? So you can only get if you don't get your ass handed to you, which means you completed steps 1-3 and basically fully upgraded everything in order to have a chance against people who have the rating-based equipment and, in the case of true top-end players, even get a monstrous buff on top that increases their damage by like 50%!

Good luck.

Look, I have nothing against grind itself. I enjoy mindless grind sometimes, it's a relaxing "escape" of sorts. But that grind ladder was just mindboggling to me, and demanded an investment of both effort and time (because you need to commit to three runs per day for a few weeks to effectively get the equipment, unless you get lucky) that just isn't going to be there for someone who plays other games and has other things to do.




I got a Mystic and a Lancer to level 60 before they buffed Lancer leveling to not be as asinine. Solo, in both cases, although in the case of the Lancer I got a friend to help me out in the level 54-58 zone. And I had no problems doing that, because it was still faster than a lot of other games. That's not the type of grind that ultimately killed my motivation to play, though.


A lot of your information is out of date in the current state of TERA NA.

Regarding Fraywind gear, it is ridiculously easy to obtain now than before. 2400 for weapon, 1500 for chest, 1000 for boots/gloves. Assuming you can win a third of the battleground games you play, you can average at the least 80 points per game which lasts about 15 minutes (both in completely one-sided and even games and say your contribution isn't maxed). From my recent experience, even the most gimp players I have seen participating in battlegrounds can maintain a 40 to 50% win rate.

Agnitor rep and credits... the credits is the real bottleneck now but even then they are more easily obtainable than before and with less time. Nexus happens twice a day, 5 days a week. You can get Revered within 1-2 weeks. Lets assume the following that you participate for one Nexus a day, 5 times a week, 1.2 hour commitment as that's the most it will take. During the portal closing event and assuming you miss the first phase which is reasonable considering the lag and amount of people out there, you can net at minimum 76 credits. There are 9 in ZF, 9 in Argonea (spelling?), 5 in Granarkus. Even if all three zones are being tackled at the start of the event, you can easily get in on 12 closings. Okay fine lets say about 800 credits just for the closing events, followed by 1 daily, and the repeatable for a total of about 1100. This value is still really low compared to what my friend gets a night after coming back very recently and he claims at the least 1800. Even then if you play very casually and not optimally you can still obtain these items compared to say if you played another game with the same amount of commitment.

Agnitor T14 gold weapon costs 5000 credits, Agnitor T14 armor costs much less but I forget the exact cost, one material to upgrade to Conjunct costs 5000 credits, Fraywind weapon costs 2400 battleground credits, battleground material to upgrade to Conjunct costs 2200 credits. Depending on what you want to obtain, how long does it take you to "grind" that? Not very long... It is definitely much easier to get what you want now than before. Costs just before the recent patch were for example 19500 for Agnitor weapon and 5000 for Fraywind weapon.

Regarding the Arena gear, it is not a 50% increase... even if that was sarcasm. This is probably the hardest to obtain as in my experience I've ran into full VM groups like nonstop (like 3 games haha). I've heard from others that they get gimps and stuff though so maybe I'm unlucky? 1200 can be doable for a lot of people but 1500 and above is another story. On another note, you do NOT need to maintain rating to keep your item.

The EXP grind from 51 to 58 wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I did this as a Priest who didn't know wtf was going on and just mindlessly quested. The only "grind" that exists is really for Visionmaker and Regent if you have bad luck?. Everything else is a joke, even more so if you purchase Elite perks or buy boosts from other players which are really cheap.

I guess you could say that enchanting and masterworking your items is a grind if you're unlucky like I was.

(edited in some small parts that I seem to have missed)

On February 19 2013 19:10 TOCHMY wrote:
I bought TERA during the 50% cheaper deal. They are still charging me monthly, even though it is f2p...

The bastards are clever though, cuz there's nowhere on either frogster or tera site where you can cancel your subscription. Since frogster are notorious for their crappy customer service, I asked paypal to block future transactions made by frogster. I e-mailed frogster aswell.


What? You just access your account page...
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Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
February 19 2013 12:00 GMT
#3193
so it seems to me that archer pve dmg is just non relevent? doing BAMs with friends (level 25-35) and the kill speed seems to be about the same weather im there or not (my charge skills take longer to charge and do 1/5th the dmg of our sorc) if i kite to tank for a bit before they start dpsing (so im the tank and they are just dps'ing, and they kill it substantally faster)

anyways, i really enjoy the archer and plan to play it anyways, just wondering when/if this changes, and archer does more close dmg to the aoe and single target of sorc? and yes i also have a 25 sorc :p not just being baised, we have timed all the kill speeds
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1nfamous
Profile Joined October 2009
107 Posts
February 19 2013 12:17 GMT
#3194
is there anyway to find out the level of a player who is offline and not on my friendslist?
/inspect playername works only for ppl who are online
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
February 19 2013 12:31 GMT
#3195

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 19:10 TOCHMY wrote:
I bought TERA during the 50% cheaper deal. They are still charging me monthly, even though it is f2p...

The bastards are clever though, cuz there's nowhere on either frogster or tera site where you can cancel your subscription. Since frogster are notorious for their crappy customer service, I asked paypal to block future transactions made by frogster. I e-mailed frogster aswell.


What? You just access your account page...


You don't think I tried that?

Its differend for you US kids who dont have to deal with the abomination that is frogster...
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 13:05:31
February 19 2013 13:05 GMT
#3196
On February 19 2013 21:17 1nfamous wrote:
is there anyway to find out the level of a player who is offline and not on my friendslist?
/inspect playername works only for ppl who are online


Not that I know of, you can check their level under your guild list provided they are in the same guild as you.
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
February 19 2013 16:54 GMT
#3197
On February 19 2013 21:31 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +

On February 19 2013 19:10 TOCHMY wrote:
I bought TERA during the 50% cheaper deal. They are still charging me monthly, even though it is f2p...

The bastards are clever though, cuz there's nowhere on either frogster or tera site where you can cancel your subscription. Since frogster are notorious for their crappy customer service, I asked paypal to block future transactions made by frogster. I e-mailed frogster aswell.


What? You just access your account page...


You don't think I tried that?

Its differend for you US kids who dont have to deal with the abomination that is frogster...


I'm not sure how exactly it works, but did the monthly subscription from when it was p2p transform into the TERA club stuff? You might be able to cancel it ingame if that is the case.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
February 19 2013 20:52 GMT
#3198
Lol i have to install it and cancel my sub ingame? Good job frogster...

Thanks for the tip man
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
February 20 2013 09:11 GMT
#3199
Tried MCHM for the first time yesterday. It was kinda brutal but the fight isn't really fundamentally different, so I'm hoping I can knock it out with my friends with enough attempts. Got 6 MCNM clears now, 5 ACHM clears, and I'm closing in on ilvl 160.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
February 20 2013 12:14 GMT
#3200
On February 19 2013 19:10 TOCHMY wrote:
I bought TERA during the 50% cheaper deal. They are still charging me monthly, even though it is f2p...

The bastards are clever though, cuz there's nowhere on either frogster or tera site where you can cancel your subscription. Since frogster are notorious for their crappy customer service, I asked paypal to block future transactions made by frogster. I e-mailed frogster aswell.


Status update on this.

Paypal has got to be the best bankservice in the world. 1 day after i filed a complaint they blocked frogster from taking money from me in the future as well as giving me a refund. LOL!
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
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