On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Have a Löwe myself, 100k net gain regularly seems off to me. If i'm not mistaken (i very well could be), netgain is after repairs/ammo/consumable cost. That alone brings you way below 100k.
Also i think these values are without premium, they actually seem pretty correct (as far as i can tell, i only have the Löwe and no other premium "moneymaker" tanks).
On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Have a Löwe myself, 100k net gain regularly seems off to me. If i'm not mistaken (i very well could be), netgain is after repairs/ammo/consumable cost. That alone brings you way below 100k.
Also i think these values are without premium, they actually seem pretty correct (as far as i can tell, i only have the Löwe and no other premium "moneymaker" tanks).
Regularly maybe a wrong wording. I think maybe 1 in 15 or so goes above 100k. My best was 140k I think but that was total, not net.
On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Have a Löwe myself, 100k net gain regularly seems off to me. If i'm not mistaken (i very well could be), netgain is after repairs/ammo/consumable cost. That alone brings you way below 100k.
Also i think these values are without premium, they actually seem pretty correct (as far as i can tell, i only have the Löwe and no other premium "moneymaker" tanks).
Regularly maybe a wrong wording. I think maybe 1 in 15 or so goes above 100k. My best was 140k I think but that was total, not net.
Maybe I'm underestimating the net vs total gain.
Maybe i'm overestimating it, coming to think of it, i never really had a game less than 60k on that tank, mostly around 70k (total). Take off 20k for ammo, hm.. Did they "nerf" the repaircosts on the löwe at some point (bought it when it came out)?
On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Have a Löwe myself, 100k net gain regularly seems off to me. If i'm not mistaken (i very well could be), netgain is after repairs/ammo/consumable cost. That alone brings you way below 100k.
Also i think these values are without premium, they actually seem pretty correct (as far as i can tell, i only have the Löwe and no other premium "moneymaker" tanks).
Regularly maybe a wrong wording. I think maybe 1 in 15 or so goes above 100k. My best was 140k I think but that was total, not net.
Maybe I'm underestimating the net vs total gain.
Maybe i'm overestimating it, coming to think of it, i never really had a game less than 60k on that tank, mostly around 70k (total). Take off 20k for ammo, hm.. Did they "nerf" the repaircosts on the löwe at some point (bought it when it came out)?
Anyway, it puts out bucketloads of credits. The normal earner tanks (kv's or something like that) is way way way slower in experience.
On May 24 2013 04:23 m4inbrain wrote: No. From experience, real scouting occurs at tier7+, and even then just occasional. But you don't really need a dedicated scout for stuff, you can give firesupport as soon as a firefight starts between two tanks (scouts only have a slightly higher viewrange than other tanks, their advantage is just being fast and small/decent camo). But you can't shoot across the map until tier4 (i think), before that you can only shoot halfway across the map. Real gameplay starts with tier5, i'd say, when people start to realize what their tanks can do and what not. When you get the hummel/m41 etc, basically.
American arty line has the best t7 arty (M40/43), the highest one, the t8 T92 has the biggest punch in the game, capable of oneshotting even (a couple of) t10 heavy tanks. Drawbacks are hilariously long reload (round about 45 seconds) and pretty underwhelming accuracy. Which doesn't really matter, since it also has the hugest splashradius - but doesn't really work out in public games. If you manage to die after a long game, your repair/ammo bill will be more than 50k per battle, it's hard even with premium to sustain it (one shell comes for 2,5k). That's why i used mine mostly in CWs.
I had fun with the american arties (have/had all of them), but it can be a bit frustrating at times. For beginners, i would always recommend german arty, they are the "jack of all trades". Decent accuracy, decent damage, decent mobility, best T5/T6 arty with hummel and gw panther, the only real drawback is the t7 gw tiger which has an incredibly small angle to fire in, so you have to turn the tank alot to aim - which you have to learn anyway.
Edit: american arties are fast in a straight line mostly. German arties are more mobile, they turn faster on the move and accelerate alot faster. GW Panther is the most mobile arty infgame i'd say, except maybe the t8 french one which is basically a medium tank with a huge long range autoreloader.
I have to pop in again due to another statement containing unreasonable superlatives.
I paste information from wiki.worldoftanks.eu. I highlighted all mobility values superior to the GW Panther ones.
AMX 13 F3 AM Mobility Speed Limit 60 km/h Traverse 24 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 14.99 hp/t
Lorraine155 50 Mobility Speed Limit 60 km/h Traverse 28 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 27.2 hp/t
Lorraine155 51 Mobility Speed Limit 60 km/h Traverse 27 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 26.81 hp/t
Bat Chatillon 155 Mobility Speed Limit 62 km/h Traverse 29 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 20.94 hp/t
Hummel Mobility Speed Limit 40 km/h Traverse 32 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 24.19 hp/t
GW Panther Mobility Speed Limit 48 km/h Traverse 28 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 16.16 hp/t
M41 Mobility Speed Limit 56 km/h Traverse 20 deg/s Power/Wt Ratio 15.77 hp/t
Both the Lorraine155 50 and the Bat Chatillon 155 are dominantly more mobile.
Yeah is quite funny when a french arty can outrun you in a Panther 2... Oh wait, it is not really funny XD
Quick question guys, my T-43 has 3 engines, i had the first and the third from my T-34-85, i can still research the second. I don't need though, as a better one is already installed. However, the second one is the basic engine for the T-44. Does it unlock automatically when i research the T-44, or do i have to research it for the T-43 seperately?
On May 28 2013 08:27 Broetchenholer wrote: Quick question guys, my T-43 has 3 engines, i had the first and the third from my T-34-85, i can still research the second. I don't need though, as a better one is already installed. However, the second one is the basic engine for the T-44. Does it unlock automatically when i research the T-44, or do i have to research it for the T-43 seperately?
When you unlock a vehicle, if the stock engine is the upgraded version of another tank, it will research the module for the previous tank. So it will unlock automatically.
On May 28 2013 08:27 Broetchenholer wrote: Quick question guys, my T-43 has 3 engines, i had the first and the third from my T-34-85, i can still research the second. I don't need though, as a better one is already installed. However, the second one is the basic engine for the T-44. Does it unlock automatically when i research the T-44, or do i have to research it for the T-43 seperately?
If you rightclick/characteristics the engine, it says they share it. So it will unlock for the T-43 if you unlock the T-44. Although i don't know why it is important. ^^
On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Net gain - what you made after you took away repairs, ammunition and consumables.
Gross gain - what you make before the former.
With the averages you gave out, it seems like you're running premium account. Remember that the average net gain i quoted has not paid any heed to premium account bonuses.
On May 27 2013 19:29 manloveman wrote: Lowe owner checking in.
The average net gain of 20k is sat really low. I make about 50-60k average, and have battles of 100k net gain regularly.
As a long time player with over 5000k games, This has been a really good investment. I have then used those excess credits to invest in consumables and gold ammo, when those where on sales, so now all my repair kits are half prices, and same with most of my gold ammo.
Net gain - what you made after you took away repairs, ammunition and consumables.
Gross gain - what you make before the former.
With the averages you gave out, it seems like you're running premium account. Remember that the average net gain i quoted has not paid any heed to premium account bonuses.
That will explain it, hadn't caught that. Yes, I premium up in this biatch with my prem tank, with my gold ammo and consumables all bought at half price :-)
On May 28 2013 00:50 m4inbrain wrote: Well, the PantherII was pretty underwhelming when it was the highest tank in the german med line, guess nothing has changed. ^^
Ohh man. You have just singled out my two favourite and most successful tanks, and hated both.
On May 28 2013 00:50 m4inbrain wrote: Well, the PantherII was pretty underwhelming when it was the highest tank in the german med line, guess nothing has changed. ^^
Ohh man. You have just singled out my two favourite and most successful tanks, and hated both.
Didn't say i hate the PantherII. It was fun in a platoon with two heavies to protect you, the gun on it was amazing (the 10,5). But, meh, it was just too big to compete properly, everything and his brother shot through the paper-armor (and of course, killed the engine with the first hit every single time).
I had fun playing it, as long as i wasn't alone. ^^
On May 28 2013 00:50 m4inbrain wrote: Well, the PantherII was pretty underwhelming when it was the highest tank in the german med line, guess nothing has changed. ^^
Ohh man. You have just singled out my two favourite and most successful tanks, and hated both.
Didn't say i hate the PantherII. It was fun in a platoon with two heavies to protect you, the gun on it was amazing (the 10,5). But, meh, it was just too big to compete properly, everything and his brother shot through the paper-armor (and of course, killed the engine with the first hit every single time).
I had fun playing it, as long as i wasn't alone. ^^
I hardly ever play alone any more. I have built up a number of contacts from both real life and online to play with. It has come to the point where I log off again, if nobody is online.
On May 29 2013 20:38 manloveman wrote: Finally got around to buying a t10 tank (have several researched). I went with a e-50m, since I love both the panther2 and e-50.
Good times was had all the way through. Me and a friend was "wolfpaxing" to some success. So much fun.
Quite good choice IMHO. The E50 is a hell of a fun tank and the E50M is just an upgraded E50 :D. I just bought one month of premium account just for play it non stop without caring for economics.
Concerning somebody asking for money makers, Stug III or KV1 are quite good, but ELC and Leopard (Vk1601) are quite good also scouting and killing stuff in low tiers. The new reworked Leo is awesome and a lot of fun.
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