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NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
August 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#5021
On August 21 2011 01:30 SnetteL wrote:
I think some of you misunderstand the idea of "rushed" games.

Blizzard showed us some gameplay footage of D3 a really long time ago, the way they programmed that is now outdated and my friend who is a game designer thinks it's a real mess they are taking so long.

If you want to keep up in graphics and engines and all that other stuff i don't know anything about you just can't take so long if you don't want to do everything over and over again.


Oh no, Blizzard might release a game that's not using cutting edge graphics techniques!

Oh wait, they never release games using cutting edge graphics techniques. Blizzard, like most people, does not give a shit. They make their games pretty with art, not tech. They picked their tech level early, and that's what they're building towards.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 19:39:05
August 21 2011 19:38 GMT
#5022
On August 22 2011 04:24 NicolBolas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:30 SnetteL wrote:
I think some of you misunderstand the idea of "rushed" games.

Blizzard showed us some gameplay footage of D3 a really long time ago, the way they programmed that is now outdated and my friend who is a game designer thinks it's a real mess they are taking so long.

If you want to keep up in graphics and engines and all that other stuff i don't know anything about you just can't take so long if you don't want to do everything over and over again.


Oh no, Blizzard might release a game that's not using cutting edge graphics techniques!

Oh wait, they never release games using cutting edge graphics techniques. Blizzard, like most people, does not give a shit. They make their games pretty with art, not tech. They picked their tech level early, and that's what they're building towards.

Unfortunately the watercolor painting art style they're using with diablo 3 is completely unfitting for the universe that's been built over the course of a decade and more. The issue is it doesnt even look better than SC 2 imo in terms of the detail.
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
August 21 2011 19:56 GMT
#5023
I'm really sick of people talking about the art style. It's been 3 years, people. Get over it.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#5024
On August 22 2011 04:56 CherubDown wrote:
I'm really sick of people talking about the art style. It's been 3 years, people. Get over it.


Why don't you get over the fact that not everyone is going to like the same art style as you?
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
August 21 2011 20:15 GMT
#5025
On August 22 2011 04:38 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 04:24 NicolBolas wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:30 SnetteL wrote:
I think some of you misunderstand the idea of "rushed" games.

Blizzard showed us some gameplay footage of D3 a really long time ago, the way they programmed that is now outdated and my friend who is a game designer thinks it's a real mess they are taking so long.

If you want to keep up in graphics and engines and all that other stuff i don't know anything about you just can't take so long if you don't want to do everything over and over again.


Oh no, Blizzard might release a game that's not using cutting edge graphics techniques!

Oh wait, they never release games using cutting edge graphics techniques. Blizzard, like most people, does not give a shit. They make their games pretty with art, not tech. They picked their tech level early, and that's what they're building towards.

Unfortunately the watercolor painting art style they're using with diablo 3 is completely unfitting for the universe that's been built over the course of a decade and more. The issue is it doesnt even look better than SC 2 imo in terms of the detail.


And SC2 doesn't look awesome at the highest settings? =/
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 20:21:20
August 21 2011 20:19 GMT
#5026
On August 22 2011 05:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 04:56 CherubDown wrote:
I'm really sick of people talking about the art style. It's been 3 years, people. Get over it.


Why don't you get over the fact that not everyone is going to like the same art style as you?


That's basically it. When you say the art style sucks, it isn't appropriate for the game, it's a shitty decision by Blizzard and the game will fail because of it, etc, you are talking about absolutes. It's these people that can't respect the fact that not everyone will dislike the art style as they do. It's not saying "I don't really like this art style", it just shitting on it like if they didn't understand why Blizzard would do it.

And they have been saying the same thing for 3 years, I think everyone already got it. Blizzard will not change the game now, the art style will stay and bitching about it doesn't really help. It's as annoying as balance whine in SC2 threads. It may even be true, but it's at most just useless venting that everyone has been sick of hearing, where everyone states absolute truths that are completelly relative on each persons perspective. But it will go on, just like people saying they are tired of the people bitching will also go on and it will never end, at least until it's released. And I realize this post is hypocritical and all, but I guess I just give up, you know how they say, if you can't beat them...
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 20:34:49
August 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#5027
On August 22 2011 05:19 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:56 CherubDown wrote:
I'm really sick of people talking about the art style. It's been 3 years, people. Get over it.


Why don't you get over the fact that not everyone is going to like the same art style as you?


That's basically it. When you say the art style sucks, it isn't appropriate for the game, it's a shitty decision by Blizzard and the game will fail because of it, etc, you are talking about absolutes. It's these people that can't respect the fact that not everyone will dislike the art style as they do. It's not saying "I don't really like this art style", it just shitting on it like if they didn't understand why Blizzard would do it.

And they have been saying the same thing for 3 years, I think everyone already got it. Blizzard will not change the game now, the art style will stay and bitching about it doesn't really help. It's as annoying as balance whine in SC2 threads. It may even be true, but it's at most just useless venting that everyone has been sick of hearing, where everyone states absolute truths that are completelly relative on each persons perspective. But it will go on, just like people saying they are tired of the people bitching will also go on and it will never end, at least until it's released. And I realize this post is hypocritical and all, but I guess I just give up, you know how they say, if you can't beat them...


He said "talking about the art style" which would include the people like me who are completely aware that my opinions of the art style are not absolute fact. I have nothing to get over and I won't restrain myself from saying while I believe it look amazing, I would have prefer a different style.

I don't disagree with you that the art style is just a matter of an individuals aesthetic preferences. I don't think that means people should just stop talking about the art completely though, whether they like or not.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 20:53:38
August 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#5028
On August 22 2011 05:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:19 SKC wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:56 CherubDown wrote:
I'm really sick of people talking about the art style. It's been 3 years, people. Get over it.


Why don't you get over the fact that not everyone is going to like the same art style as you?


That's basically it. When you say the art style sucks, it isn't appropriate for the game, it's a shitty decision by Blizzard and the game will fail because of it, etc, you are talking about absolutes. It's these people that can't respect the fact that not everyone will dislike the art style as they do. It's not saying "I don't really like this art style", it just shitting on it like if they didn't understand why Blizzard would do it.

And they have been saying the same thing for 3 years, I think everyone already got it. Blizzard will not change the game now, the art style will stay and bitching about it doesn't really help. It's as annoying as balance whine in SC2 threads. It may even be true, but it's at most just useless venting that everyone has been sick of hearing, where everyone states absolute truths that are completelly relative on each persons perspective. But it will go on, just like people saying they are tired of the people bitching will also go on and it will never end, at least until it's released. And I realize this post is hypocritical and all, but I guess I just give up, you know how they say, if you can't beat them...


He said "talking about the art style" which would include the people like me who are completely aware that my opinions of the art style are not absolute fact. I have nothing to get over and I won't restrain myself from saying while I believe it look amazing, I would have prefer a different style.

I don't disagree with you that the art style is just a matter of an individuals aesthetic preferences. I don't think that means people should just stop talking about the art completely though, whether they like or not.


He said that in response to a guy that stated an absolute truth though, that the art style wasn't fitting, or the guy that said the graphics looked old. I understand what you are saying, and my post wasn't directed specifically to someone like you, it was more to state that I completelly agree with that guy, people have been stating the art style doesn't work for 3 years, but I've hardly ever seen someone actually discussing things, instead of stating their polar opinions of wether it sucks or is awesome. Very few people actually write it like an opinion, as you did, and that is very annoying. You can also discuss balance in SC2 in a decent manner, but that doesn't mean balance whine should be supported, if that helps my case.

CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
August 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#5029
All I'm saying is, the art issue has been discussed for 3 years. It's old and nothing can be done about it, so move on.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 21 2011 21:13 GMT
#5030
On August 22 2011 06:00 CherubDown wrote:
All I'm saying is, the art issue has been discussed for 3 years. It's old and nothing can be done about it, so move on.


Hear hear. The deed is done, now lets just accept it and move on.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
ReasoN-
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 21:23:38
August 21 2011 21:21 GMT
#5031
#D3 is up for a People's Choice Award at @IGNUK If we win we'll release the beta, or will we!? Only one way to be sure, http://uk-microsites.ign.com/ign-pca/



Pls vote for Diablo3
cdpham
Profile Joined April 2011
United States41 Posts
August 21 2011 23:05 GMT
#5032
Diablo 3 gameplay video posted on youtube by blizzard:

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 21 2011 23:14 GMT
#5033
Month old video =(
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
August 21 2011 23:15 GMT
#5034
I think that video was already posted
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 21 2011 23:16 GMT
#5035
WTF in your video at 0:45 : maul making slicing sounds. I really hope they fix that. After watching the rest, a lot of the sounds are underwhelming (althought the maul one is the only one that truly bothers me). Wonder if those are final or not?

Zombie ladder is pretty awesome, hadn't seen that one yet.


I still want to play this game. At least the killing looks fun despite every change I hate.
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R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
August 21 2011 23:27 GMT
#5036
On August 22 2011 04:24 NicolBolas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:30 SnetteL wrote:
I think some of you misunderstand the idea of "rushed" games.

Blizzard showed us some gameplay footage of D3 a really long time ago, the way they programmed that is now outdated and my friend who is a game designer thinks it's a real mess they are taking so long.

If you want to keep up in graphics and engines and all that other stuff i don't know anything about you just can't take so long if you don't want to do everything over and over again.


Oh no, Blizzard might release a game that's not using cutting edge graphics techniques!

Oh wait, they never release games using cutting edge graphics techniques. Blizzard, like most people, does not give a shit. They make their games pretty with art, not tech. They picked their tech level early, and that's what they're building towards.

I agree but sadly most everybody are very shallow and rate games almost entirely on graphics.. It makes no rational sense whatsoever but people actually don't know what makes a good game.

I'm not calling anyone in this thread out or anything but most of the people who buy this game are going to be herpderp casual players.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
August 21 2011 23:35 GMT
#5037
There was a lot of hate on d2 prior to release due to the low graphics quality.

Game was a huge failure.

strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
August 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#5038
On August 22 2011 08:35 deepfield1 wrote:
There was a lot of hate on d2 prior to release due to the low graphics quality.

Game was a huge failure.



Not sure if srs
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 00:27:19
August 22 2011 00:26 GMT
#5039
On August 22 2011 09:00 strength wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 08:35 deepfield1 wrote:
There was a lot of hate on d2 prior to release due to the low graphics quality.

Game was a huge failure.



Not sure if srs


pretty sure not cereal
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
August 22 2011 02:28 GMT
#5040
i think we need a sprite-based engine guys


rally behind it
I get brain like a skull
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