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Garen is Akali's bully all game  For the laning phase if he doesn't if he doesn't dominate the lane with another strong partner you should be harassing him with Q has much has possible and burst them if he leaves himself open after a judgment. Late game don't try to burst anyone if he babysit them a silenced Akali is a dead Akali
I had the most success with a pure AP build Sheen > Rylai's > Lichbane > Zonya's/Deathfire. But I want to try hybrid this patch, possibly Sheen > Hextech/Rageblade/GA parts > complete them when possible.
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Akali is best off in the Jungle, while she can safely farm in most any lane she needs the fast levels and wants to gank early on when she is strongest. Item wise you want to get your passives up asap (but ideally you use runes and possibly improved ignite for the AP and a single quint and offensive masteries + Dorans Blade for the AD) after that its Rank1 boots->Belt of Giants strength->Rylais.
After that you wan't to change up your items depending on the other team: will I need some more sustained damage?(->GRB) Am I fine bursting down the squishies? (->Hextech Gunblade) etc.
Skillwise you go Q->E->Q->W into R>Q>E>W for jungle and Q->W into R>Q>E>W for laning.
On the subject of AD vs AP vs Hybrid: you definately wan't to go Hybrid ultimately but early on when grabbing Hybrid items (hextech/GRB) you really want to go for the AP items first.
Akali is a viable solo mid, just sit back and farm with your nuke while your cloud is on cd, and force them away from creeps when its up by placing cloud and nuking them from it/hitting them if they come close. But you jungle so fast and gank so well that really you should only be laning if you have a jungle amumu(in some cases fiddle) already and still want to play akali.
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On August 12 2010 14:08 Southlight wrote:
90% of the time AP Gragas does jack, so in pub games you should be able to understand the skepticism. It's the same as if I were to walk in with DPS Chogath and you're like WTF and if I go 10-0 and you look at my past games and they're all monster carry games you still wouldn't change your opinion of DPS Chogath.
Darnit, now I want to try DPS chogath.
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I've only played against AP Gragas about 3 times. If you're not a noob who gets owned by barrels, his early game is a joke. Lategame he has 0 utility when his ulti is down, those barrels don't hit anyone with a brain.
So yeah uh I've never found him to be any trouble, unless he knows how to roll a barrel and then ulti someone into it, bursting 75% of their hp. Actually, one game my team fed an AP Gragas to a 5-0 start but after that he did absolutely nothing and I treated him as a free kill
On August 12 2010 20:24 ghen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 14:08 Southlight wrote:
90% of the time AP Gragas does jack, so in pub games you should be able to understand the skepticism. It's the same as if I were to walk in with DPS Chogath and you're like WTF and if I go 10-0 and you look at my past games and they're all monster carry games you still wouldn't change your opinion of DPS Chogath. Darnit, now I want to try DPS chogath.
Btw DPS Chogath is about stacking attack speed for the vorpal spikes. It's terrible but attack speed chogath makes you dominate solo mid, true story
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On August 12 2010 20:24 ghen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 14:08 Southlight wrote:
90% of the time AP Gragas does jack, so in pub games you should be able to understand the skepticism. It's the same as if I were to walk in with DPS Chogath and you're like WTF and if I go 10-0 and you look at my past games and they're all monster carry games you still wouldn't change your opinion of DPS Chogath. Darnit, now I want to try DPS chogath.
It's pretty fun, open ruby crystal, rush frozen mallet, get starks then whatever.
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On August 12 2010 20:14 Nafaltar wrote:
Akali is best off in the Jungle, while she can safely farm in most any lane she needs the fast levels and wants to gank early on when she is strongest. Item wise you want to get your passives up asap (but ideally you use runes and possibly improved ignite for the AP and a single quint and offensive masteries + Dorans Blade for the AD) after that its Rank1 boots->Belt of Giants strength->Rylais.
After that you wan't to change up your items depending on the other team: will I need some more sustained damage?(->GRB) Am I fine bursting down the squishies? (->Hextech Gunblade) etc.
Skillwise you go Q->E->Q->W into R>Q>E>W for jungle and Q->W into R>Q>E>W for laning.
On the subject of AD vs AP vs Hybrid: you definately wan't to go Hybrid ultimately but early on when grabbing Hybrid items (hextech/GRB) you really want to go for the AP items first.
Akali is a viable solo mid, just sit back and farm with your nuke while your cloud is on cd, and force them away from creeps when its up by placing cloud and nuking them from it/hitting them if they come close. But you jungle so fast and gank so well that really you should only be laning if you have a jungle amumu(in some cases fiddle) already and still want to play akali.
I'm a little bit confused on the jungling part. Do I jungle first (as in from lvl 1) into ganking? Or Lane till lvl 6 or w/e then jungle/gank. Also what are the pros and cons of each style? And is one style suited better vs casters, another vs HP heavy champs?
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You jungle from lvl1, depending on the runes and summoner skills you have(smite is mandatory) you either open at the Mana Golem or the small Golems.
Assuming you are running Ignite and they don't have a jungler the Ideal jungle path is Ignite+smite Mana Golem->Wolves->Opponents Wraiths->Opponents small Golems(use smite)->Bluepill buy Boots and 3 Healing Pots->"Your" Wraiths->Fire Lizard(smite comes back up just in time to finish it off at 500 hps)->Go gank Bot or Mid (you are lvl 4 have boots, near full hps and fire buff and Ignite is back up). After that you just get to level 6 and your belt of Giants Strength and go kill whoever needs to die (if you weren't a pansy ninja girl you'd be the Juggernaut now). Once you get Rylais just kill everyone and everything you come across.
AP Akali->Biggest burst by a small margin.
AD Akali -> Fail
Hybrid Akali-> Still awesome burst and you both have solid sustained and suffer less from pure MR defense setups. Plus GRB and Hextech Gunblade are super costeffective.
If you do get a full inventory going for more AP items after your Rylais/GRB/Hextech/Boots is viable (like Zhonyas/Lichbane) but often getting some survivability is a good idea by then (Guardian Angel) and going for more Hybrid with a Trinity Force+Random item isn't bad either. But really going beyond 2-3 items won't normally happen at any higher level of play.
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Akali might become better nowthat TexMex was buffed <_>
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Akali is a fine champion, she just sucks when the enemy team is too tanky. When they have generally difficult to stay on glass cannons (ezreal, ashe, tristana, etc) then she sky rockets in value because she can chase them down and put them into the ground.
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She's kind of like Master Yi I guess.
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jungle akali should go fort pot and 5 health pots so you can clear the jungle before needing to bp. you can also attempt to gank someone with both buffs at level 3 if you see a good opportunity.
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thats exactly why she's bad, ranged DPS is trash at the moment. all twitch/ashe/tristana/tf/etc are is a liability right now. even ezrael is pretty overrated I think. ive been seeing a lot of captains selecting him and failing miserably, even when they take their red everytime its up. tank teams just too good (sup im garen and im OP right now because of this. im a tank that counters tanks yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!)
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On August 12 2010 22:22 Brees wrote:
thats exactly why she's bad, ranged DPS is trash at the moment. all twitch/ashe/tristana/tf/etc are is a liability right now. even ezrael is pretty overrated I think. ive been seeing a lot of captains selecting him and failing miserably, even when they take their red everytime its up. tank teams just too good (sup im garen and im OP right now because of this. im a tank that counters tanks yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!)
Lategame kogmaw as hybrid rocks the socks of all tanks.
Madreds, nashor, rageblade and triple pot = dead stuff
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On August 12 2010 22:28 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 22:22 Brees wrote:
thats exactly why she's bad, ranged DPS is trash at the moment. all twitch/ashe/tristana/tf/etc are is a liability right now. even ezrael is pretty overrated I think. ive been seeing a lot of captains selecting him and failing miserably, even when they take their red everytime its up. tank teams just too good (sup im garen and im OP right now because of this. im a tank that counters tanks yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!) Lategame kogmaw as hybrid rocks the socks of all tanks. Madreds, nashor, rageblade and triple pot = dead stuff
lategame? whats that?
exactly why the above suck.
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Kayle doesn't suck right now, and I'd count her as a ranged DPS.
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On August 12 2010 22:39 ShoreT wrote:
Kayle doesn't suck right now, and I'd count her as a ranged DPS.
Just because she also is a support, healer, and a nuker all in the same and she has a 3-sec panic button to keep herself from getting insta-gimped
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On August 12 2010 23:12 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 22:39 ShoreT wrote:
Kayle doesn't suck right now, and I'd count her as a ranged DPS. Just because she also is a support, healer, and a nuker all in the same and she has a 3-sec panic button to keep herself from getting insta-gimped
gun blade got buff kayle should be used more i guess 
hmm, i wonder how should i use TF dps vs vlad at mid. i open decent with 1 death 1 kill vs him but mid game i cant chase him down due to his Q and W just hit and run. my stun even missed bc of W T__T
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NB get some AP for your Q and laugh at vlad, he either chunks 20% of his health to avoid it or gets hit for roughly the same amount.
He does own the lane though until you get around level 4-5 and your Q can start chunking significant portions of health for the mana invested.
DPS fate shouldn't mid he belongs in a side lane since he doesnt have the burst to gank at 6 so its more important to get someone else there quicker
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On August 12 2010 20:54 Nafaltar wrote:
You jungle from lvl1, depending on the runes and summoner skills you have(smite is mandatory) you either open at the Mana Golem or the small Golems.
Assuming you are running Ignite and they don't have a jungler the Ideal jungle path is Ignite+smite Mana Golem->Wolves->Opponents Wraiths->Opponents small Golems(use smite)->Bluepill buy Boots and 3 Healing Pots->"Your" Wraiths->Fire Lizard(smite comes back up just in time to finish it off at 500 hps)->Go gank Bot or Mid (you are lvl 4 have boots, near full hps and fire buff and Ignite is back up). After that you just get to level 6 and your belt of Giants Strength and go kill whoever needs to die (if you weren't a pansy ninja girl you'd be the Juggernaut now). Once you get Rylais just kill everyone and everything you come across.
AP Akali->Biggest burst by a small margin.
AD Akali -> Fail
Hybrid Akali-> Still awesome burst and you both have solid sustained and suffer less from pure MR defense setups. Plus GRB and Hextech Gunblade are super costeffective.
If you do get a full inventory going for more AP items after your Rylais/GRB/Hextech/Boots is viable (like Zhonyas/Lichbane) but often getting some survivability is a good idea by then (Guardian Angel) and going for more Hybrid with a Trinity Force+Random item isn't bad either. But really going beyond 2-3 items won't normally happen at any higher level of play.
smite is not mandatory.
rest is tl:dr
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Okay mandatory may be the wrong word, but not using smite on jungle Akali is silly. There are revive variants but even so your jungling will be slow comparatively and you get trashed by any other jungler.
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