On July 26 2010 05:51 Mogwai wrote: kayle is my new main because she's totally imba and idiots never ban/pick her in my current elo range. as I was skimming, I saw some discussion of how to build her and stuff, and for whatever it's worth I go 0/9/21 with attack speed marks, mp5pl seals and glyphs and move speed quints. doran's ring, zerker greaves, rageblade, nashor's tooth, triple elixir pump, if you have extra money, go for frozen mallet, blood razors or phantom dancer, depending on which seems prudent at the time, but the most important thing is triple elixir pump after nashors and rageblade. cleanse/ghost. get a 1v2 lane if you can, just farm until rageblade and then solo push towers and get lizard buff to completely destroy people. initiate by simply pounding the fuck out of their tower and then when they go for you, you just cleanse -> ult and let your team destroy them for focusing you.
wewqwrweweereqqrqq for skills.
not even kidding, I think she's the best character in the game right now. she reaches critical mass so fast and just forces fights by being so good at killing towers.
What OP hero will you abuse when kayle gets nerfed/banned?
I currently play Xin, Kayle, Heimer, and Annie, rofl.
How does Xin 1v2? His one weakness to me always seemed that he can't farm in that situation, since even though his burst is good, it isn't 2x as good as anyone else's...
On July 26 2010 08:51 oberon wrote: How does Xin 1v2? His one weakness to me always seemed that he can't farm in that situation, since even though his burst is good, it isn't 2x as good as anyone else's...
since when do you need a huge burst 1v2, even nasus can 1v2. You just take half their hp per combo and after a few combos they either die or become passive
On July 26 2010 05:51 Mogwai wrote: kayle is my new main because she's totally imba and idiots never ban/pick her in my current elo range. as I was skimming, I saw some discussion of how to build her and stuff, and for whatever it's worth I go 0/9/21 with attack speed marks, mp5pl seals and glyphs and move speed quints. doran's ring, zerker greaves, rageblade, nashor's tooth, triple elixir pump, if you have extra money, go for frozen mallet, blood razors or phantom dancer, depending on which seems prudent at the time, but the most important thing is triple elixir pump after nashors and rageblade. cleanse/ghost. get a 1v2 lane if you can, just farm until rageblade and then solo push towers and get lizard buff to completely destroy people. initiate by simply pounding the fuck out of their tower and then when they go for you, you just cleanse -> ult and let your team destroy them for focusing you.
wewqwrweweereqqrqq for skills.
not even kidding, I think she's the best character in the game right now. she reaches critical mass so fast and just forces fights by being so good at killing towers.
What OP hero will you abuse when kayle gets nerfed/banned?
You say this like there is something wrong with doing so. If you want to do well in ranked, you 'abuse' strong champions, that's how it works. There are very few exceptions.
Relax, it was said in jest. I said the same thing when pantheons damage bug got fixed just to troll him and he got a bit defensive and wanted to make sure everyone knew he played pantheon before he became fotm. It looks like he appreciated the reference
On July 26 2010 08:51 oberon wrote: How does Xin 1v2? His one weakness to me always seemed that he can't farm in that situation, since even though his burst is good, it isn't 2x as good as anyone else's...
since when do you need a huge burst 1v2, even nasus can 1v2. You just take half their hp per combo and after a few combos they either die or become passive
Nasus can 1v2 because he can spirit fire and run away to farm. Xin needs to last hit because he has no mass AoE farm skill. This is why I often see Nasus or Morgana 1v2.
I suppose you could hope they push to your tower quickly, but that's not always the case. If the other team has a (good) gangplank, they'll NEVER get to your tower. And if you "take half their hp per combo" good luck getting out to recharge your CDs without taking half YOUR HP in counter attack.
Back to the discussion about hotkeys and smartcasting etc. I always use ctrl+q/w/e/r to level up the skills, it's quick and pretty hard to mess up. I can easily do it mid teamfight and often it is what nets me a kill rather than my opponents getting away with a sliver of health. Also it means i don't have to stop moving or keep moving in the same direction in lane to level up. Smartcasting I really only use for when I want to target myself, I much prefer *skill hotkey*+f2/3/4/5 for targeting spells on my teammates. It's soooooo much easier to do in a teamfight than try and click on a champion who might be moving quickly or if they're melee in the middle of a massive clusterfuck. I've done some clutch ults with kayle this way, you just have to remember the number of the champion before the teamfight starts XD
On July 26 2010 05:51 Mogwai wrote: kayle is my new main because she's totally imba and idiots never ban/pick her in my current elo range. as I was skimming, I saw some discussion of how to build her and stuff, and for whatever it's worth I go 0/9/21 with attack speed marks, mp5pl seals and glyphs and move speed quints. doran's ring, zerker greaves, rageblade, nashor's tooth, triple elixir pump, if you have extra money, go for frozen mallet, blood razors or phantom dancer, depending on which seems prudent at the time, but the most important thing is triple elixir pump after nashors and rageblade. cleanse/ghost. get a 1v2 lane if you can, just farm until rageblade and then solo push towers and get lizard buff to completely destroy people. initiate by simply pounding the fuck out of their tower and then when they go for you, you just cleanse -> ult and let your team destroy them for focusing you.
wewqwrweweereqqrqq for skills.
not even kidding, I think she's the best character in the game right now. she reaches critical mass so fast and just forces fights by being so good at killing towers.
Hm. I've been trying to figure out which marks to use, and I forgot I had my AS marks. Should try those on her.
How do you deal with armor/mres? Just roam and push?
er, basically, but also, teamfights vs. carries are all about burst and you have a built in 3 second immunity to everything, so if you're running cleanse, you're basically impossible to kill regardless of itemization.
On July 26 2010 05:51 Mogwai wrote: kayle is my new main because she's totally imba and idiots never ban/pick her in my current elo range. as I was skimming, I saw some discussion of how to build her and stuff, and for whatever it's worth I go 0/9/21 with attack speed marks, mp5pl seals and glyphs and move speed quints. doran's ring, zerker greaves, rageblade, nashor's tooth, triple elixir pump, if you have extra money, go for frozen mallet, blood razors or phantom dancer, depending on which seems prudent at the time, but the most important thing is triple elixir pump after nashors and rageblade. cleanse/ghost. get a 1v2 lane if you can, just farm until rageblade and then solo push towers and get lizard buff to completely destroy people. initiate by simply pounding the fuck out of their tower and then when they go for you, you just cleanse -> ult and let your team destroy them for focusing you.
wewqwrweweereqqrqq for skills.
not even kidding, I think she's the best character in the game right now. she reaches critical mass so fast and just forces fights by being so good at killing towers.
im surprised you max W first if you are playing her as a carry. maxing Q first will give you a really good midgame. AND if you are solo lane, max Q then E with one point in W and you blow EVERYONE up midgame. seriously QE one autoattack is like a huge chunk of their hp. youd be so surprised. and i get mpen marks to help my midgame Q nuking. she just bursts so hard midgame, then when your nuke starts tapering off, you get nashor and you become dps. thats why kayle is so strong. she just takes off in midgame and never lets go. and her laning isnt exactly horrendous.
meh, the gains off of her reckoning and righteous fury aren't really that great, I'd much rather just be able to farm on lane like crazy to get to rageblade so that I can just godmode people hella early. note: she still hits like a motherfucking truck with just 1 point of each of the offensive abilities, so long as you get itemized.
On July 26 2010 09:19 sRapers_ValkS wrote: where in the heck is that video of the level 1 gank where rammus powerballs and puts a ward in the bushes for the whole team to port to?
Xin is ruining the game for me... I don't feel like playing until he gets the nerf stick shoved up his ass. He just dominates on soloq where people can't coordinate and don't know how take him down properly...
On July 26 2010 09:19 sRapers_ValkS wrote: where in the heck is that video of the level 1 gank where rammus powerballs and puts a ward in the bushes for the whole team to port to?
On July 26 2010 09:51 suffeli wrote: Xin is ruining the game for me... I don't feel like playing until he gets the nerf stick shoved up his ass. He just dominates on soloq where people can't coordinate and don't know how take him down properly...
Riot said they will nerf him and since the new champ is coming soon along with skins and a patch, you won't have to wait long. I usually ban him, Shaco and Heimer.
On July 26 2010 09:18 Mogwai wrote: meh, the gains off of her reckoning and righteous fury aren't really that great, I'd much rather just be able to farm on lane like crazy to get to rageblade so that I can just godmode people hella early. note: she still hits like a motherfucking truck with just 1 point of each of the offensive abilities, so long as you get itemized.
The gains on Reckoning are amazing(damage from nuke scales more than heal, plus the % damage bonus to target scales as well), and E is raised for the cooldown reduction more than the scaling of damage/splash. One point in heal(which has a decent AP ratio at .8) for the utility+movespeed is usually plenty. I guess it's just a matter of playstyle? I like being very aggressive.
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