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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 22:29 GMT
#6141
On July 15 2010 07:28 Shikyo wrote:
hotshotgg's stream just showed why taric should be permabanned


I ban him almost every game that I have the opportunity to. I offer my team the choice between Janna and Taric, though, because I know if someone wants to play Fiddle/Kat they'd much rather me ban the Janna.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2010 22:31 GMT
#6142
Between +50(?) AD to teammates and a 1 hour stun AND being free on top of all that. No reason not to ban.
FADC
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 22:33:38
July 14 2010 22:33 GMT
#6143
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 14 2010 22:34 GMT
#6144
Since I'm pretty sure no one saw my edit because of the page change:

On July 15 2010 07:29 Repok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:28 Shikyo wrote:
hotshotgg's stream just showed why taric should be permabanned

Wut happened?

Taric at like 300 hp with 5 people chasing and attacking him while his whole team was half a map away. He tanked / outhealed them for like 30 seconds and then shen ultid him to save him at super low hp and then his teammates arrived and they destroyed them, and the taric didn't die.



btw, I think I should save for nidalee. Feels like she'd fit my playstyle.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
July 14 2010 22:34 GMT
#6145
On July 15 2010 07:29 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:22 Phrost wrote:
How do most people level skills on kayle? Any variation that I do seems like it should be better than it is...

I usually play kayle

Q,E,W,?,?,R

The rest is kinda dependent.

Q is a nuke/slow but it also helps your E

W is a heal and a pseudo escape mechanism. (speed buff)

E got nerfed in the last patch, but it's still quite good.

R is pretty godly. Get it whenever you can.

Look at their team and if they are focusing you then I'd invest heavily in Q and W because they won't let you stand there and hit them. (still get 1 level at LEAST)

If they let you sit in the back and be a hero then go ahead and max E and maybe split between Q and W. (Remember though Q gives you a % Damage increase!)

Also remember that Guinsoo's rageblade is super core and if i enough money I even get it before boots. Nashors is also a great item.


I play kayle... different waiting for the LoL forums to come up because I think theres no guide on how I play her and if so I"ll post it somewhere but I usually start with E just because it lets me stay defensive and still last hit harass champs that come too far forward.

So I usually go EQWEWR then keep E one level above Q and keep levelling W steadily


I go nashor before guinsoo actually but yeah guinsoo and nashor are both great on Kayle
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 14 2010 22:35 GMT
#6146
On July 15 2010 07:33 Southlight wrote:
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.

What do you think about Kassadin laning vs Sivir btw?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
July 14 2010 22:35 GMT
#6147
Taric is my hero heh... so much fun to have people try and gank me or a teammate and just keep dropping heals on them as i auto attack the gankers to keep it going, then just run out of there with my obnoxious amount of life + armor + mr
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 22:37:09
July 14 2010 22:35 GMT
#6148
Why does Riot even have the option to buy five dollars of Riot points? Literally, like nothing you can get with that.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 14 2010 22:36 GMT
#6149
On July 15 2010 07:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:33 Southlight wrote:
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.

What do you think about Kassadin laning vs Sivir btw?


Sivir is like the strongest laner in the game. I can't imagine Kassadin giving her any trouble at all.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 22:37:35
July 14 2010 22:37 GMT
#6150
On July 15 2010 07:35 keV. wrote:
Why does Riot even have the option to buy five dollars of Riot point? Literally, like nothing you can get with that.


Maybe when You buy for X dollars and You have X RP left so if You're missing only small amount of points, so You will spend 5 dollars to get them, instead of charging ur account with another 20 bucks?
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
July 14 2010 22:37 GMT
#6151
@kev most likely so people can top off their existing riot points instead of buying A LOT more. Although personally I just always buy in $35 chunks for the extra 500RP... worth it IMHO.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 22:41:38
July 14 2010 22:38 GMT
#6152
You can get 3 cheap skins if you wait for sales.

On July 15 2010 07:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:33 Southlight wrote:
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.

What do you think about Kassadin laning vs Sivir btw?


Ahahah, I had to do that this morning, I wanted to kill myself. You can manage, though, now that they changed W (zomg!). Yeah, amazing, it actually comes in useful.

I went Q E E W E R, basically I forced her to make a decision between blocking level 1 Q with her shield or being picked to death, and if she blocked it I'd E her to snare (and big damage), activate W and just auto-attack. He actually out-damages Sivir in a standing fight with that LOL.

As soon as I hit 6 it's pretty over because I get two spells to blow away Shield, letting E and autoattacks do their job.

Edit:
The Sivir actually asked me after the game what she should have done differently and I really don't know. E being an insta-cast means it's really hard for her to anticipate and shield, and she gets zoned out if she's too afraid of E. At one point I was up like 50 creep kills to 30, because she was having to play so safe against E.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 14 2010 22:38 GMT
#6153
On July 15 2010 07:37 Crucifix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:35 keV. wrote:
Why does Riot even have the option to buy five dollars of Riot point? Literally, like nothing you can get with that.


Maybe when You buy for X dollars and You have X RP left so if You're missing only small amount of points, so You will spend 5 dollars to get them, instead of charging ur account with another 20 bucks?


That means you'd need to have spent and ended up with 400 RP for you to benefit at all from the 650 5 dollars gets you. I suppose it can happen, but it sounds to me like the buyer wasn't very good at math!
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
July 14 2010 22:39 GMT
#6154
Anyway, that HotshotGG game gonna be such a rape now

TF / Xin / Taric / Sion / Shen vs Soraka / Cho / Amumu / Ashe / Janna :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
July 14 2010 22:39 GMT
#6155
up down left right up up down down


cute, but shouldn't they just buy another server =.=
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 22:40 GMT
#6156
On July 15 2010 07:36 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:35 Shikyo wrote:
On July 15 2010 07:33 Southlight wrote:
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.

What do you think about Kassadin laning vs Sivir btw?


Sivir is like the strongest laner in the game. I can't imagine Kassadin giving her any trouble at all.


In the time you were away, Sivir went from one of the strongest laners in the game to one of the most piss-poor, IMO. Hahah.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2010 22:41 GMT
#6157
I play kayle... different waiting for the LoL forums to come up because I think theres no guide on how I play her and if so I"ll post it somewhere but I usually start with E just because it lets me stay defensive and still last hit harass champs that come too far forward.

So I usually go EQWEWR then keep E one level above Q and keep levelling W steadily


I go nashor before guinsoo actually but yeah guinsoo and nashor are both great on Kayle


I like that build too. Nashor before guinsoo is totally legit as well. I've tried Guinsoo -> IE before that was alot of fun. Next time i'll try Nashor -> IE. (You get more the AD -> AP ratio is better than AP -> AD from her passive.

The only reason I level Q first is I usually lane with someone else and at level 1 if they decide to be a hero I can bail them out with a slow. (Also I think Q+melee auto attack does more damage at level 1 then E could be wrong)
FADC
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 14 2010 22:43 GMT
#6158
On July 15 2010 07:40 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:36 keV. wrote:
On July 15 2010 07:35 Shikyo wrote:
On July 15 2010 07:33 Southlight wrote:
My problem with him is more that his heal is obnoxious, and his laning power is nasty. As a poking hero player I prefer to take out anti-pokes (Taric, Soraka), and I'm not nearly as bothered by Janna. There's no worse feeling than sauntering into a lane with Kassadin and seeing Soraka or Taric on the other side.

What do you think about Kassadin laning vs Sivir btw?


Sivir is like the strongest laner in the game. I can't imagine Kassadin giving her any trouble at all.


In the time you were away, Sivir went from one of the strongest laners in the game to one of the most piss-poor, IMO. Hahah.


Her and Kass haven't changed much as far as I can tell. Boomerang has a really short cooldown, I don't know how Kass would out damage her straight up maybe just auto attacking, but if you eat his spray; his damage is going to be bad after that, because he can't build charges 1v1. The laning phase would have to last awhile before Kass would over take her according to my old school math, but like you said It's been awhile. At any rate, even if Kass gets a kill on her, Sivir should be richer...
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 22:47:27
July 14 2010 22:43 GMT
#6159
On July 15 2010 07:34 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 07:29 rwrzr wrote:
On July 15 2010 07:22 Phrost wrote:
How do most people level skills on kayle? Any variation that I do seems like it should be better than it is...

I usually play kayle

Q,E,W,?,?,R

The rest is kinda dependent.

Q is a nuke/slow but it also helps your E

W is a heal and a pseudo escape mechanism. (speed buff)

E got nerfed in the last patch, but it's still quite good.

R is pretty godly. Get it whenever you can.

Look at their team and if they are focusing you then I'd invest heavily in Q and W because they won't let you stand there and hit them. (still get 1 level at LEAST)

If they let you sit in the back and be a hero then go ahead and max E and maybe split between Q and W. (Remember though Q gives you a % Damage increase!)

Also remember that Guinsoo's rageblade is super core and if i enough money I even get it before boots. Nashors is also a great item.


I play kayle... different waiting for the LoL forums to come up because I think theres no guide on how I play her and if so I"ll post it somewhere but I usually start with E just because it lets me stay defensive and still last hit harass champs that come too far forward.

So I usually go EQWEWR then keep E one level above Q and keep levelling W steadily


I go nashor before guinsoo actually but yeah guinsoo and nashor are both great on Kayle

Haha that's closer to how I play her but I like a little differently still. I agree starting with E is best. I like to leave Q at level 1 though because I'm happy with the snare and damage increase it provides at level 1. I don't care about how much damage it deals. Then the decision is between W and E. Obviously if your team needs you to heal, get your W up. Otherwise, getting E up is what will increase your damage the most. By the time team fights start happening, you can have it at level 5 to really do some good damage. And of course, the higher level it is, the more often you can have it up, to the point where at level 5 with some CD reduction you can almost constantly have your E up.

Pretty good for metagame too since, as far as I can tell, people don't expect Kayle to be doing that much DPS at level 10-14. Nobody really makes an effort to stay spread out unless I have some teammates who do good AE damage.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 22:43 GMT
#6160
On July 15 2010 07:41 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
I play kayle... different waiting for the LoL forums to come up because I think theres no guide on how I play her and if so I"ll post it somewhere but I usually start with E just because it lets me stay defensive and still last hit harass champs that come too far forward.

So I usually go EQWEWR then keep E one level above Q and keep levelling W steadily


I go nashor before guinsoo actually but yeah guinsoo and nashor are both great on Kayle


I like that build too. Nashor before guinsoo is totally legit as well. I've tried Guinsoo -> IE before that was alot of fun. Next time i'll try Nashor -> IE. (You get more the AD -> AP ratio is better than AP -> AD from her passive.

The only reason I level Q first is I usually lane with someone else and at level 1 if they decide to be a hero I can bail them out with a slow. (Also I think Q+melee auto attack does more damage at level 1 then E could be wrong)


Personally when I take solo mid I just level the snare and the flamesword... her damage output early is insane so with those two you can outdamage almost everything. The heal is more of a crutch and makes her less imposing early on.
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