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airtown
United States410 Posts
Anyway, I'm looking for ideas for the BIG PICTURE of how a new RTS game could work. I'm not really interested in possible back stories or plots, as that will come later. So I'm asking for suggestions on possible systems of mechanics (How will resources be gathered? How will units or turrets be made? etc.) Be as specific (ex. ideas for individual units included), or broad as you like with the ideas. Oh, and don't just say "copy starcraft". | ||
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
On May 12 2010 06:51 4iner wrote: Oh, and don't just say "copy starcraft". do your own work  | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Medieval Fantasy ? Gritty Sci Fi ? I have ideas but I cant really start suggesting anything before I know where im stepping. | ||
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
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teh leet newb
United States1999 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Don't know if it's been made yet, but sounds too obvious to me. Resources from taxing your little people you own? | ||
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airtown
United States410 Posts
Just something to do for fun, not really a full-fledged game. | ||
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fspikec
United States30 Posts
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Toyman69
Canada100 Posts
What engine you use will for sure depict what your limits are. We are using Unity because our programmers had quite a bit of experience with this engine. A rts game is insanely programming heavy, the 4 on our team has just got a alpha working and it took 17weeks. Starting off with nothing though. I don't want to discourage you by any means, just want to let you know what your getting yourself into. To get ideas, we first started by breaking down mechanics in a shit ton of notable rts games. Started choosing what we wanted or what would be cool, and then altering mechanics to make them more unique. Categories like: -Resource gathering -tech trees -characters and abilities -combat -etc. | ||
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EnderW
United States170 Posts
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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TrueIsAwesome
Finland160 Posts
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airtown
United States410 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:05 Toyman69 wrote: I'm at the Art Institute of Vancouver and I'm in a team currently making a rts game(just got a alpha build working). I can tell you for sure that this isn't a cake walk. We have a team of 15(4 programmers, 5 artists and 6 game design students). Hopefully gonna release it online in 5weeks or so. What engine you use will for sure depict what your limits are. We are using Unity because our programmers had quite a bit of experience with this engine. A rts game is insanely programming heavy, the 4 on our team has just got a alpha working and it took 17weeks. Starting off with nothing though. I don't want to discourage you by any means, just want to let you know what your getting yourself into. To get ideas, we first started by breaking down mechanics in a shit ton of notable rts games. Started choosing what we wanted or what would be cool, and then altering mechanics to make them more unique. Categories like: -Resource gathering -tech trees -characters and abilities -combat -etc. Sounds interesting. Will this be a free game? | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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Toyman69
Canada100 Posts
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fellcrow
United States288 Posts
I like SC a lot and the mechanics in the game but I don't want a copy of starcraft for another RTS. I think making a game with a resource system similar to starcraft would be a good idea. Gold and Gas essentially. I personally wouldn't want a huge system with 4 or 5 different resources like stone, ore, wood, gas, etc. I think 2 is a good amount. I think the SC resource system is nice and I would reuse it essentially because it adds more macro to a game, have to keep a eye on it. Keep building "workers". Not just a build a oil rig over this thing and it automatically receives oil every x seconds. I like the macro intensity of starcraft. For units, it is hard to say. I personally have never been a fan of Heroes in games like WC3 that get OP and you have to farm them somehow to level them up etc. I think having squads though is cool. Rather then building a unit at a time, you could build squads at a time. I like that more just because it gives the appearance of having a large army when in reality you have one squad. So lets say you build 10 squads of 10 guys. That is A LOT of guys to have. 100 people running around ready to do whatever. But really you have only 10 squads and that means only 10 groups to micro. Makes the micro different and it would not be like SC, which I would like haha. To start building a RTS game though, I not sure what the best way is for sure, or what companies do, but in my head I would think the best way would be to get X number of races, however many you want, lets say 2 for now. So 2 races, start by getting the basic workers, the basic buildings, (main hall, supplies, barracks) and get 1 squad, or 1 unit, whatever you decide, of a unit. Starting with a fast attack unit, a basic unit, a artillery unit, and a transport unit lets say. And go from there. I dunno. lol I not a programmer at all or a know anything of game design, but that would be the basic start I would think. | ||
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Iparshuyhe
United States30 Posts
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airtown
United States410 Posts
http://www.towerdefence.net/games-261-Creeper_World_Training.php There aren't really any units; you control a network with stuff like turrets and power generators. | ||
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kolp33
Estonia2 Posts
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petered
United States1817 Posts
So like, lets say the zerg worked this way. You could only build drones, and then you morphed a drone into a zergling, and then later, once you got the tech, you morphed the zergling into a hydra... and so on. It would be hard to balance but would be pretty cool I think. Another idea I had was if a race had a few basic units, but then only had one higher tech unit that did all the casting. And then instead of getting higher tech buildings you would buy spells. So if protoss was this way, you could make templar and then every spell you researched could be used by templar. | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:05 Toyman69 wrote: I'm at the Art Institute of Vancouver and I'm in a team currently making a rts game(just got a alpha build working). I can tell you for sure that this isn't a cake walk. We have a team of 15(4 programmers, 5 artists and 6 game design students). Hopefully gonna release it online in 5weeks or so. What engine you use will for sure depict what your limits are. We are using Unity because our programmers had quite a bit of experience with this engine. A rts game is insanely programming heavy, the 4 on our team has just got a alpha working and it took 17weeks. Starting off with nothing though. I don't want to discourage you by any means, just want to let you know what your getting yourself into. To get ideas, we first started by breaking down mechanics in a shit ton of notable rts games. Started choosing what we wanted or what would be cool, and then altering mechanics to make them more unique. Categories like: -Resource gathering -tech trees -characters and abilities -combat -etc. 4 programmers, 5 artists and 6 game designers? No wonder it took 17 weeks for the alpha stage, there's only 9 people in your team actually working. | ||
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
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kolp33
Estonia2 Posts
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
If you think about it, SC1 is pretty much 100% about amazing unit concepts. Just have fun thinking of cool unit ideas, such as ''a fast ground unit that gains +10 dmg with every kill'', or ''this unit attacks in a small AoE around him with a 3-5 secs cd '' and be creative. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
Done. rofl  | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
Resources are gathered by terraforming the map (e.g. increased elevation for wind/solar), but to do so takes resources from military. Your opponent can steal this territory from you, but terraforming also enables you to gain a defensive advantage. This could be a discrete height map or you could do something fancier. Check out Myth (old Bungie game) and Darwinia (indy RTS) for what a simple 3D tactical game should look like. | ||
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Jawa~
United States291 Posts
Come up with your own ideas and ask for suggestions on improving them | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
Not exactly like wc3 heroes, but an ability to center a strat around a unit/group you like(and have it matter strategically) , not feel like all units are equally expendable. Yeah idk if how it'd work haha, but thatd be kinda neat and bring in more rpgish fans. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
Design ideas is kinda the most important part of the game yes, but I'm not convinced you'll finish your game out no matter what the design was supposed to be. -> If it's your first game, just start working on something, improve your technical knowledge while working on the ideas. Even if you scrap the code or models you first started with, you now have a better idea how to make stuff work in the future. | ||
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