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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
May 13 2010 03:06 GMT
#121
Does anyone ever pick the grass starter anyways?
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States409 Posts
May 13 2010 03:15 GMT
#122
I only picked Treecko in gen 3 cause it looked the coolest to me, and I'll be picking Smugleaf in gen 5. Just look at him, what a BAMF.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 03:18:38
May 13 2010 03:16 GMT
#123
Oh they're my favorite even in R&B. Grass starters are certainly less straight forward but they've always had great utility with status powders, poison, sleep and stun, having at least one was helpful for battles and capture. Gradually they've gotten better move sets, as in ones with better attack moves, the recent grass starter Turtwig which ends up as Torterra is a beastly tough Grass/Ground pokemon that learns strong grass and ground moves (no charge up like solar beam). It has the double weakness to ice but it's still pretty awesome and isn't the first starter with a double weakness btw, that would be Charizard's double weakness to rock.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
May 13 2010 03:23 GMT
#124
I liked pokemon first generation when i could actually remember all the pokemon.
After that I just gave up.
Oh no
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2057 Posts
May 13 2010 03:31 GMT
#125
will probably buy this game and see if its any good, but so far the starters are dissapointing..only the grass thing looks decent and the water one looks like a goddam stuffed animal with a bow or something. fuck >_<
aka DragOn[NaS]
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
May 13 2010 05:49 GMT
#126
Man. That 3D sprite stuff looks so bad. Really, they should just stick to 2D until handheld engines can support rather good sprites.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 13 2010 06:04 GMT
#127
On May 13 2010 11:16 BlackMagister wrote:
All the Pokemon games have just gotten better adding more mechanics and refining aspects. If you like to collect things than you will enjoy the new games.


No not really. I can do normal collecting, like collecting frost badges in wow on my main, collecting wins in SC2 for icons, collecting 150 pokemon.

But shit like collecting 500 pokemon, hold items, breeding perfect moves, good IVs, EV training, leveling them up.... too much. Reminds me of collecting 1000 flags or whatever in Assassin's Creed 1, or collecting 100 feathers in AC2.


I did a little breeding in G/S, but not much more than getting some nice move on a Scyther, and all that was back when I was in middle school or high school or something and had a lot more time on my hands.

I dunno, we'll see. But it might just be too much "busy work." If it's grind/collecting that has a POINT, I'm much more likely to enjoy it (using Assassin's Creed 2 as an example, getting all the Viewpoints is fine, getting all the Feathers is not).

Much more interested in if this game will be interesting in terms of story. Pokemon's never been hard enough for getting into everything to be worth it or enjoyable after RBY, maybe stretched to GS.
Beasttwo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada49 Posts
May 13 2010 06:08 GMT
#128
Well we know all know the white copies are going to be sold out
Even the best fall down sometimes
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
May 13 2010 06:10 GMT
#129
Those new starter pokemon look.. very uninspired. Why can't they just break from the Fire/Grass/Water starter tradition and replace it with something awesome like a Dragon/Psychic/Dark starter combo or something like that.
Writerptrk
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 13 2010 07:08 GMT
#130
On May 13 2010 15:10 ArvickHero wrote:
Those new starter pokemon look.. very uninspired. Why can't they just break from the Fire/Grass/Water starter tradition and replace it with something awesome like a Dragon/Psychic/Dark starter combo or something like that.

But then their types won't counter each other.
( ・´ー・`)
ReaverDrop!
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada81 Posts
May 13 2010 07:41 GMT
#131
pokemon nowadays sucks nuts, I remember the original and how badass it was, I still play it from time to time but the new ones are pretty uninspiring.
Bloodninja, nuff said.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 13 2010 08:16 GMT
#132
On April 11 2010 04:06 Brees wrote:
snorlax will always be the best pokemon

:3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51500 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 09:05:17
May 13 2010 09:04 GMT
#133
On May 13 2010 12:06 selboN wrote:
Does anyone ever pick the grass starter anyways?


bulbasaur>everything.

oh and waxangle>snorlax imo.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 13 2010 19:29 GMT
#134
On May 13 2010 15:04 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 11:16 BlackMagister wrote:
All the Pokemon games have just gotten better adding more mechanics and refining aspects. If you like to collect things than you will enjoy the new games.


No not really. I can do normal collecting, like collecting frost badges in wow on my main, collecting wins in SC2 for icons, collecting 150 pokemon.

But shit like collecting 500 pokemon, hold items, breeding perfect moves, good IVs, EV training, leveling them up.... too much. Reminds me of collecting 1000 flags or whatever in Assassin's Creed 1, or collecting 100 feathers in AC2.


I did a little breeding in G/S, but not much more than getting some nice move on a Scyther, and all that was back when I was in middle school or high school or something and had a lot more time on my hands.

I dunno, we'll see. But it might just be too much "busy work." If it's grind/collecting that has a POINT, I'm much more likely to enjoy it (using Assassin's Creed 2 as an example, getting all the Viewpoints is fine, getting all the Feathers is not).

Much more interested in if this game will be interesting in terms of story. Pokemon's never been hard enough for getting into everything to be worth it or enjoyable after RBY, maybe stretched to GS.


Well collecting the various pokemon has more of a point than collecting flags in Assassin's Creed which just gives an achievement maybe an extra cut scene? Having a variety of pokemon means more resources to trade online, breed, help catch or battle with. You won't get all the pokemon unless you hack or are a super fan which is something you'll just have to live with because certain pokemon can only obtained through real life events or limited time online events.

The breeding, IVs and EVs is something you only need to bother with once you beat the game. It also depends on perfect you want the IVs and EVs, like I only bother with EVs to reduce stats I don't need, but don't really care if they're perfect so it takes considerably less time. Same with IVs as long as they're average, which you can tell by talking to a certain character, it's fine. You really don't need to bother with IVs at all really unless you're super competitive.

Pokemon is a time consuming game but it is an RPG. In my opinion it's a lot more enjoyable than other RPGs end game, it's a more complicated form of grinding but compared to other RPGs in the late game I'd say it's actually less time consuming once you understand it.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 13 2010 19:43 GMT
#135
haha, guess they ran out of other colours.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
AtTheFuneral
Profile Joined December 2009
United States137 Posts
May 13 2010 20:10 GMT
#136
yu gi oh is better
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
May 13 2010 20:34 GMT
#137
I just don´t get why they have to remake the same game everytime. I mean, it's nice because when I bought my DS I also got a pokemon game knowing I would probably like it so it was a safe purchase, which was nice. However, so many things are just the same: the linear gameplay, the HM's always starting with Cut, the Team Rocket villains, the Elite Four. Were they thinking a small twist such as making the Champion not your rival but a different character constitutes actual change? I hope they try to make a pokemon game once that's not just an update for a new console with some added mechanics to keep the game fresh, since after the 5th game that stopped working.

Another thing is, I really think pokemon as a franchise has the potential to also be enjoyed by older people, not just because it makes them nostalgic about their childhood. I wish they would have something like an "expert" version of one of their games which has drastically changed difficulty levels, assumptions of your ignorance about the world, an actual reason to catch pokemon at all besides your starter and one or two others.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
BlueApex
Profile Joined May 2010
63 Posts
May 13 2010 20:43 GMT
#138
Even though I'm a pokemon fan, I'm not going to get this
The very best, I want to be
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 13 2010 21:07 GMT
#139
I'm looking forward to the Gen 5 Pokemon games. From a competitive pokemon standpoint, the last few generations has added quite alot of new pokemon/moves/items to make the battles more dynamic. But I think the creators of Pokemon are slowly running out of ideas to make the game totally new and exciting.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 13 2010 21:28 GMT
#140
On May 14 2010 05:34 Mothxal wrote:
I just don´t get why they have to remake the same game everytime. I mean, it's nice because when I bought my DS I also got a pokemon game knowing I would probably like it so it was a safe purchase, which was nice. However, so many things are just the same: the linear gameplay, the HM's always starting with Cut, the Team Rocket villains, the Elite Four. Were they thinking a small twist such as making the Champion not your rival but a different character constitutes actual change? I hope they try to make a pokemon game once that's not just an update for a new console with some added mechanics to keep the game fresh, since after the 5th game that stopped working.

Another thing is, I really think pokemon as a franchise has the potential to also be enjoyed by older people, not just because it makes them nostalgic about their childhood. I wish they would have something like an "expert" version of one of their games which has drastically changed difficulty levels, assumptions of your ignorance about the world, an actual reason to catch pokemon at all besides your starter and one or two others.


It's called the Battle Frontier... If there was an actual "expert" mode it would just be all the trainers with higher level pokemon and mean more grinding. I do think they need to improve the AI of the trainers though.
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