Marvel vs Capcom 3 - Page 82

On March 21 2011 12:27 emc wrote:
I got Shuma Gorath and Jill Valentine, here is what I have to say.

Shuma Gorath is a fucking beast, although I haven't been able to figure out any air combos that lead into OTG Hyper Combos, although you can Air Combo his level three Chaos Dimension. Chaos Dimension though, was nerfed really really badly since MvC2. I feel like it's not even worth it, and is probably one of the least appealing specials in the game. The only thing that can make it worth it is that you can air combo into to it or use it as a for sure finisher because it's unblockable. The timer for Chaos Dimension is really faster, I'd say almost 2x as fast as in MvC2 and the damage feels like it's 1/2 the damage it was in MvC2. His other hyper combos are so so, but what makes Shuma good is he has good ground game and some cool air combos. L., M., Cr.H, Jump, Air M., Air M. Up+Air H., Land, M., Launcher into air combo. His Special in Air is also amazing and is definitely the best air special in the game as he turns to stone and immediately pounds the ground below him like in MvC2.

Great switch ups, awesome air combos and sick damage potential, he is definitely worth the DLC, 8/10.

Jill on the other hand, I'm not entirely sure she is worth it. She is very odd and is completely unlike her counter part in MvC2 which is a shame, a damn shame. Every character that was in MvC2 thats in MvC3 is practically the same in every way, except Jill. It sucks because Jill in MvC2 was a very good character and has easy to execute combos for high damage, also her specials were unique and could summon zombies, birds and dogs, not any more . Jill is now turned into a strange character who can be fast at times. Her main special moves are all linked to a Down Down Special, which allows her to dash very quickly in any direction but you can't jump normally while doing this. If you do her fireball special with any attack they all have different uses and the light and medium transition into her Down Down Special stance where you can either use the dash or press Light, Medium or Heavy and get a new move. She has a Hyper Combo that is similar to Wolverines Down Down Atk+Atk where he becomes super fast, but rather jill can't combo very well while in this mode and can't even jump normally, I haven't been able to find a use for this ability. Her normal Fireball Hyper Combo is also pretty useless but it can get you out of sticky situations because it has fast start up and it throws you across the screen. The move essentially attacks in all directions so there is no real use for this to get high amounts of damage, it may be useful to cancel other Hyper Combos or get you out of a corner or avoid certain specials. Her best Hyper Combo is with Dragon Punch but it doesn't OTG and you can't use it in the Air, it's only useful if you can link it with a ground combo.

Good Ground Combos, awful air combos and a very limited skill set. Her Hyper Combos are perhaps the worst in the entire game and she is awkward to use. I wish they just made her like in MvC2 . 3/10, not worth the DLC unless you are a RE fan.

On March 21 2011 12:48 emc wrote:
I just watched this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLQsJTuAdE&feature=player_embedded

I stand corrected, looks like she has some good potential and is probably a character with a high skill cap. Still, I don't expect her to be a staple character but who knows we've seen JW use weird characters before and own shit up. After watching this I kinda want to go practice those moves.

On March 22 2011 03:16 KissBlade wrote:
Jill's combos are so tough to do but her potential seems amazing. X_X she has so much mixups and resets ... Her biggest strength is the Feral Crouch cancel that lets her get out of ANYTHING. She seems like she'll be the new Magneto in the game as she can do ridiculous pressure once you get into a flow with Feral Crouch canceling as her recovery from everything is neutral which means she can pressure any normal block strings into overhead, crossup, lows, etc. I just need a combo with her that I can pull off without getting cramps on my wrist. May have to move to pad since I have some Blazblue Rachel muscle memory built in from CT. =(

Shuma looks really solid too but didn't impress me as much as Jill besides his OMG Ray assist.

On March 21 2011 15:28 KOFgokuon wrote:
oh jwong so pringles

On March 21 2011 15:11 emc wrote:
I honestly don't know why shes blonde, thats just how she looks in RE5, same costume and everything. I played and beat RE5 over and over again, and yea they don't take the time to tell you why she is blonde, maybe when wesker was experimenting on her he wanted her to have the same hair color as him? lol. Or maybe it's a side effect of oroboros, I have no clue.

Jill was great in MvC2, easy air combo into hyper for some decent damage and a lot of her moves were viable. She was to me, considered a cheap character because of all the keep away she could do and the easy combos so I guess MvC3's jill is an upgrade in that regard since her moves are more straight forward. Still, I'm sure with the old jill capcom would've found a way to make her beastly in MvC2, I just miss her old move set

looking back at what I said, Chaos Dimension (lvl 3 super) is actually excellent. I miss the old damage and the OTG you could do in MvC2 after executing the grab. In MvC3 you can pretty much link it with anything basically they traded the moves ridiculous damage for easy execution. Yeah shuma is sick, definitely on my A team.

On March 22 2011 05:46 Kingkosi wrote:
I need better people to play my friends are no challenge