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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 04 2012 14:51 GMT
#161
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.



Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


They are just basing this off the UI. The Art Style aside it looks very Diablo-esque :p


I'm having a real dilemma here...I love Diablo but I love Torchlight...WHYYYYY would you release Torchlight 2 at the same time as D3, I want to play them both so badly ; ;
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#162
No reason at all that you can't play them both.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 04 2012 15:15 GMT
#163
No reason other than myself hahaha.

I'll get so sucked into one I'll play it like an addict for months and months
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 15:31:34
May 04 2012 15:30 GMT
#164
On May 04 2012 23:51 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_e97WjzHo0


Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


They are just basing this off the UI. The Art Style aside it looks very Diablo-esque :p


I'm having a real dilemma here...I love Diablo but I love Torchlight...WHYYYYY would you release Torchlight 2 at the same time as D3, I want to play them both so badly ; ;

The only comparison that can be made between the UI's is that Diablo 3 is a straight-jacket, while Torchlight 2 is freedom.

Here's what I said about the Diablo 3's UI during the open beta:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330749&currentpage=50#993
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330749&currentpage=52#1035
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330749&currentpage=52#1037
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 15:50:13
May 04 2012 15:48 GMT
#165
On May 05 2012 00:15 Torenhire wrote:
No reason other than myself hahaha.

I'll get so sucked into one I'll play it like an addict for months and months

Well the other will be right there to suck you back in once the months and months end.

Yea the D3 ui is very anti-intuitive and looks pretty weak compared to the competition from other aRPGs coming out soon.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 16:03:05
May 04 2012 16:02 GMT
#166
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_e97WjzHo0


Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


Oh dear. Is there a single thread on TL where you'll actually add something constructive instead of just rambling on with the first thing that comes to your mind, regardless of context?

Not only does the RMAH have nothing to do with the art direction, but "polar opposites" isn't exactly the right term to describe a game that was not only heavily inspired by Diablo but also designed by some of the original Diablo team. The Torchlight devs have never hidden their inspiration, and why should they. TL was an amazing game.

I also don't understand the apparent urge of some people to nonstop shit on D3 just because there's a great alternative around. So you don't like the direction D3 is going and will play TL2 instead? Cool. Go ahead, noone cares. This fanboy-ish need to badmouth one product and praise the alternative product of your choice as the holy grail of [insert genre here] is beyond ridiculous.

Don't like D3? Alright. Play TL2. Other way around? Fine too. Going to play both? Cool. Just don't use every thread as if there's a desperate need for propaganda.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 04 2012 16:04 GMT
#167
I don't necessarily agree with it, I was just clarifying that they were claiming it looks like Diablo UI.

LOOKS, not feels. I was rebuking the guy who assumed he meant the game was the same.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 16:09:04
May 04 2012 16:06 GMT
#168
the irony here is too funny, shockk


but lets keep this thread about TL2 and not another "d3 is better than every game ever" or "d3 is total shit and blizzard is scamming you all" thread, we have enough of those already.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 16:09:34
May 04 2012 16:08 GMT
#169
On May 05 2012 01:02 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_e97WjzHo0


Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


Oh dear. Is there a single thread on TL where you'll actually add something constructive instead of just rambling on with the first thing that comes to your mind, regardless of context?

Have you looked at my post history or something? If you have, you'd notice that I almost always add something constructive. Here's one example (which was ignored): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330491&currentpage=71#1406

Your name looks familiar, I may have argued with you in another thread... not sure which though.
Not only does the RMAH have nothing to do with the art direction

Correct.

, but "polar opposites" isn't exactly the right term to describe a game that was not only heavily inspired by Diablo but also designed by some of the original Diablo team. The Torchlight devs have never hidden their inspiration, and why should they. TL was an amazing game.

The inspiration is there. Diablo and Torchlight are mostly the same type of game, with mostly the same mechanics. But the art styles are opposite, cartoony vs dark and gloomy.

I also don't understand the apparent urge of some people to nonstop shit on D3 just because there's a great alternative around. So you don't like the direction D3 is going and will play TL2 instead? Cool. Go ahead, noone cares. This fanboy-ish need to badmouth one product and praise the alternative product of your choice as the holy grail of [insert genre here] is beyond ridiculous.

Don't like D3? Alright. Play TL2. Other way around? Fine too. Going to play both? Cool. Just don't use every thread as if there's a desperate need for propaganda.

Would you like me to dish out a list of TL2 criticisms, every time I trash D3, just for balance? I could do that.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 04 2012 16:10 GMT
#170
Wait which one is the dark and gloomy one?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
May 04 2012 16:22 GMT
#171
On May 05 2012 01:10 NotSorry wrote:
Wait which one is the dark and gloomy one?

Diablo. No, it's not a joke.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 04 2012 16:48 GMT
#172
On May 05 2012 01:08 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 01:02 Shockk wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_e97WjzHo0


Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


Oh dear. Is there a single thread on TL where you'll actually add something constructive instead of just rambling on with the first thing that comes to your mind, regardless of context?

Have you looked at my post history or something? If you have, you'd notice that I almost always add something constructive. Here's one example (which was ignored): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330491&currentpage=71#1406

Your name looks familiar, I may have argued with you in another thread... not sure which though.
Show nested quote +
Not only does the RMAH have nothing to do with the art direction

Correct.

Show nested quote +
, but "polar opposites" isn't exactly the right term to describe a game that was not only heavily inspired by Diablo but also designed by some of the original Diablo team. The Torchlight devs have never hidden their inspiration, and why should they. TL was an amazing game.

The inspiration is there. Diablo and Torchlight are mostly the same type of game, with mostly the same mechanics. But the art styles are opposite, cartoony vs dark and gloomy.

Show nested quote +
I also don't understand the apparent urge of some people to nonstop shit on D3 just because there's a great alternative around. So you don't like the direction D3 is going and will play TL2 instead? Cool. Go ahead, noone cares. This fanboy-ish need to badmouth one product and praise the alternative product of your choice as the holy grail of [insert genre here] is beyond ridiculous.

Don't like D3? Alright. Play TL2. Other way around? Fine too. Going to play both? Cool. Just don't use every thread as if there's a desperate need for propaganda.

Would you like me to dish out a list of TL2 criticisms, every time I trash D3, just for balance? I could do that.

You bringing up RMAH had nothing to do with this game or this thread and didn't tie into your first sentance.

And you don't have to look up your post history to recognize you. I haven't and I remember you from several posts/arguments. Take that as you will.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
May 04 2012 17:12 GMT
#173
On May 05 2012 01:48 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 01:08 paralleluniverse wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:02 Shockk wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:34 paralleluniverse wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:05 solidbebe wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:42 paralleluniverse wrote:
A gameplay video from beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_e97WjzHo0


Lol, they're not afraid of looking like a diablo copy. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it is good.

It doesn't look like a Diablo copy, the art styles are polar opposites. D3 became a joke the moment they announced the RMAH.


Oh dear. Is there a single thread on TL where you'll actually add something constructive instead of just rambling on with the first thing that comes to your mind, regardless of context?

Have you looked at my post history or something? If you have, you'd notice that I almost always add something constructive. Here's one example (which was ignored): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330491&currentpage=71#1406

Your name looks familiar, I may have argued with you in another thread... not sure which though.
Not only does the RMAH have nothing to do with the art direction

Correct.

, but "polar opposites" isn't exactly the right term to describe a game that was not only heavily inspired by Diablo but also designed by some of the original Diablo team. The Torchlight devs have never hidden their inspiration, and why should they. TL was an amazing game.

The inspiration is there. Diablo and Torchlight are mostly the same type of game, with mostly the same mechanics. But the art styles are opposite, cartoony vs dark and gloomy.

I also don't understand the apparent urge of some people to nonstop shit on D3 just because there's a great alternative around. So you don't like the direction D3 is going and will play TL2 instead? Cool. Go ahead, noone cares. This fanboy-ish need to badmouth one product and praise the alternative product of your choice as the holy grail of [insert genre here] is beyond ridiculous.

Don't like D3? Alright. Play TL2. Other way around? Fine too. Going to play both? Cool. Just don't use every thread as if there's a desperate need for propaganda.

Would you like me to dish out a list of TL2 criticisms, every time I trash D3, just for balance? I could do that.

You bringing up RMAH had nothing to do with this game or this thread and didn't tie into your first sentance.

And you don't have to look up your post history to recognize you. I haven't and I remember you from several posts/arguments. Take that as you will.

The first sentence related to D3. and the RMAH also related to D3. But I've already said that the RMAH doesn't relate to the art style in the post you quoted.

And I'm glad that I'm memorable. That's a complement.
Morthy
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands78 Posts
May 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#174
Yay can't wait for TL2.

I think that Diablo 3 even tho it's made by blizzard, is too expensive. I would do it for 40 euros. So for me Torchlight and I will have to wait till Diablo 3 goes into sale or something. A 4 pack Torchlight 2 + 1 is as much as 1 Diablo game according to steam so.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 04 2012 17:30 GMT
#175
So how about the PvP portion of this game?
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 04 2012 17:35 GMT
#176
On May 05 2012 02:30 papaz wrote:
So how about the PvP portion of this game?

there is pvp in game , u have to write /pvp on the chat i think, but there are no arenas or such thing, but modders can mod arenas into the game :D
yo
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#177
torchlight 2 only has to be half as good to get the value

I expect it will be 90% as good.

No brainer
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 04 2012 17:58 GMT
#178
On May 05 2012 02:35 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:30 papaz wrote:
So how about the PvP portion of this game?

there is pvp in game , u have to write /pvp on the chat i think, but there are no arenas or such thing, but modders can mod arenas into the game :D


cool, so there are mod tools?

then this game has potential!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 18:00:31
May 04 2012 17:59 GMT
#179
The real selling point of TL2 is the mods that came out of TL1, so much freedom to tweak the game to be whatever you want it to be. Got maybe 50-60 hours of entertainment out of TL1, then another 500+ from mods.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 18:23:47
May 04 2012 18:14 GMT
#180
On May 05 2012 02:58 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:35 Killmouse wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:30 papaz wrote:
So how about the PvP portion of this game?

there is pvp in game , u have to write /pvp on the chat i think, but there are no arenas or such thing, but modders can mod arenas into the game :D


cool, so there are mod tools?

then this game has potential!


Yes , IN TL 1 mods and tools was superb , now will be even better because dev's tell in some inteview that they give to players for FREE , tool that they made game on it.

4:10 in this viedo



On May 04 2012 23:43 bored01 wrote:
I am so getting this. Wish there were more than 4 classes though. D:


There will be , even now in TL 1 you have like 20 classes made by community using mod tools , and they are pretty good balanced

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