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On August 09 2009 21:05 Shizuru~ wrote: Awesome write-up!
Fantasy is like the mega anime mechs, with Boxer and Oov combined, brains of Boxer, body of Oov lol body of oov? Oov is like twice the size of fantasy ... =P
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nice history lesson great read thanks riptide
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On August 09 2009 21:13 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 21:05 Shizuru~ wrote: Awesome write-up!
Fantasy is like the mega anime mechs, with Boxer and Oov combined, brains of Boxer, body of Oov lol body of oov? Oov is like twice the size of fantasy ... =P but imagine if fantasy bulked up a bit holy shit. Emperor x10
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On August 09 2009 21:05 Shizuru~ wrote: Awesome write-up!
Fantasy is like the mega anime mechs, with Boxer and Oov combined, brains of Boxer, body of Oov
Heh heh. Fantasy + Boxer/Oov = Voltron Terran.
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beautiful riptide beautiful
T1 FTW!
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it's a very nice article, great job riptide ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
the article kinda makes me depressed though. It's basically how Boxer (aka GOD OF STARCRAFT) founded a team that became the best and then they became one of the richest teams in the league and just bought good players when boxer left and still failed and then boxer came back and they became great again. It's very hard to sympathize with a team that's pretty much always had it all (not that it clearly wasn't tough for them before they became SKT T1, but many other teams had it just as hard if not moreso).
fantasy is almost doomed to never be a true hero of Starcraft. He wasn't Jaedong who came from a last place team and helped bring them to the top, or flash who became the one shining hope of his team after many of the past greats (Ra/Yellow/Reach) couldn't cut it any more. Instead he came from a team that purchased arguably the best coach in the league and the greatest protoss player of all time and then also came to fruition with teammate Best to help carry the team to 1st, and even then couldn't manage to do it thoroughly until Boxer came back.
I would really love to see a team that has never won a Proleague before win next season, like estro or STX. Although I guess technically STX has won the STX cup (although the format is kinda rigged). So go eSTRO for SPL 09-10 champions!
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Brilliant read. Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks a lor for the good work.
BOXER
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Awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome.
SKT1 is all of these things and more.
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Just a quick correction: Fantasy did not 8 brax. He actually placed his depot at his choke first. His rush was a pretty typical timing. The genius of the play was the hidden 1st barracks.
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On August 11 2009 02:48 Ideas wrote:it's a very nice article, great job riptide ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) the article kinda makes me depressed though. It's basically how Boxer (aka GOD OF STARCRAFT) founded a team that became the best and then they became one of the richest teams in the league and just bought good players when boxer left and still failed and then boxer came back and they became great again. It's very hard to sympathize with a team that's pretty much always had it all (not that it clearly wasn't tough for them before they became SKT T1, but many other teams had it just as hard if not moreso). fantasy is almost doomed to never be a true hero of Starcraft. He wasn't Jaedong who came from a last place team and helped bring them to the top, or flash who became the one shining hope of his team after many of the past greats (Ra/Yellow/Reach) couldn't cut it any more. Instead he came from a team that purchased arguably the best coach in the league and the greatest protoss player of all time and then also came to fruition with teammate Best to help carry the team to 1st, and even then couldn't manage to do it thoroughly until Boxer came back. I would really love to see a team that has never won a Proleague before win next season, like estro or STX. Although I guess technically STX has won the STX cup (although the format is kinda rigged). So go eSTRO for SPL 09-10 champions! this is how I feel. Though I like Boxer, I like oov, and I always watch fantasy's games with interest (hoping to see some boxer-esque moment), this proleague grand finals, looked at another way, still feels like a tragedy. OZ (that is, IS) got robbed of a title, because Boxer listened to his father and decided to leave his team so many years ago. SKT poached a lot of its players, they didnt grow them at home.
if Boxer had stayed, and not taken intotherainbow (who I also like) away with him, OZ wouldn't be so poor, and history of the team leagues would be totally different. I can't feel "happy" for T1 crushing a poorer team they stole players from. Jaedong + friends got all the way to the finals without Boxer & co's help only to get smashed by a team with better resources (coaches, sponsor, players)... imagine if Boxer had been loyal like Jaedong has been?
this is all silly of course; it's just entertainment. but it's half-serious... real life has a storyline as well
p.s. good job and well-written, riptide
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When I read through this piece, I'm reminded of the following quote, which applies so well to Oov:
"The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy. Look at you, you're the prodigal son; you're quite a prize." No one else accomplished so much in as short of timespan as did Oov. Though unlikely, I'd like to see him play again.
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epic epic writeup, I think I may love you Riptide.
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wow so nicely written. You should do one for every team
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On August 11 2009 12:27 Delerium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2009 02:48 Ideas wrote:it's a very nice article, great job riptide ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) the article kinda makes me depressed though. It's basically how Boxer (aka GOD OF STARCRAFT) founded a team that became the best and then they became one of the richest teams in the league and just bought good players when boxer left and still failed and then boxer came back and they became great again. It's very hard to sympathize with a team that's pretty much always had it all (not that it clearly wasn't tough for them before they became SKT T1, but many other teams had it just as hard if not moreso). fantasy is almost doomed to never be a true hero of Starcraft. He wasn't Jaedong who came from a last place team and helped bring them to the top, or flash who became the one shining hope of his team after many of the past greats (Ra/Yellow/Reach) couldn't cut it any more. Instead he came from a team that purchased arguably the best coach in the league and the greatest protoss player of all time and then also came to fruition with teammate Best to help carry the team to 1st, and even then couldn't manage to do it thoroughly until Boxer came back. I would really love to see a team that has never won a Proleague before win next season, like estro or STX. Although I guess technically STX has won the STX cup (although the format is kinda rigged). So go eSTRO for SPL 09-10 champions! if Boxer had stayed, and not taken intotherainbow (who I also like) away with him, OZ wouldn't be so poor, and history of the team leagues would be totally different. I can't feel "happy" for T1 crushing a poorer team they stole players from. Jaedong + friends got all the way to the finals without Boxer & co's help only to get smashed by a team with better resources (coaches, sponsor, players)... imagine if Boxer had been loyal like Jaedong has been? this is all silly of course; it's just entertainment. but it's half-serious... real life has a storyline as well p.s. good job and well-written, riptide
Really now, if every player stayed with the original team they were on, you'd have about 5 teams now. Why should boxer be loyal to a team when it dark reality, teams back then meant almost nothing other then just practice partners. The PL wasn't really a set in stone thing. Needless to say Boxer didn't 'poach' anyone, they left on their own accord (so you should attack intotherainbow's loyalty too then?) Questioning boxer's loyalty when he has stayed with the team HE made for well past retirement years for pro-gamers is not only illogically, it is borderline insulting.
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That was a great write-up. I just read through it, and I learned a lot about the team's history I didn't know. Thanks so much for your time and effort in writing it!
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