To Bolt is to Boxer - Page 5

On August 26 2008 21:14 Drazzzt wrote:
The way he not only pulverized the records, all other sprinters and the aforementioned spirit without giving a shit about the other contestants (he didn't even look at them), felt like a clap in the face of all clean athletes.

Later, at the medal news conference, Bolt said it was obvious that the hamstring injury Gay sustained this summer at the United States trials in Eugene, Ore. — which kept him from running the 200 meters here — had hampered his preparation for the 100. Bolt, 21, graciously said he wanted to wish his rival godspeed, and to see him challenging soon.

On August 27 2008 13:36 NonY[rC] wrote:
Asafa Powell and Tyson Gay were his two biggest rivals going into Beijing and these two pieces of evidence demonstrate that he does care about them. Failing to look at his opponents after a race is absolutely not strong evidence to the contrary.

I didn't quote any other part of your post because there were really no other arguments. Feel free to give strong evidence that contradicts mine, but in the meantime, do not publicly say so many negative things about Usain Bolt.

On August 26 2008 21:40 Guybrush wrote:
Good read. Thanks. There definitely had to be done something to build up some names in progaming lately.

Personal charisma combined with champion is hard to find these days. I dont really get how you're comparing BeSt with July. The two have completely different starting points. July has tons of titles, while BeSt has none.

Theres a huge difference between these two. Gameplaywise July has the "it", while BeSt doesnt have that extra. BeSt mixes up his play way to seldomly, his scouting isnt that great, he doesnt adapt very well, he doesnt harass enough, his micro isnt close to his macro, and he lost to Really on Katrina. Hes very consistent though, and has arguably the best economy mechanics right now. July has weaknesses too of course, but they arent that apparant, such as bad decisionmaking, and consistency.

Also, BeSt doesnt have the personal character of July.
He does not dispell the same confidence July does. July is the buff guy with sheer determination in his eyes when he plays. BeSt is the thin guy with long arms, glasses and with a dent of nerves coming from his eyes. You can see this when they celebrate after their games, giving high fives. Oov pretty much had an optimal personal appearance with his height and intimidating face, followed closely by Reach. Jaedong displays confidence, and I think he sticks out as a champion with charisma opposed to many of his other recent championcompanions. This is of course from my perspective, and everyone has their own opinion about this.

Keep in mind Im talking about individual leagues, BeSt is surely one of the most solid/dominant players in terms of consistency, and will for sure continue having nice records in proleague atleast in the upcoming seasons, but he wont win any titles.

You forgot Anytime when you listed up champions with natural charisma.

Lastly if I had to make a pick between those three about who Id think win most leagues in the upcoming season Id pick Jaedong for sure, but if I had to pick who would have the best winning % Id pick BeSt. I guess that comes down to what you define as "dominant" though.

On August 27 2008 17:11 Drazzzt wrote:


As I endorse freedom of opinion, I can definitely utter such strong opinions, even if they are negative towards Usain Bolt. I expressed my feelings about the olympic races and the role Usain Bolt played and I know from discussions with others that I am not alone with these feelings. Of course, I don't have evidence that he doped or anything like that. No one has, and perhapse he doesn't dope and is a talent which is born once in a thousand years.
But for my taste, there are too many such talents born on an island with 2.7 million inhabitants that has an almost non-existent anti-doping system. As there is no evidence, it is a question of faith, which I simply lack. And I know, I am not alone.

BUT: doped or not. This was not my main point. It's not up to me to decide. I just judged the way he behaved during the olympic games and the impressions I MYSELF got from it.

The only evidence you are giving is that he says that he likes his opponents. Come on... Of course, he likes his training partner Asafa Powell and of course he wants Tyson Gay to be fit in order to avoid the discussion of being the fastest if the main rival was injured (I read he was...but who knows).

Anyways, that's only of medium importance. Because I judged his behavior before and after the races. I mainly criticize his defiance of fairplay-behavior. Jogging during the semi-finals without even warming up, stopping his 100m race after 80-90 m, and performing an unprecedented dominance ritual afterwards.
For me, paired with the doubts I mentioned above, Usain Bolt _for me_ is an anti-hero and someone who probably harms more than he is a messias.

AND I love Boxer, so comparing him to Bolt is hard to stand (at least for me).

On August 28 2008 01:16 ThePhan2m wrote:
Plexa, you are amazing.

When I read about Bolt celebraiting early, I instantly thought of this video i saw on youtube. Hillarious!
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On August 28 2008 01:16 ThePhan2m wrote:
Plexa, you are amazing.

When I read about Bolt celebraiting early, I instantly thought of this video i saw on youtube. Hillarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzSpPaCIG0g

On August 28 2008 05:50 WhatisProtoss wrote:
You're downplaying how good Jaedong is.

He lacks charisma?? No way. His plays are crisp and entertaining. They showcase his brilliant skill and handspeed. He doesn't always have to have a plan. He is a spontaneous, free-wheeling, and creative player.

Jaedong is perhaps more entertaining than July, who at one point, kept executing the long-forsaken 2-hatch build, losing over and over again.