EPTThe Elephant in the Room - Page 161
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EnWara
United States55 Posts
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PraetorianX
Sweden780 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On May 15 2011 08:09 PraetorianX wrote: I understand the point the OP is making, but I don't see where this discussion is supposed to lead us. So there are a few good BW players who would just "pwn everyone" if they switched to SC2. Ok, maybe that's true, maybe it isn't (I doubt it is). But what does it matter? Are we just supposed to pause the entire competitive scene while we wait for these magic saviors? No, you're supposed to practise harder, become better. If SC2 is to be the flagship of international esports then the least the top players can do is to try to be the best they can be. It would, in a sense, be embarassing to see BW A-teamers switch and dominate. What is best for everyone is to see this scene get better, for if the time comes when BW dies then you want to see SC2 scene being competetive and not a bunch of pushovers. | ||
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iPBioOrMech
Turkey297 Posts
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aupstar
Australia912 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:46 Doodsmack wrote: But I thought the competition in SC2 is a farce... BW is on tv..  Over a million people watch it live in Korea..  | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + As incontrol would say, the cosmos saw intrigue's article and aligned to make it as true as possible | ||
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DetrA
United States148 Posts
On May 15 2011 10:58 iamke55 wrote: Code S final spoiler + Show Spoiler + As incontrol would say, the cosmos saw intrigue's article and aligned to make it as true as possible MSL finals are going to be JD vs Bisu 3 one base dt rushes in a row. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
On May 15 2011 11:03 DetrA wrote: MSL finals are going to be JD vs Bisu 3 one base dt rushes in a row. dream on,Bisu is not even in the MSL. shows how little you know about BW,because pure DT rushes are literally the easiest thing for a zerg to defend against Protoss,especially on one base. | ||
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
On May 15 2011 10:58 iamke55 wrote: Code S final spoiler + Show Spoiler + As incontrol would say, the cosmos saw intrigue's article and aligned to make it as true as possible So true haha. Boy TL sure pushed this off the front page fast. | ||
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winsause
United States65 Posts
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On May 15 2011 12:20 winsause wrote: I know I don't post that often, but I agree with what the OP said about how it's silly that blizzard changes SC2 so often. Well they are currently balancing it still so i wouldn't really comment on that yet. | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On May 15 2011 11:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: and that's why it's so ridiculous. o_Oshows how little you know about BW,because pure DT rushes are literally the easiest thing for a zerg to defend against Protoss,especially on one base. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
incontrol- this game won't be solved just like that if the gods switch over. Yes they will be absolutely amazing but flash to sc2 =/= solved game. tyler- intrigue is just stating what he thinks should be the standard for sc2 games. Finds it motivating because Tyler realizes sc2 play is no where near the level of sc1 play and that pros like him must step up their game. idra- the statistics shown were a bit skewed, and these "top sc2 players" were not actually as bad at bw as this article makes it sound. Sc1 success doesn't directly translate to sc2 success, and until someone like Flash or Jaedong switches over, we won't see that sort of domination (note he agrees flash and jaedong would destroy this game, but doesn't say anything about the average a-teamer's possible success if they switched). kennigit- alot of sc2 fans are morons thinking that people are "bw elitists" or they want to see e-sports fail. Thinks article was very informational, sometimes the wording was controversial, but overall cannot understand why this argument got so heated. Yes I don't think the sc2 scene has been a farce. Seems a bit extreme to say so. Safe to say sc2 has not seen the highest level of play though. But these new players to the scene claiming people like Flash and Jaedong wouldn't DESTROY the competition clearly have never seen what they are capable of. It's silly. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:08 EnWara wrote: I agree with the OP in that there is a a lower skill cap in SC2 at the moment, but I believe that the root cause is just the lack of time that SC2 has been out, not so much players potential skill. Flash would probably reach the SC2 skill cap rather quickly if he were to switch, but raising the skill cap will still be a slow, deliberate process. I'm looking forward to when people really start to get good at this game what? the OP mentions nothing about sc2 skill cap. And the sc2 skill cap is incredibly high, the skill level atm is nowhere near the level it will be in a few years, im not saying that people are bad atm, but its only been 1 year. I mean look at BW, 2011 play is far better than 2007 play for example. the skill cap will get higher and higher with each week/month and year that goes past | ||
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Champi
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NegativeSC
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On May 15 2011 08:09 PraetorianX wrote: I understand the point the OP is making, but I don't see where this discussion is supposed to lead us. So there are a few good BW players who would just "pwn everyone" if they switched to SC2. Ok, maybe that's true, maybe it isn't (I doubt it is). But what does it matter? Are we just supposed to pause the entire competitive scene while we wait for these magic saviors? The way I read it is that it will hype us up about the future of SC2 in that we really have no idea what the highest skill cap is, about BW pros joining in the future, how similar the two games are, and for some, interest us in the roots of SC2- interest us in BW. Again, I'm going to say I absolutely loved this article and have been watching BW solely because of this article. I never played BW and I think the games are kind of boring compared to SC2. The article is just awesome though. it makes me feel like a tiny, insignificant Diamond league SC2 speck in the giant universe of starcraft ^_^ | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Even if all in the article is right, that doesn't make the sc2 competition "a farce" for me. | ||
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iloevrsg
128 Posts
On May 15 2011 18:55 Salteador Neo wrote: I actually think Flash, JD and Bisu could switch and then get pwned by some white dudes, because the APM factor is much less important in sc2 than in bw. Even if all in the article is right, that doesn't make the sc2 competition "a farce" for me. wow, such a brilliant post! seriously? do you really think that flash and other top bw players are winning only because of the APM FACTOR? please. | ||
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