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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
On May 13 2007 10:59 boghat wrote: Anyone know what Chalrenge's ceremony means by the way? Some people seem to think it was really offensive towards Midas but I don't even know what he is doing ... it just looks cool with his cocky smile. Also the commentators laughing always makes me laugh too. edit: Hot Bid just posted right before me saying it was just a simple hand gesture. I was wondering why people like RaiZ thought this ceremony was so bad, if there's more to it, but if there's not then stop overreacting -.- My thoughts exactly. The ceremony was something like: He tapped his chest, kissed his fist, then it seemed like he striked his arm to the left and pointed at the monitor. I don't see what's the big deal here. edit: I also liked Samsung's first victory: ![[image loading]](http://image.fighterforum.com/showImage.asp?realFile=FFPHOT20070415180056006.JPG) | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On May 13 2007 11:36 KizZBG wrote: My thoughts exactly. The ceremony was something like: He tapped his chest, kissed his fist, then it seemed like he striked his arm to the left and pointed at the monitor. I don't see what's the big deal here. It was a sacred Korean taunt that means "Demons shall dine on the souls of your ancestors and all that is good and honorable in your family name shall be disgraced and I shall burn your fields and hear the lamentations of your women." | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
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Loveletter
United States543 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3994 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5275 Posts
Hot_bid your perspective is wrong: a ceremony does not make a progamer have a personality (and it does not enhance his bw skills), it's the other way arround. Ones progamer personality dictates his ceremony or the lack of. To demand a ceremony from a progamer just for entertaining purpose it's demeaning and to see them differently because they choose not to do a ceremony is discriminatory. As an individual it's fair to have such thoughts, ideeas but when you try to make them rules that needed to be followed it's wrong, egoisthic. The game itself should be entertaining for you but i guess if you want more you can have the booth girls wear pompoms and shake their asses on a M. Bolton song. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27118 Posts
On May 13 2007 15:00 xM(Z wrote: first: people stop with the ass kissing; yes the writting was good but the ideea is completely futile. Hot_bid your perspective is wrong: a ceremony does not make a progamer have a personality (and it does not enhance his bw skills), it's the other way arround. Ones progamer personality dictates his ceremony or the lack of. To demand a ceremony from a progamer just for entertaining purpose it's demeaning and to see them differently because they choose not to do a ceremony is discriminatory. As an individual it's fair to have such thoughts, ideeas but when you try to make them rules that needed to be followed it's wrong, egoisthic. The game itself should be entertaining for you but i guess if you want more you can have the booth girls wear pompoms and shake their asses on a M. Bolton song. When is the last time you wrote anything original and interesting to contribute to the site? | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On May 13 2007 15:00 xM(Z wrote: first: people stop with the ass kissing; yes the writting was good but the ideea is completely futile. Hot_bid your perspective is wrong: a ceremony does not make a progamer have a personality (and it does not enhance his bw skills), it's the other way arround. Ones progamer personality dictates his ceremony or the lack of. To demand a ceremony from a progamer just for entertaining purpose it's demeaning and to see them differently because they choose not to do a ceremony is discriminatory. As an individual it's fair to have such thoughts, ideeas but when you try to make them rules that needed to be followed it's wrong, egoisthic. The game itself should be entertaining for you but i guess if you want more you can have the booth girls wear pompoms and shake their asses on a M. Bolton song. did i say i looked down upon progamers who didn't do a ceremony? i said i didn't like progamers who were boring, had no personality, and choked during pressure situations. nowhere did i make set rules for progamers to follow. the four bullet points were even made in a joking way, you really think i want july to actually go out and be a cannibal? where is the egotism? have you ever read an article written with an opinion? what is wrong with what i said? i'm not demanding all progamers have a ceremony, i'm just cheering for those that have good, non-boring personalities (good ceremonies add to this). i do find the game itself entertaining (just read the first article i wrote) but player rivalries and ceremonies make it even more emotional, which is good because it sparks even more interest. regardless of whether my views are "right" or not (its an opinion) i'm just going to have to disagree with you such an idea is "completely futile" and "wrong, egoisthic" because there's no there's no "discrimination, egotism, or demeanging stuff". i'm just having fun writing about progaming, i suggest you lighten up and do the same. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5275 Posts
On May 13 2007 15:08 Manifesto7 wrote: When is the last time you wrote anything original and interesting to contribute to the site? I see your point and i agree with you but that means i should bow my head and silence my writting just because Hot_bid had an ideea? That is not disrespect, and some constructive criticism didn't hurt nobody. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
nowhere did i say all progamers should be required to have ceremonies and nowhere did i say i hate progamers who don't do them i mean, midas does ceremonies and i still hate him for the reasons i listed above and the column i wrote has a fun joking tone, i dont know where you read the egotism, discrimination, and demeaning ideas | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
~edit~ I think satire might not be the right word to use but obviously he used exaggeration for comedic purposes. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5275 Posts
ProGaming needs more personality, the bigger the better. It needs less robot players and cookie-cutter interview answers. ... We want to see TT get his revenge, or angrily explode after a loss. That’s even better than a great game of BW. You should have personalise the post to make it funny. My mistake was probably seing to much in to the future: goodfriend doing a raindance, oov- scratching like a monkey with a banana in his mouth and other circus stuff like that. If i've missed-getting it, i do apologise. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
like you actually think oov is going to come out in a gorilla suit and throw bananas? or that savior is going to throw a monitor at bisu's father? edit: oh i see, where i write "even better than a great game of BW" i thought it was implied that it would make it even better in addition to a great game of BW. im saying rivalries and personalities make boring games worth watching and great games even greater | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5275 Posts
i just like to add this: when you use "we want" it's tricky, it feels like you put words, ideeas in to peoples minds, you override theirs and the vanity gets the best of them (they start bitchin'). But when you use "i want" you are the leader and people will follow you, in joke or w/e; also when you use the third person "he does", as in "a story about a protoss user" people will identify with your writing and again they will follow, embrace your ideea. | ||
yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
On May 13 2007 11:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: pics are great, but can someone please youtube the 2v2 ceremony :D Ceremony | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On May 13 2007 16:18 xM(Z wrote: now i feel really shitty that you have to explain your post to me. i just like to add this: when you use "we want" it's tricky, it feels like you put words, ideeas in to peoples minds, you override theirs and the vanity gets the best of them (they start bitchin'). But when you use "i want" you are the leader and people will follow you, in joke or w/e; also when you use the third person "he does", as in "a story about a protoss user" people will identify with your writing and again they will follow, embrace your ideea. oh, i think then you are just misinterpreting it. i mean when someone posts "we love you savior!!!" in a savior hype thread i don't think its intended to mean that all people should love savior and that the poster is trying to project his love for savior into everyone else's brain. just like when i write "we want more personality!" means "we" as in everyone who agrees with me. it's not an aggressive "we" that tries to impress opinions into fact or force views onto others. if you read any opinion writing, they write in absolutes, like "ceremonies are great!" rather than "i believe ceremonies are great!" because since its my writing, its assumed that it's my opinion. i'm not writing facts in a dictionary or encyclopedia but rather just what i think. Honesttea wrote "Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins." in his blog entry about perfection, but clearly not all birds fly and savior doesn't always win. Writing "In my humble opinion, all non-ostrich birds fly, dogs die, non virgins fuck, and savior wins most of the time." kind of kills the effect of the writing right? i wouldn't be offended so much by my wording. if you disagree with me, that's fine, we can talk about it on the forum, but you're just reading way too much into a "we want". not everyone is going to agree with me, and i don't expect them to. thats why stuff like the power rankings and this article are fun to discuss--they provide a very direct, opinionated view, rather than boring lists of statistics and facts. | ||
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fookyou
Canada351 Posts
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
Nada's im a little teacup right after he 3-2ed anytime winning with a fac port was plenty, Pusan throwing his jacket off was a little off of the top, but a fucking magic trick, you have to be shitting me. | ||
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
Although arrogance can be a turn off if used all the time, these people get like 10 seconds of fame after they win a game. The camera focuses on them, and instead of being the boring progamer who wins time after time - give us something worthwhile to watch! So, all in all, I like the revolution of the ceremonies. Hopefully they continue to get better as the gamers don't just compete for winning matches but also pulling off the best ceremony. | ||
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