• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:46
CET 10:46
KST 18:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash
Tourneys
New Worlds Star League [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10885 users

Zest Fan Club - Page 232

Forum Index > Fan Clubs
Post a Reply
Prev 1 230 231 232 233 234 252 Next
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 11 2018 06:18 GMT
#4621
Zest's PvP is actually his weakest matchup I think.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 11 2018 11:06 GMT
#4622
http://aligulac.com/players/1658-Zest/

Interesting that Zest's best record by far this year has been against Protoss. He has won 67% of his matches against Protoss vs 60% vs Terran and 58% vs Zerg.

He has also won his last 4 matches vs Protoss players though his match vs sOs on 5/7 was a one off 1-0.
ADTempys
Profile Joined December 2017
Finland60 Posts
May 11 2018 11:18 GMT
#4623
That's all-time winrate, just check the "form winrate", it's way more representative as it's on a shorter period of time, in which Zest isn't the PvP god he used to be but got really good at PvZ
Zest is Best
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 11 2018 11:26 GMT
#4624
This week he is 4-0 vs Protoss, 2-0 vs Zerg and 2-2 vs Terran.

Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 11 2018 11:57 GMT
#4625
And he lost a series to Jieshi just the other day.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 11 2018 12:51 GMT
#4626
On May 11 2018 20:57 Olli wrote:
And he lost a series to Jieshi just the other day.


May 1st. Jieshi also beat bunny and Ryung that same day.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 11 2018 12:56 GMT
#4627
On May 11 2018 21:51 Rolltide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2018 20:57 Olli wrote:
And he lost a series to Jieshi just the other day.


May 1st. Jieshi also beat bunny and Ryung that same day.


Zest still shouldn't lose to him. His PvP just isn't that great atm, and it's quite obvious watching him play.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 11 2018 21:41 GMT
#4628
Zest having weak PvP just doesn't feel right, even if it's true.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 12 2018 12:13 GMT
#4629
According to Aliqulac Zest is the 6th best Korean player vs Protoss. The only Protoss ranked higher is Classic. That's based on recent form.

http://aligulac.com/periods/215/?page=1&race=ptzrs&nats=KR&sort=vp

Zest is 14-4 vs Protoss in his last 18 games on ladder.



Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 12 2018 19:14 GMT
#4630
Aligulac might like him but he's still losing almost all his offline PvPs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 12 2018 22:56 GMT
#4631
On May 13 2018 04:14 Fango wrote:
Aligulac might like him but he's still losing almost all his offline PvPs


Ok we won't count 95% of his play.

I remember him beating Hero, Classic and sOs in succession in the PyeongChang qualifiers. That was 6 months ago though.

In GSL season 1 he never played a single Protoss. He was the lone Protoss in both his groups and then lost to Dark in the rd of 8.

He is one of 7 Protoss among the top 16 in season 2 so he will get his chance then.



Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-12 23:01:44
May 12 2018 22:59 GMT
#4632
How many of you think the other 6 Protoss players are thinking how they wish they draw Zest in their group? If it is "quite obvious" he sucks ass in PvP they should be licking their chops at the prospect of playing him right?



Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
May 13 2018 04:55 GMT
#4633
On May 13 2018 07:59 Rolltide wrote:
How many of you think the other 6 Protoss players are thinking how they wish they draw Zest in their group? If it is "quite obvious" he sucks ass in PvP they should be licking their chops at the prospect of playing him right?




We'll see in Group selection
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 13 2018 06:12 GMT
#4634
Rolltide you need to stop your massive exaggerations of what people say. Nobody said he sucks ass at PvP. He's just not as good at it as he used to be, and his other matchups have caught up to it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-13 13:05:30
May 13 2018 13:01 GMT
#4635
On May 13 2018 15:12 Olli wrote:
Rolltide you need to stop your massive exaggerations of what people say. Nobody said he sucks ass at PvP. He's just not as good at it as he used to be, and his other matchups have caught up to it.



Those were my words(sucks ass). If I was quoting somebody there would be quotation marks around what they said and there were.

I'm glad you singled out me as being a lone person who misrepresents what others say.

Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 13 2018 13:26 GMT
#4636
Everybody has their way of making a point. Like mentioning ad nauseam how a Zest win over Hero somehow does not matter because Hero lost one best of 3 to eMotion in the GSL qualifier. Hero has been an elite Protoss player for years so it still matters to me when Zest beats him.

Nobody would bet their house on eMotion in a b of 7 vs Hero, ever. Citing one single online loss to Jieshi doesn't tell the whole story either.

Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
May 13 2018 13:43 GMT
#4637
On May 13 2018 22:26 Rolltide wrote:
Everybody has their way of making a point. Like mentioning ad nauseam how a Zest win over Hero somehow does not matter because Hero lost one best of 3 to eMotion in the GSL qualifier. Hero has been an elite Protoss player for years so it still matters to me when Zest beats him.

Nobody would bet their house on eMotion in a b of 7 vs Hero, ever. Citing one single online loss to Jieshi doesn't tell the whole story either.


Ofc one loss doesn't mean someone is bad at a matchup, but it is an indicator that it's not on the level it should be.

Let's put it like this.
In 2014 I would have never bet against Zest in a PvP regardless of who the opponent was, yet now I feel comfortable betting against him if he is facing a P heavy-hitter.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 13 2018 14:00 GMT
#4638
I give up. Arguing with you is pointless.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
May 13 2018 14:17 GMT
#4639
On May 13 2018 23:00 Olli wrote:
I give up. Arguing with you is pointless.


Well that would be a first. Just like when I made a little off handed comment about Rogue being the best player and 12 people felt the absolute need to tell me how wrong I was. It was not even a main point of a post You would have thought I said that Jon Snow was the best player the way people responded.

I don't feel the need to argue with every damn point you ever make and I don't think I'm disrespectful of your opinions. You sometimes are disrespectful and rude.

FYI I'm probably old enough to be your father.


Plopus
Profile Joined November 2014
Switzerland112 Posts
May 15 2018 13:19 GMT
#4640
Zest is playing the Olimoleague semi final against Creator at the moment. Creator is clearly not the best protoss but I still think it is a good test for Zest's PvP.
Prev 1 230 231 232 233 234 252 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JimRising 388
Codebar 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 331
firebathero 312
Zeus 167
Killer 150
hero 148
Hyuk 141
Shuttle 135
ProTech110
Larva 82
Dewaltoss 74
[ Show more ]
Rush 65
Hyun 59
Light 52
ZerO 35
Hm[arnc] 28
sorry 26
soO 19
Terrorterran 9
Stork 6
LuMiX 2
Dota 2
ODPixel333
League of Legends
Reynor102
Counter-Strike
fl0m4531
olofmeister482
allub227
Other Games
XaKoH 577
ceh9532
dupreeh483
ZerO(Twitch)3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick528
Counter-Strike
PGL185
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2259
League of Legends
• Stunt484
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
1h 14m
Replay Cast
13h 14m
The PondCast
1d
KCM Race Survival
1d
OSC
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.