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HEADD
Czech Republic611 Posts
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Phil0s0pher
Australia317 Posts
Bad luck, though with changes to WCS in 2015 I smell a championship on the horizon! | ||
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BrieFanFiction
United States167 Posts
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variousczj
Taiwan23 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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catbread
Sweden4 Posts
I <3 scarlett! Looking forward to the foreign hope finals and next season of wcs! | ||
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Soke
United States790 Posts
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Eolo
Spain276 Posts
On October 12 2014 08:36 Waterflow wrote: Forget about this and go treat yourself to something yummy. You're still the best! <3 Of course Waterflow and I can tell too: Scarlett you lost the games but you gain a big hug of your fans. Cheer! | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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olol
33 Posts
At least I hope so. | ||
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HEADD
Czech Republic611 Posts
 Btw scarlett maybe its now time for some terran offrace wins | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
On October 14 2014 00:35 HEADD wrote: I am sure terran will get nerfed but it will be after blizzcon.If terran wins even blizzcon it will be ridiculous.Poor David kim Btw scarlett maybe its now time for some terran offrace wins It would have to be a relatively minor nerf. They're really not that OP on the whole, they're just really good against midgame and late midgame LingBlingMuta. They're pretty even in other compositions, and they still have trouble vs Protoss very late game. I think Scarlett may be hit harder than many other Zerg players, considering that the recent buffs to the Thor and the WM focus on combating Mutas, and she tends to favor exceptionally Muta-heavy strategies in ZvT. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
http://aligulac.com/earnings/ | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On October 14 2014 06:27 Pontius Pirate wrote: It would have to be a relatively minor nerf. They're really not that OP on the whole, they're just really good against midgame and late midgame LingBlingMuta. They're pretty even in other compositions, and they still have trouble vs Protoss very late game. I think Scarlett may be hit harder than many other Zerg players, considering that the recent buffs to the Thor and the WM focus on combating Mutas, and she tends to favor exceptionally Muta-heavy strategies in ZvT. I agree. TvP and early game TvZ are in a pretty good spot IMO. It's just the combination of the Thor now primarily targeting air AND that Widow Mine damage buff that wrecks strategies relying on lots of light Zerg units. Plus the current map pool is pretty good for Terran drop play too. Lots of open space in bases. | ||
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William paradise
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
On October 14 2014 22:07 Shellshock wrote: according to aligulac's earnings page the top 8 finish in WCS AM pushed Scarlett over $100,000 in tournament earnings http://aligulac.com/earnings/ Wow, Scarlett such a baller, maybe we'll need to call her $carlett from now on. On October 14 2014 22:57 Thax wrote: I agree. TvP and early game TvZ are in a pretty good spot IMO. It's just the combination of the Thor now primarily targeting air AND that Widow Mine damage buff that wrecks strategies relying on lots of light Zerg units. Plus the current map pool is pretty good for Terran drop play too. Lots of open space in bases. Terrans are doing well right now post-patch, but that is always the case. Things will equalize like they always do as zergs adapt to the metagame. In fact, it may come as a surprise but according to Aligulac tvz is already perfectly balanced. Zerg's biggest struggle right now is holding the buffed terran midgame pushes with muta/ling/bane, and I've noticed a lot of zergs including scarlett seem to be giving up on the midgame completely and just going all-in every game. Zerg all-ins are really strong but if zergs are busting all the time it is too predictable and the terran just has to open safe, hold it then they win. That was basically scarlett's quarterfinal. IMHO zergs need to rediscover the macro game that defines the race, and maybe take it in a direction more like how pvt is currently structured. Just survive the midgame, defend, defend, defend, don't fight off creep, don't take any engagements you don't have to, harass to buy time, tech up and take it to the lategame where, no different than prepatch, zerg is still much better than terran. WM are no longer very useful lategame, once zerg get 3/3, ultras, infestors terran still don't have a real response to that. In fact, that hasn't changed since Lings of Liberty. The last thing I'd note is that the new terran emphasis on mine/thor introduces new weaknesses as well. The mine is the siege tank 2.0: it's a siege tank that's invisible, shoots ground and air, "sieges" faster, and does all its damage in the first shot. It's a siege tank on roids, which is why no one uses siege tanks anymore. But it also shares some of the siege tank's weaknesses, most notably it still needs time to be "sieged." As a result, terran armies with mines need to play very positionally because if they get caught out on the map with their mines walking, just like WoL with unsieged tanks, your army can get quickly wiped out. Terrans have a lot of options in the midgame, but a lot of zvt games end up like this: the terran just walks his army across the map around the 12' mark, "sieges" up outside the 4th on the edge of creep because it's the most exposed, the zerg runs in with ling/bane/muta, the terran runs his army off creep and lets his mines take out half the zerg and his split marines pick off the rest of the slow banes one by one. Then they take out the 4th. A good engagement like this is usually game-ending. Again, I think one solution for zerg is to take a page out of the pvt playbook. Protoss have a hell of a time defending the midgame push because terran can attack at the front, doom drop at the back, or split their army and attack on two fronts. As a result, they're building fleets of obs, walls of pylons across the map, hallucinogens: all to keep track of the terran army. Zergs don't have invisible observers, they actually have even better options. Burrowed lings around the map cost nothing and you even get ahead if terran scans to kill it. Burrowed banes can take out an army for free, if you're lucky and very on the ball. OL's are effectively free, allowing you to keep track of drops. And of course good creep spread is virtually maphacking. Unlike protoss or terran, a lot of zerg scouting comes almost for free. Zergs have stopped hiding lings or scouting the terran army, but if the zerg can keep track of the terran army, engage it before they get ready into a siege position eg outside the 4th, before mines are burrowed, and snipe the mines before they get a shot off, that engagement goes far better for zerg. Zvt midgame basically all revolves around one absurd, borderline broken unit called the widow mine, and most standard zvt's are won or lost by a single factor: what the widow mine is connecting with. And the final note re thors: yes they are good but they also have a major weakness, they are fucking slow, just like mech, which is the #1 reason why mech sucks and it's never been a real strategy. Keeping track of a terran army with thors in it should be ludicrously easy for a zerg with all their scouting and highly mobile units. In the present zvt metagame terrans are catching zergs out of position all the time but they really shouldn't be. Terrans are used to thinking positionally because they have to in all their matchups, esp tvt, zergs need to start doing it better and scouting better and I think the matchup will improve a lot for them. | ||
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HEADD
Czech Republic611 Posts
Well patch is out already pretty long.Its 3 months.Not weak but 3 months and zergs still looks like they dont have any idea how beat terran. I think if they didn figure out that in 3 months i call it that terran is just over buffed and OP. Terran never been that strong vs zerg Widow mines are in same position like they was in start of HOTS and everyone consider them Op and blizzard nerf them(why they revert it?) But on top of that they have now hellbat buff-zergs cant have now good early economy. And ANTI muta buff(thor buff). | ||
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catbread
Sweden4 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
Edit There may be typing fails above as my phone believes that by hyun I mean hungary, terran is terrain etc EEdit2 anyone who says she played bad against heart, you're most definitely blind as there was a very delicate balance she had to maintain to survive those games, if anyone thinks they can do better than Scarlett I would pay out of my own pocket to see them try , I'll laugh so hard It's why I found the lr thread on that day absolutely disgusting to put it gently. So much html skill | ||
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sharkie
Austria18443 Posts
Scarlett should have copied more from soO He waits for terrans to get on creep before launching an attack | ||
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