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On April 27 2012 06:22 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 06:04 PlagueWasp wrote:
Looking forward to watching the Iron Lady tourney on Saturday. SlayerS_Eve is playing in it also. I've never watched one before, is it pretty good? Like decent production/casting ? Should be neat to see Eve play as well, I'm not sure we've seen her before. But Scarlett should have it pretty resoundingly I think. :D I hear Aphrodite is good and Flo is pretty good as well but I'm not convinced they'll be enough. ^^
that showmatch turned me off it TBH i cant help but think itll jsut be more of the same
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On April 27 2012 06:22 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 06:04 PlagueWasp wrote:
Looking forward to watching the Iron Lady tourney on Saturday. SlayerS_Eve is playing in it also. I've never watched one before, is it pretty good? Like decent production/casting ? Should be neat to see Eve play as well, I'm not sure we've seen her before. But Scarlett should have it pretty resoundingly I think. :D I hear Aphrodite is good and Flo is pretty good as well but I'm not convinced they'll be enough. ^^
I haven't seen her play, but luway is a 32-5 grandmaster protoss. Seems pretty legit.
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Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you.
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On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you.
T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS
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On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS
i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first
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On April 27 2012 08:57 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first
To be fair, Brood Lords are even better against Marauders than Vikings are against ultralisks :D
More specifically though, I'm curious why some zergs go ultras on maps that seem really bad for them, like Shakuras. I know Stephano used to do it a lot but I think he settled down on it. I'm not sure I've seen a Scarlett game on Shakuras though >_>
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On April 27 2012 09:03 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:57 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first To be fair, Brood Lords are even better against Marauders than Vikings are against ultralisks :D More specifically though, I'm curious why some zergs go ultras on maps that seem really bad for them, like Shakuras. I know Stephano used to do it a lot but I think he settled down on it. I'm not sure I've seen a Scarlett game on Shakuras though >_>
the problem is if you go ultras its alot easier to mess up and if you get a bad engagement you cant be switching to broodlords nearly as fast so you have to keep making ultras
but if you start broodlords it only takes one cycle to switch to ultras who take less time to make then broodlords and its alot more common and hurts there army alot more to overmake vikings then marauders, they overmake marauders they drop them in your base and start blowing up tech structures
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Anyone know when IPL are showing the Eclypsia series? I thought it was supposed to be on now but it doesn't seem to be. :/
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On April 27 2012 09:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:03 Bibbit wrote:On April 27 2012 08:57 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first To be fair, Brood Lords are even better against Marauders than Vikings are against ultralisks :D More specifically though, I'm curious why some zergs go ultras on maps that seem really bad for them, like Shakuras. I know Stephano used to do it a lot but I think he settled down on it. I'm not sure I've seen a Scarlett game on Shakuras though >_> the problem is if you go ultras its alot easier to mess up and if you get a bad engagement you cant be switching to broodlords nearly as fast so you have to keep making ultras but if you start broodlords it only takes one cycle to switch to ultras who take less time to make then broodlords and its alot more common and hurts there army alot more to overmake vikings then marauders, they overmake marauders they drop them in your base and start blowing up tech structures
I'm no zerg expert but I imagine that the counter-argument is that if you go brood lord first, you lose all your bases. :D I know Stephano has said that sometimes he doesnt like Broods because theyre super immobile and its easy to lose a lot to counters/drops and such.
Maybe if we're lucky, Scarlett or even that Hendralisk (sp?) character I've seen post here a few times and who seems to be her bff can shed some light here. ^^
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On April 27 2012 09:25 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:12 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 09:03 Bibbit wrote:On April 27 2012 08:57 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first To be fair, Brood Lords are even better against Marauders than Vikings are against ultralisks :D More specifically though, I'm curious why some zergs go ultras on maps that seem really bad for them, like Shakuras. I know Stephano used to do it a lot but I think he settled down on it. I'm not sure I've seen a Scarlett game on Shakuras though >_> the problem is if you go ultras its alot easier to mess up and if you get a bad engagement you cant be switching to broodlords nearly as fast so you have to keep making ultras but if you start broodlords it only takes one cycle to switch to ultras who take less time to make then broodlords and its alot more common and hurts there army alot more to overmake vikings then marauders, they overmake marauders they drop them in your base and start blowing up tech structures I'm no zerg expert but I imagine that the counter-argument is that if you go brood lord first, you lose all your bases. :D I know Stephano has said that sometimes he doesnt like Broods because theyre super immobile and its easy to lose a lot to counters/drops and such. Maybe if we're lucky, Scarlett or even that Hendralisk (sp?) character I've seen post here a few times and who seems to be her bff can shed some light here. ^^
ultras cant defend drops much better then broodlords since they can barely even engage and need infesters to engage and if the infesters are there then there whats cleaning it up anyway
broodlords are jsut so much better at engaging and forcing an advantage
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On April 27 2012 09:24 Woofsie wrote:
Anyone know when IPL are showing the Eclypsia series? I thought it was supposed to be on now but it doesn't seem to be. :/
It's on right now!
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague
go go go! Game one just finished.
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On April 27 2012 09:33 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:25 Bibbit wrote:On April 27 2012 09:12 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 09:03 Bibbit wrote:On April 27 2012 08:57 Forikorder wrote:On April 27 2012 07:27 Aocowns wrote:On April 27 2012 07:14 Starshaped wrote:
Scarlett, do you ever go mutalisks at all? Of all the replays I've seen it's been roach/infestor or ling/infestor every game. Maybe mutalisks are old-fashioned =S
I've been out of the loop for a few months so I'm not entirely up to date with the current strategies and metagame and what have you. T and P has learned to defend mutas, so they kind of suck right now, Very situation and map dependant. Infestors are used heavily in all match ups at this point, as are heavy upgrades, at least vT. Some roach openings to secure an early 3rd against hellion expos are being used as well, but they all fall back on infestors and upgraded lings. Here's the shocker though: ULTRALISKS i still dont get why they go ultras though seems a thousand times more powerful to go broodlords first then go ultras after forcing viking makes no sense to go ultras first To be fair, Brood Lords are even better against Marauders than Vikings are against ultralisks :D More specifically though, I'm curious why some zergs go ultras on maps that seem really bad for them, like Shakuras. I know Stephano used to do it a lot but I think he settled down on it. I'm not sure I've seen a Scarlett game on Shakuras though >_> the problem is if you go ultras its alot easier to mess up and if you get a bad engagement you cant be switching to broodlords nearly as fast so you have to keep making ultras but if you start broodlords it only takes one cycle to switch to ultras who take less time to make then broodlords and its alot more common and hurts there army alot more to overmake vikings then marauders, they overmake marauders they drop them in your base and start blowing up tech structures I'm no zerg expert but I imagine that the counter-argument is that if you go brood lord first, you lose all your bases. :D I know Stephano has said that sometimes he doesnt like Broods because theyre super immobile and its easy to lose a lot to counters/drops and such. Maybe if we're lucky, Scarlett or even that Hendralisk (sp?) character I've seen post here a few times and who seems to be her bff can shed some light here. ^^ ultras cant defend drops much better then broodlords since they can barely even engage and need infesters to engage and if the infesters are there then there whats cleaning it up anyway broodlords are jsut so much better at engaging and forcing an advantage
Well that's not on me, you'll have to take it up with Stephano. I'm sure you know best though. You should totally tweet him your secret method of actually getting brood lords to defend counters and drops.
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artosis just praised Scarlett for wanting to go through code A ons tate of the game
Well that's not on me, you'll have to take it up with Stephano. I'm sure you know best though. You should totally tweet him your secret method of actually getting brood lords to defend counters and drops.
thanks for the misplaced agression, im jsut commentating on what ive seen and how ive heard every single zerg since beta say ultras are terrible and broods are far better
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I go broodlords first if I opened muta, since I'll already have 2-0 upgrades, but otherwise ultras first, since they share upgrades with zerglings and should be 3-3 right from the start.
Techswitches in general is what makes zerg so strong lategame (at least against terran), so whatever way you go about it you're gonna want to switch a few times and force useless units.
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Damn it. I was looking on the IPL website and couldn't find the stream.
Thanks for the link!
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On April 27 2012 09:56 Woofsie wrote:Damn it. I was looking on the IPL website and couldn't find the stream. Thanks for the link!
Anytime Woofsie! ^^
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Scarlett is playing now v Avenge on IPL stream!
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might get some flack for this, but Scarletts play really resembles IdrAs, her hold against that +2 blink stalker allin was pretty mcuh identical to IdrAs hold against Heros +2 blink stalker all-in in the EGMCSL (relying pretty much entirely on roach/ling with no spines and more for getting good aggressive engagements then sitting behind spines) recently and i believe she said earlier she had problems with transitions in ZvP wich is IdrAs big problem too
kinda interesting to see such similar play
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