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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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WhiteSatin
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TsGBruzze
Sweden1190 Posts
On December 26 2012 16:32 MahE wrote: But this player is playing at like 100 APM, or lower... This has nothing to do with balance. His APM is low and his macro isn't that good. I'm a huge MVP fan but if this is the real MVP I would not be surprised if he never wins a GSL again.. This is NOT Code S level play. are you seious? he is outplaying a map hacker and is crushing people normal pros fail agianst, but only because its mvp you think he is supposed to have 1000 apm or something? he is playing well. | ||
Entirety
1423 Posts
2. I will believe that this is Mvp - LG-IM wouldn't do something so shady. 3. Why would Mvp feel a need to even try? If it's not GSL Code S level of play, that would be because he's not playing in GSL Code S right now - he's giving a lovely Christmas gift to his fans. <3 Mvp schedule: + Show Spoiler + 9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP 22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser | ||
tuho12345
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
On December 26 2012 17:02 Entirety wrote: 1. Mvp's coach said that Mvp is currently undergoing treatment (he said this in the stream). 2. I will believe that this is Mvp - LG-IM wouldn't do something so shady. 3. Why would Mvp feel a need to even try? If it's not GSL Code S level of play, that would be because he's not playing in GSL Code S right now - he's giving a lovely Christmas gift to his fans. <3 Mvp schedule: + Show Spoiler + 9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP 22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser 1. Yay hes undergoing treatment :D 2. Agree 3. Since hes undergoing treatment hes probably playing with his feet 4. OWN3D LAGS SO GODDAMN MUCH FUCK THIS SHIT | ||
TsGBruzze
Sweden1190 Posts
On December 26 2012 17:03 tuho12345 wrote: btw it doesn't look like 100 APMs to me, may be he was a little slow at the beginning but in mid and late game he was truly out-multitasking the other guy with 3 prongs dropships. It was at least 150-200 APMs to me tbh. Also MVP doesn't spam a whole lot or try to move his view too much as other pros glad to see that someone understands that some pros does not spam, like flash. | ||
WhiteSatin
United States308 Posts
anyway he just hold a crazy all-in that the Z player threw at him that 99% of NA T masters would have lost to lol | ||
tuho12345
4482 Posts
On December 26 2012 17:15 WhiteSatin wrote: well this whole thing started because one guy who is probably not that good at the game claimed that the player had 100APM and was floating minerals, neither of which were true. anyway he just hold a crazy all-in that the Z player threw at him that 99% of NA T masters would have lost to lol he had 3 marines, 1 marauders and a bunker at the time. That was crazy lol | ||
aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Entirety
1423 Posts
Normally, Mvp doesn't stream - he doesn't feel an obligation to do so, he can hide his creative new builds and shock the world, he can do focused practice, he doesn't give away unnecessary information. Thus, he continues to perform very well in the highest caliber tournaments of the world - GSL, mainly. But come Christmas time and Mvp leaves us a wonderful gift. <3 Even if he's goofing around, off-race 4v4s on NA ladder, that's fine by me. If I want to see the highest level of Terran play, I'll watch him in the booth. Mvp fighting 2013! Mvp schedule: + Show Spoiler + 9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP 22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser | ||
SecondHand
United States329 Posts
AND THAT IS FUCKING AMAZING I LOVE YOU <33 | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Aunvilgod
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beef666
New Zealand29 Posts
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ferencziffra
Bulgaria29 Posts
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Entirety
1423 Posts
After seeing Mvp's lategame (like Mvp vs. XiGua @ WCG 2011 Game 2 and Mvp vs. NesTea @ BlizzCon 2011 Game 7/the final game), as well as Mvp's stream (I mean that one game where Mvp's coach was playing and then Mvp took over and turned a lost game into Mvp domination as usual), it's really really hard to call Mvp a low-APM progamer. Mvp is known for microing 3-pronged drops + army movement, as well as crazy Nuke harass and one of the best Macro players around (very very few can rival him in Macro, out of all the Terrans, maybe only the BW switch-overs like Flash and Fantasy, as well as perhaps Bomber). His Ghost snipes were high APM, and his Marine splits used to be amazing. In fact, I would say there was no real difference between Mvp's Marine splits and MarineKing's Marine splits - they were both jawdropping. His stutter step micro is beast, making his Bunker pressure really deadly. (If I faced Mvp on ladder as Zerg, I think I would lose to the first few Marines!) Also, this gets overlooked, but Tank positioning isn't that easy - constantly leapfrogging tanks also takes lots of APM. It's only recently that Mvp has shifted away from APM intensive styles (pure Bio), but I don't see how Mvp can be considered a low APM player. Even now, Mvp has plenty of APM - that's probably why his health conditions get worse, his wrist and neck simply can't handle his awesome. Mvp schedule: + Show Spoiler + 9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP 22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser | ||
redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On December 26 2012 16:34 MahE wrote: He didn't 'crush' him though. He just won. These games are not impressive. Even much worse terrans like Demuslim play way faster and better. I don't think this is the real MVP. Why is there no webcam? Seriously GTFO. Why would IM lie? Why would Mvp lie? Neither you nor I can judge how fast he is playing. | ||
SecondHand
United States329 Posts
On December 28 2012 03:39 Entirety wrote: Hehe thank you ILuMiNaTe, being a fan of the King is just too fun! After seeing Mvp's lategame (like Mvp vs. XiGua @ WCG 2011 Game 2 and Mvp vs. NesTea @ BlizzCon 2011 Game 7/the final game), as well as Mvp's stream (I mean that one game where Mvp's coach was playing and then Mvp took over and turned a lost game into Mvp domination as usual), it's really really hard to call Mvp a low-APM progamer. Mvp is known for microing 3-pronged drops + army movement, as well as crazy Nuke harass and one of the best Macro players around (very very few can rival him in Macro, out of all the Terrans, maybe only the BW switch-overs like Flash and Fantasy, as well as perhaps Bomber). His Ghost snipes were high APM, and his Marine splits used to be amazing. In fact, I would say there was no real difference between Mvp's Marine splits and MarineKing's Marine splits - they were both jawdropping. His stutter step micro is beast, making his Bunker pressure really deadly. (If I faced Mvp on ladder as Zerg, I think I would lose to the first few Marines!) Also, this gets overlooked, but Tank positioning isn't that easy - constantly leapfrogging tanks also takes lots of APM. It's only recently that Mvp has shifted away from APM intensive styles (pure Bio), but I don't see how Mvp can be considered a low APM player. Even now, Mvp has plenty of APM - that's probably why his health conditions get worse, his wrist and neck simply can't handle his awesome. Mvp schedule: + Show Spoiler + 9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP 22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser Completely agree with this post.. I dont know why he switched over to mech either, I agree with Mvp on the fact that mech is a very good and viable start, but it would be nice to see him mix it back up once in a while. Zergs are starting to realize that all he does is mech, and their taking advantage of that. | ||
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