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simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
December 26 2012 07:58 GMT
#5041
woo!!
go to hell oblivion
byah!
WhiteSatin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States308 Posts
December 26 2012 08:00 GMT
#5042
that oblivion guy is such a dick O_o
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
December 26 2012 08:00 GMT
#5043
On December 26 2012 16:32 MahE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 16:30 WhiteSatin wrote:
On December 26 2012 16:24 MahE wrote:
this is not the real MVP streaming, kind of lame of IM to have a faker stream.

Or MVP suddenly became diamond level, which I doubt a LOT.


it is on the right, approved by team liquid.
it's got MVP shortcuts and uses LG-overlay
why the hell would it be fake ?

if it's because he's struggling vs a random NA master Z, welcome to the beautiful balance of ZvT (ZvX really)
where even a shitty player, with no multi tasking, no mechanics, can drone up to 90 drones, go hive at 13 min and make 30+ infestors and a-move with ling armies all around the place

i think it's pretty hilarious that you think he's a diamond player, it simply shows how bad the balance of the zerg race currently is lol


But this player is playing at like 100 APM, or lower...

This has nothing to do with balance. His APM is low and his macro isn't that good. I'm a huge MVP fan but if this is the real MVP I would not be surprised if he never wins a GSL again.. This is NOT Code S level play.

are you seious? he is outplaying a map hacker and is crushing people normal pros fail agianst, but only because its mvp you think he is supposed to have 1000 apm or something? he is playing well.
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 26 2012 08:02 GMT
#5044
1. Mvp's coach said that Mvp is currently undergoing treatment (he said this in the stream).

2. I will believe that this is Mvp - LG-IM wouldn't do something so shady.

3. Why would Mvp feel a need to even try? If it's not GSL Code S level of play, that would be because he's not playing in GSL Code S right now - he's giving a lovely Christmas gift to his fans. <3

Mvp schedule:
+ Show Spoiler +
9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP
22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club

TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 26 2012 08:03 GMT
#5045
btw it doesn't look like 100 APMs to me, may be he was a little slow at the beginning but in mid and late game he was truly out-multitasking the other guy with 3 prongs dropships. It was at least 150-200 APMs to me tbh. Also MVP doesn't spam a whole lot or try to move his view too much as other pros
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
December 26 2012 08:03 GMT
#5046
On December 26 2012 17:02 Entirety wrote:
1. Mvp's coach said that Mvp is currently undergoing treatment (he said this in the stream).

2. I will believe that this is Mvp - LG-IM wouldn't do something so shady.

3. Why would Mvp feel a need to even try? If it's not GSL Code S level of play, that would be because he's not playing in GSL Code S right now - he's giving a lovely Christmas gift to his fans. <3

Mvp schedule:
+ Show Spoiler +
9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP
22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club

TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser


1. Yay hes undergoing treatment :D

2. Agree

3. Since hes undergoing treatment hes probably playing with his feet

4. OWN3D LAGS SO GODDAMN MUCH FUCK THIS SHIT
Stop procrastinating
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
December 26 2012 08:05 GMT
#5047
On December 26 2012 17:03 tuho12345 wrote:
btw it doesn't look like 100 APMs to me, may be he was a little slow at the beginning but in mid and late game he was truly out-multitasking the other guy with 3 prongs dropships. It was at least 150-200 APMs to me tbh. Also MVP doesn't spam a whole lot or try to move his view too much as other pros

glad to see that someone understands that some pros does not spam, like flash.
''you got to yolo things up to win''
WhiteSatin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States308 Posts
December 26 2012 08:15 GMT
#5048
well this whole thing started because one guy who is probably not that good at the game claimed that the player had 100APM and was floating minerals, neither of which were true.

anyway he just hold a crazy all-in that the Z player threw at him that 99% of NA T masters would have lost to lol
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 26 2012 08:20 GMT
#5049
On December 26 2012 17:15 WhiteSatin wrote:
well this whole thing started because one guy who is probably not that good at the game claimed that the player had 100APM and was floating minerals, neither of which were true.

anyway he just hold a crazy all-in that the Z player threw at him that 99% of NA T masters would have lost to lol

he had 3 marines, 1 marauders and a bunker at the time. That was crazy lol
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 26 2012 08:22 GMT
#5050
yayy Mvp streaming
can i get my estro logo back pls
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
December 26 2012 09:00 GMT
#5051
I dont get get it why he has such low viewers. I like was so happy when i saw LGIMMvp in the right side. Hope he gets 8k+
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 26 2012 21:42 GMT
#5052
Personally, I like the current system.

Normally, Mvp doesn't stream - he doesn't feel an obligation to do so, he can hide his creative new builds and shock the world, he can do focused practice, he doesn't give away unnecessary information. Thus, he continues to perform very well in the highest caliber tournaments of the world - GSL, mainly.

But come Christmas time and Mvp leaves us a wonderful gift. <3 Even if he's goofing around, off-race 4v4s on NA ladder, that's fine by me. If I want to see the highest level of Terran play, I'll watch him in the booth.

Mvp fighting 2013!

Mvp schedule:
+ Show Spoiler +
9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP
22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club

TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
December 26 2012 22:16 GMT
#5053
Entirety, I have to say, you have probably the biggest boner for a professional gamer out there....

AND THAT IS FUCKING AMAZING

I LOVE YOU <33
Ladder more, win less
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 01:09:59
December 27 2012 01:09 GMT
#5054
any vods of the stream? wasn't able to get on a computer for the past 2 days
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 27 2012 02:21 GMT
#5055
In the replays of IEM Colonge he had about 300 average apm.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
beef666
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand29 Posts
December 27 2012 02:52 GMT
#5056
Stream was awesome ty MVP, i reckon he would've got more viewers on twitch but who knows.
ferencziffra
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria29 Posts
December 27 2012 02:52 GMT
#5057
Find it funny people discussing a beast of a player who actually believe it or not has 350 apm in avg in any replay of the past year you could get a hold of, calling him bad and low-speed. LOL'd big time.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 27 2012 18:39 GMT
#5058
Hehe thank you ILuMiNaTe, being a fan of the King is just too fun!

After seeing Mvp's lategame (like Mvp vs. XiGua @ WCG 2011 Game 2 and Mvp vs. NesTea @ BlizzCon 2011 Game 7/the final game), as well as Mvp's stream (I mean that one game where Mvp's coach was playing and then Mvp took over and turned a lost game into Mvp domination as usual), it's really really hard to call Mvp a low-APM progamer.

Mvp is known for microing 3-pronged drops + army movement, as well as crazy Nuke harass and one of the best Macro players around (very very few can rival him in Macro, out of all the Terrans, maybe only the BW switch-overs like Flash and Fantasy, as well as perhaps Bomber).

His Ghost snipes were high APM, and his Marine splits used to be amazing. In fact, I would say there was no real difference between Mvp's Marine splits and MarineKing's Marine splits - they were both jawdropping. His stutter step micro is beast, making his Bunker pressure really deadly. (If I faced Mvp on ladder as Zerg, I think I would lose to the first few Marines!) Also, this gets overlooked, but Tank positioning isn't that easy - constantly leapfrogging tanks also takes lots of APM.

It's only recently that Mvp has shifted away from APM intensive styles (pure Bio), but I don't see how Mvp can be considered a low APM player. Even now, Mvp has plenty of APM - that's probably why his health conditions get worse, his wrist and neck simply can't handle his awesome.

Mvp schedule:
+ Show Spoiler +
9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP
22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club

TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 27 2012 19:27 GMT
#5059
On December 26 2012 16:34 MahE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 16:33 tuho12345 wrote:
On December 26 2012 16:29 MahE wrote:
On December 26 2012 16:28 TsGBruzze wrote:
diamond level? mvp is dominating, he failed in early but he was so damn good so he made a huge comeback in tvz and that is not supposed to be happening in a tvz


Do you really think this is MVP? .. This player has 100 APM and floats 1200/1000 at like 10 minutes.

If this is MVP, this is not the same MVP who won 4 GSLs.

come on dude just some random NA scrubs, MVP just wanna please his fans and promote his sponsors. He doesn't take this seriously. That Zerg bm'ed him and he proceeded to crush him like a bitch didn't u see that?


He didn't 'crush' him though. He just won. These games are not impressive. Even much worse terrans like Demuslim play way faster and better. I don't think this is the real MVP. Why is there no webcam?


Seriously GTFO. Why would IM lie? Why would Mvp lie?

Neither you nor I can judge how fast he is playing.
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
December 27 2012 19:35 GMT
#5060
On December 28 2012 03:39 Entirety wrote:
Hehe thank you ILuMiNaTe, being a fan of the King is just too fun!

After seeing Mvp's lategame (like Mvp vs. XiGua @ WCG 2011 Game 2 and Mvp vs. NesTea @ BlizzCon 2011 Game 7/the final game), as well as Mvp's stream (I mean that one game where Mvp's coach was playing and then Mvp took over and turned a lost game into Mvp domination as usual), it's really really hard to call Mvp a low-APM progamer.

Mvp is known for microing 3-pronged drops + army movement, as well as crazy Nuke harass and one of the best Macro players around (very very few can rival him in Macro, out of all the Terrans, maybe only the BW switch-overs like Flash and Fantasy, as well as perhaps Bomber).

His Ghost snipes were high APM, and his Marine splits used to be amazing. In fact, I would say there was no real difference between Mvp's Marine splits and MarineKing's Marine splits - they were both jawdropping. His stutter step micro is beast, making his Bunker pressure really deadly. (If I faced Mvp on ladder as Zerg, I think I would lose to the first few Marines!) Also, this gets overlooked, but Tank positioning isn't that easy - constantly leapfrogging tanks also takes lots of APM.

It's only recently that Mvp has shifted away from APM intensive styles (pure Bio), but I don't see how Mvp can be considered a low APM player. Even now, Mvp has plenty of APM - that's probably why his health conditions get worse, his wrist and neck simply can't handle his awesome.

Mvp schedule:
+ Show Spoiler +
9/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. MVP
22/1/13 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Premier_Division Group Stage: Incredible Miracle vs. Karont3 e-Sports Club

TBD Iron Squid - Chapter II Round of 16: Mvp vs. Goswser


Completely agree with this post.. I dont know why he switched over to mech either, I agree with Mvp on the fact that mech is a very good and viable start, but it would be nice to see him mix it back up once in a while. Zergs are starting to realize that all he does is mech, and their taking advantage of that.
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