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On January 22 2012 08:36 Labbetuss wrote:
Shit. Did we jinx Naniwa? T_T
haha i was thinking about that too. So much expectations + that storybook or whatever someone did that hyped it up even more. (Even though it was awesome and funny).
bah..... he'll be back though im sure of it. Just hope he get's rid of those nerves and that he stops being afraid of being cheesed.
Somehow i feel like those games vs Leenock in the final @ Providence planted a seed of insecurity in NaNiwa's mind. That maybe he began to doubt himself. I don't know about this though im just speculating. Feels like he needs to stop being scared of cheese and weird tactics. And maybe get some new and different tactics himself.
Im not the pro here though so...... im just trying to analyze abit. And i wish you all the best NaNiwa! I really hope you can come back strong from this and OWN 2012! <3 (oh damn sorry that wasn't meant as a jinx ^^)
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The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed.
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On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed.
Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad
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On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad
If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple.
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Yonnua no-brainer comment
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On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple.
You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing.
The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside.
There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust.
It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust.
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Quite an impressive W/L ratio today on ladder (64% in the last 25 games). Them Koreans won't know what hit them!
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Naniwa enters the fray....
shit just got real
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Does anyone know what mouse, keyboard and mousepad he has?
It looks like the Razer Arctosa, Deathadder.. not sure about the pad?
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On January 24 2012 21:58 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple. You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing. The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside. There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust. It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust.
4 speedlings will but 4 lings won't. If the protoss micros his zealot which they should do because all protosses say that their race requires alot of micro, micro as in kiting the lings then the zealot will win.
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On January 29 2012 20:17 Olsson wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 21:58 Seraphone wrote:On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple. You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing. The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside. There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust. It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust. 4 speedlings will but 4 lings won't. If the protoss micros his zealot which they should do because all protosses say that their race requires alot of micro, micro as in kiting the lings then the zealot will win.
Not really if both micro neither wins.
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EWM Y/N/MYBE?
Does anyone know anything about it?
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On February 01 2012 03:53 Mindor wrote:
EWM Y/N/MYBE?
Does anyone know anything about it?
Excuse me but what are you asking?
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On January 24 2012 21:58 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple. You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing. The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside. There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust. It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust.
well thanks for talking down on me in my own fanclub. Dont talk about shit you have no clue about. I guess huk also didnt scout enough in todays game ? pathetic.
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On February 01 2012 03:58 Naniwa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 21:58 Seraphone wrote:On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple. You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing. The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside. There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust. It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust. well thanks for talking down on me in my own fanclub. Dont talk about shit you have no clue about. I guess huk also didnt scout enough in todays game ? pathetic.
He's probably just mad because you said you'd stream after IEM and you haven't yet. Get SaSe to do so as well while you're at it :p.
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On February 01 2012 03:58 Naniwa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 21:58 Seraphone wrote:On January 24 2012 20:14 Yonnua wrote:On January 24 2012 19:58 normalman wrote:On January 24 2012 19:30 Thombur wrote:
The way it seems in all PvZ atm is FFE is only way too keep up economically with zerg, but if you FFE and zerg does anything but drone up you're screwed. Not necessarily, but if you try to play too safe and zerg just drones, you are screwed I guess. The answer should be in scouting but against a decent zerg, it's just too easy to deny scouting and zerg can have a decent army to attack so quickly. I guess I'd like to see a viable way of early game scouting the zerg - observer and hallucination come too late and relying on zealots or probes is relying on zerg either letting you see everything or being bad If he has enough in the early game to kill a zealot scout, he's not going pure drones. Simple. You only need 4 lings to kill a Zealot. A Zerg will get 4 lings regardless of what he is doing. The key is to send a Zealot and a probe or two and make multiple attempts to sneak something inside. There was a game at Dreamhack between I think Hero and DRG where the casters really focused on how extensively Hero was scouting with his first Zealot and acommpanying probes to check for any kind of bust. It was certainly a lot more effort than Naniwa puts into it, which probably explains why I can't remember Hero losing to a bust. well thanks for talking down on me in my own fanclub. Dont talk about shit you have no clue about. I guess huk also didnt scout enough in todays game ? pathetic.
Your still a beast waiting to tear another pro tournament apart. I got faith in you :D
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On February 01 2012 03:57 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 03:53 Mindor wrote:
EWM Y/N/MYBE?
Does anyone know anything about it? Excuse me but what are you asking?
Sorry, I was running late. It's top on community news, GSL created another weekly that gives Code A spot for the winner:
This is it in case it's not there any more...
There are quite a few notable names confirmed, not Nani though.
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It seems that Naniwa has been playing some random 2v2s? :p
EDIT: Nevermind. Sc2ranks is being difficult and lying. ^^;
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Please add me to the fan club. Thanks!
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