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On December 01 2011 13:40 bumwithagun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 13:35 Mczeppo wrote:On December 01 2011 03:56 bigbeau wrote:
I love HuKs play, and I actually think he's the best foreigner and best current protoss player in the world, but I realized watching his stream yesterday. He makes SC2 look so god damn difficult sometimes! He depends on his control and sometimes I swear he makes it look like hes bad at the game. Compare to like Idra who just methodically does his stuff/macro/injects/scouting. Nothing is rushed or anything, it's just like hes playing calm. Watching whitera was the same thing.
It's like the basketball player who dribbles around doing every single one of his moves and then ends up finally scoring 2 points compared to the basketball player who makes one move and gets to the rim. Both score 2 points, but god damn the latter is easier.
Like I said, I really enjoy Huk, and root for him but that's just something I noticed recently, and I think he could improve his play in that manner. wtf... i agree with the original poster. Huk plays a highly risky style that requires isane control to pull off. His one gate expo's in pvt or his 1 gate expo in pvz or his gateway heavy style in both matchups. He puts himself in spots where he NEEDS to have perfect control to survive. Its part of his charm 
Have to agree with this for sure. Whenever I watch his stream, he really has much faster control and riskier spots that depend on this perfect control. Even in watching some of his gsl games, you can see he really pushes his builds to the edge like blind nexus first vs zerg or 1 gate expo vs gas first zergs. They are really risky because they require absolute perfect unit control to survive the multiple options zergs can throw at you but huk seems to really like putting himself in those demanding spots to try to gain whatever edge he can.
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On December 01 2011 13:40 bumwithagun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 13:35 Mczeppo wrote:On December 01 2011 03:56 bigbeau wrote:
I love HuKs play, and I actually think he's the best foreigner and best current protoss player in the world, but I realized watching his stream yesterday. He makes SC2 look so god damn difficult sometimes! He depends on his control and sometimes I swear he makes it look like hes bad at the game. Compare to like Idra who just methodically does his stuff/macro/injects/scouting. Nothing is rushed or anything, it's just like hes playing calm. Watching whitera was the same thing.
It's like the basketball player who dribbles around doing every single one of his moves and then ends up finally scoring 2 points compared to the basketball player who makes one move and gets to the rim. Both score 2 points, but god damn the latter is easier.
Like I said, I really enjoy Huk, and root for him but that's just something I noticed recently, and I think he could improve his play in that manner. wtf... i agree with the original poster. Huk plays a highly risky style that requires isane control to pull off. His one gate expo's in pvt or his 1 gate expo in pvz or his gateway heavy style in both matchups. He puts himself in spots where he NEEDS to have perfect control to survive. Its part of his charm
Ye idd he typically stays away from high tech units like colossus and motherships until really quite late too, relying sometimes unnecessarily on gateway control and upgrades especially in pvz which to me it seems highly non intuitive v the way zergs mechanics works and how they are supposed to trade low tech cheap armys v the higher costing less effective low tech toss mid game armys until toss gets t3 and then z goes for broods and toss should go for mothership+archon.
He seems to just stay on t2 too long and either gets run over by the more cost effiecient less micro intensive zerg t2 or techs too late v a zerg who gets broods
Thats just my opinion on his pvz though, his pvt and pvp are both awesome though when he plays standard. But I feel what puts naniwa a little bit ahead of him is the fact naniwa doesnt give a shit if colossus or SG units are sometimes boring or one dimensional to play he plays to win with effective logical gameplans while huk lets his feelings and persona affect his playstyle sometimes to much.
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On December 01 2011 14:04 Zefa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 13:40 bumwithagun wrote:On December 01 2011 13:35 Mczeppo wrote:On December 01 2011 03:56 bigbeau wrote:
I love HuKs play, and I actually think he's the best foreigner and best current protoss player in the world, but I realized watching his stream yesterday. He makes SC2 look so god damn difficult sometimes! He depends on his control and sometimes I swear he makes it look like hes bad at the game. Compare to like Idra who just methodically does his stuff/macro/injects/scouting. Nothing is rushed or anything, it's just like hes playing calm. Watching whitera was the same thing.
It's like the basketball player who dribbles around doing every single one of his moves and then ends up finally scoring 2 points compared to the basketball player who makes one move and gets to the rim. Both score 2 points, but god damn the latter is easier.
Like I said, I really enjoy Huk, and root for him but that's just something I noticed recently, and I think he could improve his play in that manner. wtf... i agree with the original poster. Huk plays a highly risky style that requires isane control to pull off. His one gate expo's in pvt or his 1 gate expo in pvz or his gateway heavy style in both matchups. He puts himself in spots where he NEEDS to have perfect control to survive. Its part of his charm Have to agree with this for sure. Whenever I watch his stream, he really has much faster control and riskier spots that depend on this perfect control. Even in watching some of his gsl games, you can see he really pushes his builds to the edge like blind nexus first vs zerg or 1 gate expo vs gas first zergs. They are really risky because they require absolute perfect unit control to survive the multiple options zergs can throw at you but huk seems to really like putting himself in those demanding spots to try to gain whatever edge he can.
yea, thats why im a fan, because i do the exact same thing......except i die T_T
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On December 01 2011 14:04 Zefa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 13:40 bumwithagun wrote:On December 01 2011 13:35 Mczeppo wrote:On December 01 2011 03:56 bigbeau wrote:
I love HuKs play, and I actually think he's the best foreigner and best current protoss player in the world, but I realized watching his stream yesterday. He makes SC2 look so god damn difficult sometimes! He depends on his control and sometimes I swear he makes it look like hes bad at the game. Compare to like Idra who just methodically does his stuff/macro/injects/scouting. Nothing is rushed or anything, it's just like hes playing calm. Watching whitera was the same thing.
It's like the basketball player who dribbles around doing every single one of his moves and then ends up finally scoring 2 points compared to the basketball player who makes one move and gets to the rim. Both score 2 points, but god damn the latter is easier.
Like I said, I really enjoy Huk, and root for him but that's just something I noticed recently, and I think he could improve his play in that manner. wtf... i agree with the original poster. Huk plays a highly risky style that requires isane control to pull off. His one gate expo's in pvt or his 1 gate expo in pvz or his gateway heavy style in both matchups. He puts himself in spots where he NEEDS to have perfect control to survive. Its part of his charm Have to agree with this for sure. Whenever I watch his stream, he really has much faster control and riskier spots that depend on this perfect control. Even in watching some of his gsl games, you can see he really pushes his builds to the edge like blind nexus first vs zerg or 1 gate expo vs gas first zergs. They are really risky because they require absolute perfect unit control to survive the multiple options zergs can throw at you but huk seems to really like putting himself in those demanding spots to try to gain whatever edge he can.
u are absoluitely right, Huk's riskier style make his playstyle unique, and if HuK will posses his style some time, then he will unbeatble, i bet
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Hey HuK fans, I'm trying to find out exactly when HuK made the 'top 3 control' statement to be cited in Liquipedia. Seems to be from Assembly Winter 2011, but I'm having trouble finding the actual interview.
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In response to comments above, I have to agree that Huk's risky style is correct for him. The way I think about it is likening it to a competitive advantage in a business environment, what is Huk's competitive advantage? His control. His macro may not be as strong as some other players such as Bomber or MC but he can lever himself above them by taking risks that feed into a macro advantage using superior control.
I highly respect Huk's play, he is my favourite player and i make sure i watch every game he plays in a tournament
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So, NASL starts today, seeing huks style he will either win it all or get knocked out the first round.
lets hope its the first of the two.
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I am a huge huk fan and this saddens me so much ((....lateley he has been losing everything ((
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On December 03 2011 08:46 SolomonKane wrote:I am a huge huk fan and this saddens me so much ((....lateley he has been losing everything ((
ehhh only his PvP has been slumping, only other big tournament he lost besides PvP was against LEENOCK...
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Missed the games, and just saw that HuK was indeed eliminated
Could someone perhaps elaborate on the games? Was it a good series? Did HuK seem to be playing at his highest level?
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Does anyone have the build order for Huk's shattered temple? Where despite hasuobs trying to 4gate from inside huk's main, huk still manages to win? From what I got he normal-produced 5-6 stalkers from gates and before finally finishing warpgate... Detailed b-o would be appreciated.
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On December 01 2011 15:06 decerto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 13:40 bumwithagun wrote:On December 01 2011 13:35 Mczeppo wrote:On December 01 2011 03:56 bigbeau wrote:
I love HuKs play, and I actually think he's the best foreigner and best current protoss player in the world, but I realized watching his stream yesterday. He makes SC2 look so god damn difficult sometimes! He depends on his control and sometimes I swear he makes it look like hes bad at the game. Compare to like Idra who just methodically does his stuff/macro/injects/scouting. Nothing is rushed or anything, it's just like hes playing calm. Watching whitera was the same thing.
It's like the basketball player who dribbles around doing every single one of his moves and then ends up finally scoring 2 points compared to the basketball player who makes one move and gets to the rim. Both score 2 points, but god damn the latter is easier.
Like I said, I really enjoy Huk, and root for him but that's just something I noticed recently, and I think he could improve his play in that manner. wtf... i agree with the original poster. Huk plays a highly risky style that requires isane control to pull off. His one gate expo's in pvt or his 1 gate expo in pvz or his gateway heavy style in both matchups. He puts himself in spots where he NEEDS to have perfect control to survive. Its part of his charm Ye idd he typically stays away from high tech units like colossus and motherships until really quite late too, relying sometimes unnecessarily on gateway control and upgrades especially in pvz which to me it seems highly non intuitive v the way zergs mechanics works and how they are supposed to trade low tech cheap armys v the higher costing less effective low tech toss mid game armys until toss gets t3 and then z goes for broods and toss should go for mothership+archon. He seems to just stay on t2 too long and either gets run over by the more cost effiecient less micro intensive zerg t2 or techs too late v a zerg who gets broods Thats just my opinion on his pvz though, his pvt and pvp are both awesome though when he plays standard. But I feel what puts naniwa a little bit ahead of him is the fact naniwa doesnt give a shit if colossus or SG units are sometimes boring or one dimensional to play he plays to win with effective logical gameplans while huk lets his feelings and persona affect his playstyle sometimes to much.
its probably because his macro/decision making is still the weakest part of his game, so he tries to end the game early or emphasize control. his micro and game sense are world-class, but he still doesnt macro well enough. maybe its because of all the koreans he's trained against though; hes ridiculously good early game, but weak mid/late game.
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how is he gonna beat keen at this rate?? we need huk's intelligent play back, rather than relying on his opponent making mistakes
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On December 03 2011 10:07 ThePlayer33 wrote:
how is he gonna beat keen at this rate?? we need huk's intelligent play back, rather than relying on his opponent making mistakes
pvp calm down.
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On December 03 2011 10:07 ThePlayer33 wrote:
how is he gonna beat keen at this rate?? we need huk's intelligent play back, rather than relying on his opponent making mistakes
LOL huk's PvT is pretty good you know...
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On December 03 2011 09:25 W2 wrote:
Does anyone have the build order for Huk's shattered temple? Where despite hasuobs trying to 4gate from inside huk's main, huk still manages to win? From what I got he normal-produced 5-6 stalkers from gates and before finally finishing warpgate... Detailed b-o would be appreciated.
Can't tell you an exact build order, you put your gateway and cyber and skip your zealot, when your cyber is up you you start warpgate and a stalker. When you have 300 minerals you drop two more gates and you start another stalker, then all three gates are done with warpgate 2/3 the way done and you start a stalker in each gateway. Then you have 5 stalkers, and warpgate is done and depending one what you see you warp in 3 stalkers, or 1 stalker and a sentry or two to FF your ramp.
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unlucky with all the first round pvp match ups huk.... rest up and practice hard and take down keen! Huk Fighting!
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I feel so sad about Huk's recent results :/ still GL vs Keen
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Does anyone know HUk's music playlists? A link would be excellent! :D
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