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Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
June 19 2011 22:08 GMT
#15441
I find it repeatedly amusing that some players think they can stay on top with minimal practice. Idra has said he trains 3-4 hours a day and that may keep him on top of foreigner scene for a while. I don't really blame him for doing that, I know I wouldn't work more than 4 hours a day if I wouldn't have to, but in corporate world its not about talent but hours. Maybe the new team house for EG will force them to have more discipline in practice, seems like Scoots will be cracking the whip a bit
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 22:15:58
June 19 2011 22:09 GMT
#15442
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to hate a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that
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Powerforged2
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada48 Posts
June 19 2011 22:15 GMT
#15443
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.


Winnipeg, MB (GO JETS GO!!!)
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 22:19:23
June 19 2011 22:17 GMT
#15444
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.




He doesn't care about the spotlight at all.

He has said many times on SOTG that he simply doesn't find Starcraft 2 to be as fun as SC1.

He is much better at SC2 comparatively to koreans than in SC1, but he still seems to hate the game regardless.
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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 19 2011 22:18 GMT
#15445
This thread becomes a massive shitstorm after every series that Idra loses. Most of the posts in the past ten pages should be heavily moderated... sure there have been temp bans but there's a lot that shouldn't be left unnoticed. This thread is NOT a balance whine thread, but it certainly attracts these kinds of posts.

Having said that, Idra played decently given his condition. Losing 0-2 to MC isn't a good thing, but the way in which he lost was miles ahead of what he pulled at MLG.

Congrackulations for a good tournament showing
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
June 19 2011 22:19 GMT
#15446
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.



As much as I've heard, he was the best foreigner in the later days, and since he lived in CJ Entus' team-house, he was always expected to crush most other foreigners. He was, however, a B-teamer, and never played any televised games.
Get crunk
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
June 19 2011 22:23 GMT
#15447
On June 20 2011 07:19 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.



As much as I've heard, he was the best foreigner in the later days, and since he lived in CJ Entus' team-house, he was always expected to crush most other foreigners. He was, however, a B-teamer, and never played any televised games.



As a long time sc1 veteran observer(lol). i can tell you no, he never had that much "pressure" on him, the foreign sc1 community was a lot smaller and a lot diffenrent from nowadays
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
June 19 2011 22:29 GMT
#15448
On June 20 2011 06:05 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:58 pt wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:53 Milqman wrote:
Honestly...I don't know what to think of IdrA anymore... his unit composition and battle micro seems weak... his "macro" is strong? at what...keeping his money low and then getting slaughtered with pure roach?

His ZvT is strong looking, his ZvZ has moments of brilliance, but it is almost like he doesn't know what to build and when in ZvP even when he's wayyyyyyyy ahead.


What else can you make? Lings and hydras would get evaporated by colossi/stalker. Roaches have good health and are cheap.


you must not have been watching ZvPs lately, theres strong compositions vs Protoss. Ling hydra is not it lol.

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:02 Mailing wrote:
To people still talking about Losira, he all-in'ed mc and does it almost every game before MC can take a third. Yes, these are in fact all-in and not pressure builds, they are reliant on ending the game and if protoss is able to stabilize and make tech units, he is dead.

From fast roach/ling, to nydus or fast drops, etc.

So yeah, lesson learned for idra, never play macro games against protoss. Find some good all-ins like the nestea spine rush or mass bane drops or something... muta/ling and R/H/C doesn't work against competent protoss able to use blink at a high level.



Never play macro games against protoss?
Sen would like to disagree, while he also complains about Protoss timing pushes he doesnt complain about late game ZvP and he can handle a 200/200 protoss army just fine.


theres a difference between handling european/na protoss and MC lol.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#15449
On June 20 2011 07:23 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:19 KvltMan wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.



As much as I've heard, he was the best foreigner in the later days, and since he lived in CJ Entus' team-house, he was always expected to crush most other foreigners. He was, however, a B-teamer, and never played any televised games.



As a long time sc1 veteran observer(lol). i can tell you no, he never had that much "pressure" on him, the foreign sc1 community was a lot smaller and a lot diffenrent from nowadays

Yeah he did, remember the shitstorm after f91 destroyed him in liquibition? There were other examples as well.

To the guy above, he actually played a televised series (lost 1-2 to some 13 year old korean!)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#15450
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.




pressure wise no, he doesn't care about that kind of stuff. But he was considered the best foreigner and a lot of people payed attention to his player.

But I feel his feelings a bit, because in sc1 the skill gap was huge, if you were the better player you would win. In sc2 its not so much because there's so much gimicky things you can do that can be auto loss instantly.

I mean I can understand his feelings I wish half the time that bw had gotten as much if not more esports attention over here then sc2 but oh well sc2 is a good game and I'm pretty sure he likes it but he definitely prefers sc1 which nobody can blame him for ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 19 2011 22:32 GMT
#15451
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



Yeah i mean winning IPL, highest placing foreigner at MLG columbus, eh, he just doesn't care right?

Give the man a break. He loses one series to the best protoss in the world and everyone starts saying he "doesn't care"

wtf.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 19 2011 22:35 GMT
#15452
On June 20 2011 07:32 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



Yeah i mean winning IPL, highest placing foreigner at MLG columbus, eh, he just doesn't care right?

Give the man a break. He loses one series to the best protoss in the world and everyone starts saying he "doesn't care"

wtf.

Agreed and as an MC fan, I was scared multiple times during that short series, it really looked like idra was just completely outplaying him at times. It's not like he was playing really bad or anything, he was putting up a good fight vs the best protoss in the world..
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
June 19 2011 22:37 GMT
#15453
anybody have a dreamhack interview with idra yet?
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
June 19 2011 22:43 GMT
#15454
On June 20 2011 07:37 CosmicHippo wrote:
anybody have a dreamhack interview with idra yet?


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjee4e_dh-summer-2011-interview-de-idra_videogames
Enjoy
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 19 2011 22:46 GMT
#15455
On June 20 2011 07:31 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:23 isleyofthenorth wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:19 KvltMan wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:15 Powerforged2 wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:09 Mailing wrote:
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



He seems extremely happy when talking about SC1 though, it's SC2 he seems to late a lot =/

Maybe he is waiting for HOTS to make as big a judgment as that



I really don't know much about the SC1 community or it's players but was idra in the spotlight as much as he is now? The poor guy has so much pressure on him to win nowadays that he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.



As much as I've heard, he was the best foreigner in the later days, and since he lived in CJ Entus' team-house, he was always expected to crush most other foreigners. He was, however, a B-teamer, and never played any televised games.



As a long time sc1 veteran observer(lol). i can tell you no, he never had that much "pressure" on him, the foreign sc1 community was a lot smaller and a lot diffenrent from nowadays

Yeah he did, remember the shitstorm after f91 destroyed him in liquibition? There were other examples as well.

To the guy above, he actually played a televised series (lost 1-2 to some 13 year old korean!)


Ye a fucking DT dropper, son of a bitch.


User was warned for this post
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 19 2011 22:47 GMT
#15456
On June 20 2011 07:43 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:37 CosmicHippo wrote:
anybody have a dreamhack interview with idra yet?


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjee4e_dh-summer-2011-interview-de-idra_videogames
Enjoy


Lol

Are you worried about anyone?

"I really don't want to play any protosses and koreans will be very hard"

Proceeds to get the best korean protoss in the world again.

Really think IdrA would have made Ro4~ if he got Ret's bracket place
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Powerforged2
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada48 Posts
June 19 2011 22:55 GMT
#15457
On June 20 2011 07:32 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:03 Powerforged2 wrote:
To be honest I just don't think idra cares anymore. You can kind of tell in his play. I'm a huge idra fan and because of that I think he should take a break from the game if he is truly unhappy enough to not give a shit about performing anymore.

Basically idra's train of thought is, "well i'm not gonna win this so why bother trying"

Idra, if you're reading, Take a break dude, clear your head and think hard about what you want out of the rest of your life, seems you are not happy doing this anymore, and if you are and you want to be successful at it with tourney wins and great performances.. move back to Korea the NA ladder is dragging you down



Yeah i mean winning IPL, highest placing foreigner at MLG columbus, eh, he just doesn't care right?

Give the man a break. He loses one series to the best protoss in the world and everyone starts saying he "doesn't care"

wtf.



Hey man, I hope you're right and that he does care, hopefully I am over reacting to the situation. But if you don't love what you're doing as a job, pro-gamer, drive through window, gas jockey, whatever it shows through your work ethic and is not good for your health if you are always upset that you have to go to work knowing that you are gonna hate doing your job.

Anyways, I get the feeling that idra doesn't love his job and it shows through his games and interviews. If I just left half way through a job because I got frustrated for some reason my boss would have my ass.

Maybe EG need to put more responsibilities on it's employees or face consequences no matter how popular you are.

Whatevs to each his own I guess
Winnipeg, MB (GO JETS GO!!!)
Oldern
Profile Joined February 2011
Hungary21 Posts
June 19 2011 22:57 GMT
#15458
Wow at this 100% focus and Girlfriend canceling each other bullshit. Wow.
Reality is this, guys: pro sportsmen all over the world has girlfriends. Yes, they have sex. Yes, that takes time. Yes, they even go to see a movie every once in a while. Yes, even SCII pro players need to stand up and go to the store to buy food.

BW is a result of putting youths in near-prisonlike situations and enforcing them to become mechanical monsters. SCII is not that game. Idra does not need to abandon his GF -in fact, I think his playstyle chang is partially thanks to her influence. In MLG, I saw a new Idra in the group plays, but his old style has been staying so long that it crept back. Same in this event. In time, he will stop the old habits, but having a GF can only help by providing a solid background in real life.

Also, I hate myself for GF-ing girlfriends when GF automatically activates the braincells of mine where FFVIII data is "stored". Damn.
EightyFive
Profile Joined May 2011
58 Posts
June 19 2011 22:57 GMT
#15459
On June 20 2011 07:43 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:37 CosmicHippo wrote:
anybody have a dreamhack interview with idra yet?


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjee4e_dh-summer-2011-interview-de-idra_videogames
Enjoy


Not to open a can of worms but in that interview I saw an extremely polite IdrA. He usually gives a sneer to someone in most of his interviews, but damn, this was awkward to see from Greg. Such a manner, like a little schoolboy.
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 23:05:24
June 19 2011 23:03 GMT
#15460
On June 20 2011 05:33 j4ckd4v13z wrote:
what the fuck was that.. dt rush fails --> blink stalker beats everything

fuck you blizzard

User was temp banned for this post.


he has a point though. the cost effectiveness of blink stalkers against pretty much every lair tech is kinda ourageous. you cant even win with hydra ling in a lot of cases

E: he didnt play well in game 2 just speaking generally
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