On May 05 2011 07:50 starsucks wrote: Don't tell me. I know I'm terran myself and know the advantage. But why didn't idrA tell his viewers that. He knew something like that would come and he played pool first. He simply screwed up and that's the situation where you tell your viewers what you did wrong and how you can prevent that and don't go out without saying anything like this was an absolutely unstoppable tactic.
Watch this: It's not the same level (but high masters at least) and it shows how it can go differently.
you realize close posi as a much bigger deal then cross for that push?
and by the way i dont watch his stream to learn his strategys i wanna see the rageing and honest idra i like
why dont you buy a lesson if you want his insights?
Could you pick the header style you prefer for you fanclub?
Basically it you have to choose between having no flags at all, one single flag or having lots of flags. Designing something with eagles on it is always an option as well.
Cheers
Original Message From IdrA: i prefer the 2nd one, with no flags, of those. but eagles sound intriguing.
On May 05 2011 08:25 starsucks wrote: Wasn't close position but close air position. Hm 300 $? U MAD BRO???? XD
Take a break from this thread and come back when you're ready to treat is as a fanclub again. Your most recent posts here have only been you complaining about how IdrA doesn't "do" enough for us (no Q&A, so what?), how he doesn't communicate properly to us (he's doing it as a favour), and then you are trying to tell him about holding off cheese differently.
You're complaining about IdrA. In his fanclub thread. Please stop.
On May 04 2011 17:12 Tyrant0 wrote: It's exactly this sort of narrow line of thinking that cements the fact that Idra won't be the zerg to shift the meta game any time soon, when no one else plays into his make 3 spinecrawlers and 0 attacking units until 3 bases are fully saturated.
Are you retarded? What's the last IdrA game you watched?
Are you retarded? This is what IdrA was debating on sotg: the option to not over commit to building units for defense, and for spine crawlers to finish on time upon detecting a rush in conjunction with a lack of scouting for said rush. I don't need to watch him doing uncharacteristic all-ins to know its what he was arguing for in the realm of balance, douche.
aside from your bold assumption that i didn't watch any of his recent games
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Idra uses Spanishiwa's builds, but modifies them first. And that aside, if you actually did listen on SOTG, he talked about this. Basically, Spanishiwa's style is very safe, but it allows the opponent to get up on bases against Zerg. Obviously this isn't a good thing.
Right now people may not counter it with an expansion, but once a guy like Idra starts doing it they will. People spend weeks coming up with ways to beat Idra. They don't for Spanishiwa.
On May 05 2011 05:34 smallerk wrote: Listening to idra today made me realize actually how little i know about this game, and how wrong i was to think i actually did. Also was so awesome to see that he doesnt get mad at all when he loses to silly things like bunker wall in, he just gets suprised everytime he sees a new dumb all in and doesnt even care.
That's what I was thinking the whole time.
He can SEE so much more than I when he scouts..... and overall, he has such knowledge that it is really mind boggling. Never saw something like this.
Idra made the point, several times, that one of the problems with zerg, is that spine crawlers take too long to build and don't finish in time for rushes, and that zerg falls behind economically if they over make units for a rush that end up being useless later. If he didn't say any of these things, my god prove me wrong.
He didn't say this. He said that Zerg needs either (a) better scouting, or (b) a safe build that can defend against all the early game aggression that can't be scouted. He did say that one partial solution to (b) would be if spine crawlers built faster, but h also that they don't help much against banshees.
He said the reason over compensating on defense was bad was because Zerg cannot use the over produced units to counter. He didn't reiterate that point too much because to make early Zerg aggression viable, you would need to change a shit load more than the points he was focusing on: Scouting or a Safe Build. Also, faster spine crawlers would be a way to create safe builds because you can use them reactively.
Idra made the point, several times, that one of the problems with zerg, is that spine crawlers take too long to build and don't finish in time for rushes, and that zerg falls behind economically if they over make units for a rush that end up being useless later. If he didn't say any of these things, my god prove me wrong.
He didn't say this. He said that Zerg needs either (a) better scouting, or (b) a safe build that can defend against all the early game aggression that can't be scouted. He did say that one partial solution to (b) would be if spine crawlers built faster, but h also that they don't help much against banshees.
He said the reason over compensating on defense was bad was because Zerg cannot use the over produced units to counter. He didn't reiterate that point too much because to make early Zerg aggression viable, you would need to change a shit load more than the points he was focusing on: Scouting or a Safe Build. Also, faster spine crawlers would be a way to create safe builds because you can use them reactively.
I just wanted to clairfy that.
I like what Geoff said at one point, about how in Brood War your defense had a proactive part and a reactive part (creep colony being proactive, sunken (or spore I guess) being reactive). I dunno how they would put that into SC2, but Spine crawlers right now are not reactive in the slightest, they're 100% proactive and that's one of the main problems with zerg earlygame.
holy shit, i am only 11 minutes into his commentary vod and idra is blowing my mind already. i know a lot of it comes down to practice, but damn, I never knew you can know that much with seeing so little.
so many gems in this commentary lol
"Oh wow, two starports...three?!? Holy shit. *giggles*" -IdrA
"I have no idea what he is doing, but it is pretty safe to assume that it is stupid"
Please, improve the quality of audio of your stream.
Non-native English speakers really need crispy sound when trying to understand someone talk. It's very hard for me to understand you with the low volume, the music, the keyboard noise, the background noise...
On May 04 2011 13:31 Techno wrote: Why doesnt IdrA switch to Terran?
he has self respect
Then play Terran and fast expand. I guarantee you he would be saying Zerg is overpowered if he played Terran. Then there'd probably be a million Terran players agreeing with him.
On May 04 2011 13:31 Techno wrote: Why doesnt IdrA switch to Terran?
he has self respect
Then play Terran and fast expand. I guarantee you he would be saying Zerg is overpowered if he played Terran.
He won't switch because learning a new race from the ground up isn't worth it since he believes the issues with zerg will have to be addressed by Blizzard eventually and if he did switch it would just make him look silly.
On May 05 2011 17:00 IdrA wrote: you couldve not let the protoss through if you didnt care
New quote!
Idra's reply to Kawaii saying him and Axlav played Random in their WCG Qualifier game since they didn't care who advanced as the winner would play Idra.
On May 05 2011 19:46 Zaclye wrote: hope idra watches the GSL ro8 nestea vs anypro he could put his own twist on that spinecrawler rush with lair
Go look up his Giraffe migration strategy back when steppes of war was still on the ladder and in GSL....he used spinecrawler rushes when he feels there was no other way to win back then.
IdrA should go to Korea for the GSL super tournament and own some faces, he has improved tenfold since he left Korea, and perhaps they can do something about zerg before then so he isnt at a disadvantage :/
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