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Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
April 29 2013 04:47 GMT
#55341
yea Idra has really fell off lately.. it's disappointing. Trust me i'm not trolling, honest fan (post history)

but yea.. I find myself enjoying the vibes on demu's stream much more.
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 06:56:11
April 29 2013 06:55 GMT
#55342
On April 29 2013 05:42 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 05:39 Snowbear wrote:
It seems like idra is so unhappy these days (http://i.imgur.com/znNO3uq.jpg). Anyone knows why?

well unhappier

HoTS is a scary place for Zerg, with reaper expands, widow mines that can take out 30 zerglings in one second, protoss that can jsut attack whenever and recall out with no risk, and skytoss that is pretty much impossible to really kill and even the only way to kill it is pretty hard to pull off

I hate to be this guy but...

Leenock (Z) just won Dreamhack Open Stockholm only dropping 3 maps , after 2 group stages and a ro16 bracket, and he only lost against protosses, also there were only 2 terrans in the ro16.

In WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
In WCS korea ro32 there were: 7 P, 11 T and 14 Z
In WCS korea ro16 there are: 3P, 6 T and 7 Z
In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z

Total WCS ro32 stats: 27 P, 34 T and 35 Z

Sure Zerg might be scarier in HotS, but that is only because they were OP in WoL and now they are far from "alot weaker" than all other races.

It's noble of you to try and defend IdrAs honor by attempting to say that zerg is too hard for most pro players to pull off. However this is not the case, IdrA has simply just not figured out how to deal with everything yet and/or has his mind in the right place.

Hopefully he will get his game together before his WCS group.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
April 29 2013 07:23 GMT
#55343
On April 29 2013 15:55 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 05:42 Forikorder wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:39 Snowbear wrote:
It seems like idra is so unhappy these days (http://i.imgur.com/znNO3uq.jpg). Anyone knows why?

well unhappier

HoTS is a scary place for Zerg, with reaper expands, widow mines that can take out 30 zerglings in one second, protoss that can jsut attack whenever and recall out with no risk, and skytoss that is pretty much impossible to really kill and even the only way to kill it is pretty hard to pull off

I hate to be this guy but...

Leenock (Z) just won Dreamhack Open Stockholm only dropping 3 maps , after 2 group stages and a ro16 bracket, and he only lost against protosses, also there were only 2 terrans in the ro16.

In WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
In WCS korea ro32 there were: 7 P, 11 T and 14 Z
In WCS korea ro16 there are: 3P, 6 T and 7 Z
In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z



n WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
-11 of them are invited

In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z
-9 of them are invited

And leenock played against only one good terran.

Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 07:53:55
April 29 2013 07:53 GMT
#55344
Seriously, don't make excuses for IdrA's poor play. There isn't really anything imbalanced about HotS, most MU's would lie close to 50% and most of the time IdrA loses to silly stuff because he doesn't scout or overestimates his opponent. The guy needs to take a break from SC if he doesn't want to continue playing this game, because streaming hours of play, being a total ass and telling his opponents to get cancer when he loses doesn't really bode well with a lot of people (and this is coming from a long-time IdrA fan)
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 08:22:16
April 29 2013 08:17 GMT
#55345
On April 29 2013 16:23 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 15:55 Fizzy wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:42 Forikorder wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:39 Snowbear wrote:
It seems like idra is so unhappy these days (http://i.imgur.com/znNO3uq.jpg). Anyone knows why?

well unhappier

HoTS is a scary place for Zerg, with reaper expands, widow mines that can take out 30 zerglings in one second, protoss that can jsut attack whenever and recall out with no risk, and skytoss that is pretty much impossible to really kill and even the only way to kill it is pretty hard to pull off

I hate to be this guy but...

Leenock (Z) just won Dreamhack Open Stockholm only dropping 3 maps , after 2 group stages and a ro16 bracket, and he only lost against protosses, also there were only 2 terrans in the ro16.

In WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
In WCS korea ro32 there were: 7 P, 11 T and 14 Z
In WCS korea ro16 there are: 3P, 6 T and 7 Z
In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z



n WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
-11 of them are invited

In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z
-9 of them are invited

And leenock played against only one good terran.



I'm not sure how it has anything to do with anything wether a player qualified or got invited. And yes, 2 of the 3 terrans that Leenock played against are not good compared to Leenock, however they are evenly matched if not favored against IdrA.

My point being is that a race is not bad because a player lose alot to players who are better. It's when you start seeing a race dominate a huge portion of the games when two equally skilled players clash. IdrA in his glory might have been one of the best foreigners and a top contender in tournaments, however, lately he is playing at an average AM Grandmaster skill level. And if IdrA has bad luck (or gets streamsniped) and has to face top GM players over and over he will logically lose alot of games.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 08:28:17
April 29 2013 08:27 GMT
#55346
On April 29 2013 16:53 Sedzz wrote:
Seriously, don't make excuses for IdrA's poor play. There isn't really anything imbalanced about HotS, most MU's would lie close to 50% and most of the time IdrA loses to silly stuff because he doesn't scout or overestimates his opponent. The guy needs to take a break from SC if he doesn't want to continue playing this game, because streaming hours of play, being a total ass and telling his opponents to get cancer when he loses doesn't really bode well with a lot of people (and this is coming from a long-time IdrA fan)


To say there isn't really anything imbalanced in hots is so false lol especially when there are facts that there are some imbalances as of right now ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
April 29 2013 08:28 GMT
#55347
On April 29 2013 17:17 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:23 Lefaa wrote:
On April 29 2013 15:55 Fizzy wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:42 Forikorder wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:39 Snowbear wrote:
It seems like idra is so unhappy these days (http://i.imgur.com/znNO3uq.jpg). Anyone knows why?

well unhappier

HoTS is a scary place for Zerg, with reaper expands, widow mines that can take out 30 zerglings in one second, protoss that can jsut attack whenever and recall out with no risk, and skytoss that is pretty much impossible to really kill and even the only way to kill it is pretty hard to pull off

I hate to be this guy but...

Leenock (Z) just won Dreamhack Open Stockholm only dropping 3 maps , after 2 group stages and a ro16 bracket, and he only lost against protosses, also there were only 2 terrans in the ro16.

In WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
In WCS korea ro32 there were: 7 P, 11 T and 14 Z
In WCS korea ro16 there are: 3P, 6 T and 7 Z
In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z



n WCS america ro32 there are: 9 P, 11 T and 12 Z
-11 of them are invited

In WCS europe ro32 there are: 11P, 12T and 9Z
-9 of them are invited

And leenock played against only one good terran.



I'm not sure how it has anything to do with anything wether a player qualified or got invited.


wow. If you want to show that the game is balanced you should take examples from tournaments where players are chosen by playing hots, not because of their WOL results.

Im not saying that the game is not balanced etc. Im just saying that your examples were horrible and tell nothing about balance.
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
April 29 2013 08:30 GMT
#55348
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...

User was banned for this post.
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
April 29 2013 08:34 GMT
#55349
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Nice job! We really appreciate that you came here to tell us that.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 10:32:43
April 29 2013 09:24 GMT
#55350
On April 29 2013 17:34 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Nice job! We really appreciate that you came here to tell us that.

Are you serious? You should email EG, not sponsors. Such whining is scaring sponsors from esports in general...

Ah, my sarcasm detector failed over Lefaa post :O
Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 09:50:35
April 29 2013 09:50 GMT
#55351
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Thank you, it was about time someone stepped in and did the right thing.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Symbioth
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland103 Posts
April 29 2013 09:54 GMT
#55352
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Okay..I understand you think you had reasons... but in fact, it is your behaviour that I find obnoxious here. Seriously. I can't stand something like that.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
April 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#55353
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Seriously, I am not an IdrA fun or anything, just like to watch his stream, for good games and his rage, but this butthurt behaviour is so lame.

I hate stupid political correctness and "e-sport is ze seriouzzz biznuzz" attitude.
You are squealer Starshaped, and it sucks, believe me.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
April 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#55354
On April 29 2013 19:04 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Seriously, I am not an IdrA fun or anything, just like to watch his stream, for good games and his rage, but this butthurt behaviour is so lame.

I hate stupid political correctness and "e-sport is ze seriouzzz biznuzz" attitude.
You are squealer Starshaped, and it sucks, believe me.


My father has cancer so excuse me if I feel differently
Chill Winston......
Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 10:41:39
April 29 2013 10:40 GMT
#55355
On April 29 2013 19:36 CursedRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:04 Embir wrote:
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Seriously, I am not an IdrA fun or anything, just like to watch his stream, for good games and his rage, but this butthurt behaviour is so lame.

I hate stupid political correctness and "e-sport is ze seriouzzz biznuzz" attitude.
You are squealer Starshaped, and it sucks, believe me.


My father has cancer so excuse me if I feel differently


My father died of cancer and believe me, I loved my father more than anything, but I still think it is wrong to write the sponsors, because it hurts eSports more than it hurts IdrA. It's fine if you want to complain, but do so to IdrA/EG, not the sponsors.

Edit: Comma.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 10:57:10
April 29 2013 10:56 GMT
#55356
i dont even like idra at all but if you feel you have to email someone then just email the team NOT the sponsors because that just hurts esports as a whole and could also hurt idras teammates.
savior did nothing wrong
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
April 29 2013 10:57 GMT
#55357
On April 29 2013 19:36 CursedRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:04 Embir wrote:
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Seriously, I am not an IdrA fun or anything, just like to watch his stream, for good games and his rage, but this butthurt behaviour is so lame.

I hate stupid political correctness and "e-sport is ze seriouzzz biznuzz" attitude.
You are squealer Starshaped, and it sucks, believe me.


My father has cancer so excuse me if I feel differently


What IdrA has to do with your father cancer? I'll answer for ya - absolutely nothing.
It is not that his words of wishing someone cancer will magically cause it.

Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 29 2013 11:04 GMT
#55358
On April 29 2013 17:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 16:53 Sedzz wrote:
Seriously, don't make excuses for IdrA's poor play. There isn't really anything imbalanced about HotS, most MU's would lie close to 50% and most of the time IdrA loses to silly stuff because he doesn't scout or overestimates his opponent. The guy needs to take a break from SC if he doesn't want to continue playing this game, because streaming hours of play, being a total ass and telling his opponents to get cancer when he loses doesn't really bode well with a lot of people (and this is coming from a long-time IdrA fan)


To say there isn't really anything imbalanced in hots is so false lol especially when there are facts that there are some imbalances as of right now ^_^.

What would you say is factually imbalanced? It's a pretty bold statement to say something is imbalanced for a fact. I know you are a pretty high level player though so I would like to hear your reasoning on this.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
April 29 2013 13:37 GMT
#55359
On April 29 2013 20:04 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 17:27 blade55555 wrote:
On April 29 2013 16:53 Sedzz wrote:
Seriously, don't make excuses for IdrA's poor play. There isn't really anything imbalanced about HotS, most MU's would lie close to 50% and most of the time IdrA loses to silly stuff because he doesn't scout or overestimates his opponent. The guy needs to take a break from SC if he doesn't want to continue playing this game, because streaming hours of play, being a total ass and telling his opponents to get cancer when he loses doesn't really bode well with a lot of people (and this is coming from a long-time IdrA fan)


To say there isn't really anything imbalanced in hots is so false lol especially when there are facts that there are some imbalances as of right now ^_^.

What would you say is factually imbalanced? It's a pretty bold statement to say something is imbalanced for a fact. I know you are a pretty high level player though so I would like to hear your reasoning on this.

I second this

I need more fuel for when I bitch at the other races on ladder
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
April 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#55360
On April 29 2013 19:57 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:36 CursedRich wrote:
On April 29 2013 19:04 Embir wrote:
On April 29 2013 17:30 Starshaped wrote:
I've written to all of EG's sponsors about Idra's appalling behaviour. Let's hope something changes because this can't go on...


Seriously, I am not an IdrA fun or anything, just like to watch his stream, for good games and his rage, but this butthurt behaviour is so lame.

I hate stupid political correctness and "e-sport is ze seriouzzz biznuzz" attitude.
You are squealer Starshaped, and it sucks, believe me.


My father has cancer so excuse me if I feel differently


What IdrA has to do with your father cancer? I'll answer for ya - absolutely nothing.
It is not that his words of wishing someone cancer will magically cause it.



Still you just dont say things as blatantly stupid as that to another person. It is, as the IdrA´s fame may point to, really bad mannered. Why on earth would you want someone to get cancer over a game of Starcraft? And if you do not, in fact, want him to - why flame like this? It is not even some sort of black humor, and this is the one thing i cant stand when watching IdrA´s stream.

IdrA needs to - i dont know how to express it correctly - lighten up? again. He has always been a man who would take shit seriously, but he needs to do it with a more positive attitude. I cant understand why he keeps quitting vs. DeMuslim for example. I bet he would enjoy stomping him 10k times more than anyone else.

I feel that he can improve by a significant amount and climb back to the very top of foreigners again as soon as his attitude gets to a more mature point.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
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