The IdrA Fan Club - Page 21

On August 07 2010 15:48 Malgrif wrote:
fuk really? "h to the usky husky" doesn't respect idra?! oh well i don't respect anyone who calls himself "h to the usky husky" lololol

on a serious note, it's understandable why idra reacted the way he did. people who don't think it was justified seem to already have a biased opinion of idra. put yourself in his shoes, i'm sure some of us of us would of said a lot worse in his position.

On August 07 2010 14:48 SharkSpider wrote:

I, for one, couldn't care less if "H to the usky husky" thinks IdrA's a bad player or too BM or whatever. Sure, props for winning, but it's hard to blame a player like IdrA, who practices professionally and has a fully developed game plan for enough time to mine out the whole map, for raging a bit when a no-name comes out and 2-0s him with a few cheesy pushes, not to mention an abuse of the classic Terran-favored parts of Lost Temple.

Also, way to kill your credibility by comparing SC Terran to SC2 Terran (same goes for Husky who made exactly the same comparison) The 'general' line of thinking seems to be that Terran is OP right now (I won't say that it is or isn't) and that SC was well-balanced. The act of picking a race you like and the act of picking a race that's arguably more powerful than other races are in no way similar, even if the races have the same name over two different games.

Btw, I'm not a Zerg or a Terran player, so I'm not some scrub fanboy or anything. If you can take out Tester in a high-profile series, then you can start judging your peers. Until then, don't criticize something you'll probably never be skilled enough to understand.

On August 07 2010 13:27 Blanke wrote: First Masq, now Silver gets berated by this fool. (Ironic since IdrA used to play as Terran and demands Silver apologizes for playing as Terran . . .) I can't believe IdrA is representing America's Starcraft scene in South Korea, it's an absolute embarassment to watch him during games.

(I saw Silver's match vs. him with HuskyStarcraft's commentary, and I could tell how little respect even Husky has for him.) He needs to learn to how to take a loss. If not, then I reccomend he changes his name to CrydrA. At least then his namesake would speak the truth.

On August 07 2010 16:05 Blanke wrote:


At risk of getting banned, I respond to your post because yours was legitimately thought out. I've basically stepped into hot water here, being flamed by many IdrA fanboys enfused with his rage.

Since SC2 is relatively new to Esports, I give new players credit for defeating pros. After all, the sport is young, we need new players, right? New legacies. (Not to overly praise Silver, of course.) Silver's attack hardly constituted as cheese imo, as it was rather late. IdrA wisely sacked an Overlord to scout the Medivac leaving, but his choice of roach play surprised me. It's unfortunate that roaches got nerfed pretty hard, but on a map like lost temple vs. terran, you definately want to prepare for abuse of the cliffs as you mentioned. Mutas would've been a decent counter, however the timing may have been unfavorable. Indeed, the cliffs are arguably inbalanced on that particular map.

Yes, I realize that Terrans may be arguably OP atm, but the fact that IdrA asked Silver to apologize for his/her race choice brooded hypocrisy in my eyes. View it however you like, I'm not going to continue arguing over this. And for the record, I basically grew up with Starcraft as a kid, so don't question my credibility.

The point I meant to make in my original post is that a professional player, one who lives and breathes Starcraft as his passion, should never, under any circumstances, forgo the basis of good sportsmanship. That is a value I've lived by in all forms of sport. Poor sportsmanship sullies your name, however I suspect the majority of fans here praise IdrA for such behavior. This I find strange. I consider Starcraft a true sport, even if it may lack physical exercise. Therefore one should always respect his/her opponent, just as you would do in any game or tournament. If there are imbalance issues with Starcraft 2, which I won't deny the possibility of, (When Starcraft was first released, it took several patches to achieve perfect balance, so indeed there should be little difference here), it would be in IdrA's best interest to outline them in a far more civil manner outside his matches. (Interviews work great.) Berating your opponent achieves nothing, really.

I don't hate IdrA, incase you've made that assumption already. Hate is a very negative emotion, especially since I've never actually met IdrA in person. However, as aformentioned, his distinct lack of sportsmanship demolishes my level of respect for him as a professional gamer.

Oh, and for those of you slamming Husky for being a D+ Protoss, I would like to remind you of his occupation as a commentator, not a professional player. I think that should be fairly obvious already, but you seem to have overlooked that crucial detail. To judge him requires an entirely different form of critique.

That is all.

On August 07 2010 16:05 Blanke wrote:


At risk of getting banned, I respond to your post because yours was legitimately thought out. I've basically stepped into hot water here, being flamed by many IdrA fanboys enfused with his rage.

Since SC2 is relatively new to Esports, I give new players credit for defeating pros. After all, the sport is young, we need new players, right? New legacies. (Not to overly praise Silver, of course.) Silver's attack hardly constituted as cheese imo, as it was rather late. IdrA wisely sacked an Overlord to scout the Medivac leaving, but his choice of roach play surprised me. It's unfortunate that roaches got nerfed pretty hard, but on a map like lost temple vs. terran, you definately want to prepare for abuse of the cliffs as you mentioned. Mutas would've been a decent counter, however the timing may have been unfavorable. Indeed, the cliffs are arguably inbalanced on that particular map.

Yes, I realize that Terrans may be arguably OP atm, but the fact that IdrA asked Silver to apologize for his/her race choice brooded hypocrisy in my eyes. View it however you like, I'm not going to continue arguing over this. And for the record, I basically grew up with Starcraft as a kid, so don't question my credibility.

The point I meant to make in my original post is that a professional player, one who lives and breathes Starcraft as his passion, should never, under any circumstances, forgo the basis of good sportsmanship. That is a value I've lived by in all forms of sport. Poor sportsmanship sullies your name, however I suspect the majority of fans here praise IdrA for such behavior. This I find strange. I consider Starcraft a true sport, even if it may lack physical exercise. Therefore one should always respect his/her opponent, just as you would do in any game or tournament. If there are imbalance issues with Starcraft 2, which I won't deny the possibility of, (When Starcraft was first released, it took several patches to achieve perfect balance, so indeed there should be little difference here), it would be in IdrA's best interest to outline them in a far more civil manner outside his matches. (Interviews work great.) Berating your opponent achieves nothing, really.

I don't hate IdrA, incase you've made that assumption already. Hate is a very negative emotion, especially since I've never actually met IdrA in person. However, as aformentioned, his distinct lack of sportsmanship demolishes my level of respect for him as a professional gamer.

Oh, and for those of you slamming Husky for being a D+ Protoss, I would like to remind you of his occupation as a commentator, not a professional player. I think that should be fairly obvious already, but you seem to have overlooked that crucial detail. To judge him requires an entirely different form of critique.

That is all.

On August 07 2010 16:22 Phisk wrote:


I can tell you are one of the YouTubers just by the match references. IdrA isn't representing USA, he is representing CJ Entus. He also seem to keep his BM towards non-koreans anyway, he never BM'd TesTer when he did 2-base robo all ins or cannon rushes.

IdrA played Protoss then Zerg, he never played Terran in SC2 (even tho he have been practising some, but its safe to say everyone has played around a little with every race). He played Terran in SCBW, a completely different game. Still, it wouldn't be ironic, more like hypocritical.



IdrA expressed his dislike for Huskys clueless commentary, done without any real game knowledge or insight, and said that Husky just screams louder to cover up the fact that he knows nothing about the game. After such remarks its not strange Husky would be biased against him. "Even Husky" also implies that Husky would be some sort of big shot or authority figure in the SC2 community which is pretty far from the truth.

If everybody changed their name to "speak the truth", you would be forced to change yours to Moron

On August 07 2010 16:05 Blanke wrote:


At risk of getting banned, I respond to your post because yours was legitimately thought out. I've basically stepped into hot water here, being flamed by many IdrA fanboys enfused with his rage.

Since SC2 is relatively new to Esports, I give new players credit for defeating pros. After all, the sport is young, we need new players, right? New legacies. (Not to overly praise Silver, of course.) Silver's attack hardly constituted as cheese imo, as it was rather late. IdrA wisely sacked an Overlord to scout the Medivac leaving, but his choice of roach play surprised me. It's unfortunate that roaches got nerfed pretty hard, but on a map like lost temple vs. terran, you definately want to prepare for abuse of the cliffs as you mentioned. Mutas would've been a decent counter, however the timing may have been unfavorable. Indeed, the cliffs are arguably inbalanced on that particular map.

Yes, I realize that Terrans may be arguably OP atm, but the fact that IdrA asked Silver to apologize for his/her race choice brooded hypocrisy in my eyes. View it however you like, I'm not going to continue arguing over this. And for the record, I basically grew up with Starcraft as a kid, so don't question my credibility.

The point I meant to make in my original post is that a professional player, one who lives and breathes Starcraft as his passion, should never, under any circumstances, forgo the basis of good sportsmanship. That is a value I've lived by in all forms of sport. Poor sportsmanship sullies your name, however I suspect the majority of fans here praise IdrA for such behavior. This I find strange. I consider Starcraft a true sport, even if it may lack physical exercise. Therefore one should always respect his/her opponent, just as you would do in any game or tournament. If there are imbalance issues with Starcraft 2, which I won't deny the possibility of, (When Starcraft was first released, it took several patches to achieve perfect balance, so indeed there should be little difference here), it would be in IdrA's best interest to outline them in a far more civil manner outside his matches. (Interviews work great.) Berating your opponent achieves nothing, really.

I don't hate IdrA, incase you've made that assumption already. Hate is a very negative emotion, especially since I've never actually met IdrA in person. However, as aformentioned, his distinct lack of sportsmanship demolishes my level of respect for him as a professional gamer.

Oh, and for those of you slamming Husky for being a D+ Protoss, I would like to remind you of his occupation as a commentator, not a professional player. I think that should be fairly obvious already, but you seem to have overlooked that crucial detail. To judge him requires an entirely different form of critique.

That is all.

On August 07 2010 16:43 SharkSpider wrote:

Respect for throwing it out there, but I doubt you're gonna get hit with a banhammer for speaking your mind. I do agree that asking silver to apologize for his race was crazy, because yeah, Silver was just playing the game as he said, and doing a pretty good job given the situations. I just think we need to separate IdrA's raging from himself as a player. It's obvious that he knows when he BMs, and that he can choose when to do it (ie, none of it even when Tester cheesed the crap out of him) and he pretty much directs it at plays that he thinks are cheesy or abusing game balance. I know I get mad when I play a game and I get beaten by a unit that I personally believe is in need of a nerf, and usually I'll say 'gg' and leave. But I don't put 12 hours a day in to it. If someone actually believes that the game is imbalanced, it's reasonable to compare them to a professional boxer going in to a ring and getting beat by someone who for some reason got to bring in a basebal bat. I think that would make most people rage pretty hard.

Either way, I agree that GM is needed to keep up the image of esports, and I think that the best way to do that is to start adding it to tournament rules, because players are way too emotionally attached to the games, and in some cases there's some serious nerdrage involved.

On August 07 2010 16:49 knatt wrote:
IdrA's humor is special. I don't think everything he writes is mindless whine, I think he's pretty funny. Oh well, I guess this thread sums up why we can't have nice things.

On August 07 2010 16:05 Blanke wrote: I consider Starcraft a true sport, even if it may lack physical exercise. Therefore one should always respect his/her opponent, just as you would do in any game or tournament.