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tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 14:07:14
August 07 2010 14:05 GMT
#421
Oh ok so he should go make roaches which can't actually hit the thors when he cliff drops, good idea yo. Also have you seen the HuK vs Silver replays? One replay in particular comes to mind, HuK vs Silver on Metalopolis, just watch that game and it will show just how "talented" Silver is, he doesn't scout, he doesn't scan, he goes for a retarded midgame and then attack moves his army and wins. Silver literally got by because his race is easy as shit. If you notice Silver doesn't "play smart", all he does is make units then push in the midgame and wins, he isn't actively thinking "oh this guy is great at macro, I better win earlygame!!" because his entire thought process revolves around "build marine tank, add some thors => fistpump".
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 07 2010 14:11 GMT
#422
If we want to discuss hypocrisy we should talk about how hypocritical it is for Husky to berate Idra for his bm when every single replay of him doing it is casted by Husky and HD within hours of it being publicly released, explicitly to get the youtube hits that they know Idra BM will get them. It goes beyond scummy for a person like Husky to talk down to Idra.

If you don't like Idra or the way he treats opponents, don't cast his games, both of them get all excited and giggly when Idra talks in games or when a player doesn't gg. I guess it's understandable that the drama is far more exciting to them than the game itself since they don't ever really know what's going on at any given point in a game. But I can't believe this guy has the audacity to leech attention directly from Idra games and in the same breath pass judgement on him.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 07 2010 14:18 GMT
#423
On August 07 2010 23:11 floor exercise wrote:
If we want to discuss hypocrisy we should talk about how hypocritical it is for Husky to berate Idra for his bm when every single replay of him doing it is casted by Husky and HD within hours of it being publicly released, explicitly to get the youtube hits that they know Idra BM will get them. It goes beyond scummy for a person like Husky to talk down to Idra.

If you don't like Idra or the way he treats opponents, don't cast his games, both of them get all excited and giggly when Idra talks in games or when a player doesn't gg. I guess it's understandable that the drama is far more exciting to them than the game itself since they don't ever really know what's going on at any given point in a game. But I can't believe this guy has the audacity to leech attention directly from Idra games and in the same breath pass judgement on him.

agree. i love husky, but this gets a bit annoying. o well. sign me up for the fan club. IdrA rules.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 14:37:08
August 07 2010 14:33 GMT
#424
On August 07 2010 22:58 sysrpl wrote:

It's stuff like this that proves that Idra is not as good as people say he is. This is OBVIOUS stuff that even low level Diamond players know not to do. Do not FE vs T on LT, they can cliff abuse you with tanks. If you see 2 Thors or more, stop making Mutas and invest into a lot of Roaches. Yet Idra does none of that, and refuses to adapt acting like a stubborn little kid and then QQ and rages when those two games he could have won if he just adapted.


this whole post pretty much proves how little you know about zvt

but im going to pretty much set you straight on what I bolded
you CAN FE on LT... IF you build 3 spine crawlers on cliff side as soon as you start lair tech (if you're 100% sure hes cliff dropping)
then begin drop tech as soon as lair is up
you wont lose anything except the 3 crawlers which buy just enough time for drop to finish
and as a bonus... you might end it RIGHT THERE with a counter drop
idra was clearly tilted... he was too busy raging and bming that he basically missed the timing window completely
it happens... especially when your mind is elsewhere during a game

also, if you outmine terran on gas (2:1.. which is a very common scenario) you can still beat thor with mutas.... easily
press STOP above thor.. they spread
once you reach a critical mass of mutas you can insta rape thors with micro+spread
and if he overbuilds thor+marine you can overrun him with ling/baneling
watch check play if you want more information...
Darkside-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
August 07 2010 14:35 GMT
#425
Dear Idra,

I want to like you, I really do. You're a lone American hope in strange land, fighting for the stars and stripes on foreign soil. I would delight in screaming "USA USA USA" every time you trounce a Korean or Euro.

That being said, please stop embarrassing us by acting like a colossal tool. While you persist in acting like a spoiled 2 year-old I cannot in good conscience support you. You have shown that you can display the occasional flash of brilliance, as we saw in your game 1 against White-Ra in the HDH or your play in the King of the Beta.

I believe that you can be among the best, but do you? Stop flaming anyone who beats you and work on fixing your terribly predictable play. I've got my IdrA sign all ready to wave at events (you're going to be at Blizzcon, right?) and I hate to see it collecting dust in the corner.

-Darkside
I find your lack of faith disturbing
sekalf
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden522 Posts
August 07 2010 14:48 GMT
#426
On August 07 2010 23:11 floor exercise wrote:
If we want to discuss hypocrisy we should talk about how hypocritical it is for Husky to berate Idra for his bm when every single replay of him doing it is casted by Husky and HD within hours of it being publicly released, explicitly to get the youtube hits that they know Idra BM will get them. It goes beyond scummy for a person like Husky to talk down to Idra.

If you don't like Idra or the way he treats opponents, don't cast his games, both of them get all excited and giggly when Idra talks in games or when a player doesn't gg. I guess it's understandable that the drama is far more exciting to them than the game itself since they don't ever really know what's going on at any given point in a game. But I can't believe this guy has the audacity to leech attention directly from Idra games and in the same breath pass judgement on him.


Are you wearing your tinfoil hat?
They cast those games because people want them to cast those games. Whether they like Idra or not has nothing to do with it.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
August 07 2010 14:53 GMT
#427
Yeah I liked Husky when I was first starting out watching Starcraft BW, but then I actually learned how to play the game and realized half the shit he says is just completely wrong. The best was when a guy was trying to get PvP build advice in a thread, and Husky tells him to go 4 gate goon every game. LOL.

I can't watch his commentaries anymore because he says either incorrect stuff, or is extremely biased. Every IdrA game it's like he is just giggling hoping for IdrA to screw up and BM, then talk about how he shouldn't be such a bad sport. It's not a big deal if he doesn't gg. You don't need to spend 5 minutes talking about a god damn gg. That being said, I do appreciate what he does for the community and getting new people involved.

I think the scrubs coming in an IdrA fanclub forum giving advice are the best though. IdrA doesn't care what you think. He isn't going to say, oh random gold league joe told me not to FE on Lost Temple, I think I should take his advice. Or, random joe gamer told me to be a better sportsman, I think I'm going to change the way I act. IdrA doesn't give a shit, he speaks his mind. Sometimes it's over the top (asking silver to apologize for playing terran), but most of the time it's funny. IdrA Fighting!
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:05:58
August 07 2010 14:59 GMT
#428
all you guys thinking that you're actually going to change his behavior by voicing your opinion about how bad he is really need to wake up. idra is continually going to be invited to tournaments and events regardless of how "manner" he is, because the honest truth is that esports hasn't developed enough in foreign countries for BM to actually hurt the reputation of the game. If you're not supporting idra, he's not gonna lose any sleep over it.

edit: wow didn't notice i wrote the same thing zerglingsfolife wrote. OH WELL I HOPE YOU GUYS GET IT
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 07 2010 15:21 GMT
#429
On August 07 2010 23:33 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:58 sysrpl wrote:

It's stuff like this that proves that Idra is not as good as people say he is. This is OBVIOUS stuff that even low level Diamond players know not to do. Do not FE vs T on LT, they can cliff abuse you with tanks. If you see 2 Thors or more, stop making Mutas and invest into a lot of Roaches. Yet Idra does none of that, and refuses to adapt acting like a stubborn little kid and then QQ and rages when those two games he could have won if he just adapted.


but im going to pretty much set you straight on what I bolded
you CAN FE on LT... IF you build 3 spine crawlers on cliff side as soon as you start lair tech (if you're 100% sure hes cliff dropping)
then begin drop tech as soon as lair is up
you wont lose anything except the 3 crawlers which buy just enough time for drop to finish
and as a bonus... you might end it RIGHT THERE with a counter drop


Okay you build three spine crawlers near the edge of the cliff. Now the Terran either outranges the Spine Crawlers with the tank if he is doing all tank/no Marines cliff drop. It will stall time, which is good. But if they do a Marine/Tank drop, the Marines will deny Overlord vision and since you have slow Overlords, it is unlikely to have more than 2 trying to get vision. Or the Terran can retreat and do a decently effective Marine/Tank push because you have 3 out of place Crawlers and Marines will be pretty buff with a Medivac healing them. If you try to end it with a counter drop, it is all-in because you spent 450 Minerals on Spine Crawlers, 300/300 on early Overlord upgrades, and you're cutting drones to get an army to counter drop.

also, if you outmine terran on gas (2:1.. which is a very common scenario) you can still beat thor with mutas.... easily
press STOP above thor.. they spread
once you reach a critical mass of mutas you can insta rape thors with micro+spread
and if he overbuilds thor+marine you can overrun him with ling/baneling
watch check play if you want more information...


Once they get about 3-5 Thors, your Mutalisks will start being less and less effective. You're Mutalisks will eventually need to stack to kill Thors. It works little in the early game, (that is where resources are limited so it isn't a very effective method) but not in the late game.

On August 07 2010 23:05 tangwhat wrote:
Oh ok so he should go make roaches which can't actually hit the thors when he cliff drops, good idea yo. Also have you seen the HuK vs Silver replays? One replay in particular comes to mind, HuK vs Silver on Metalopolis, just watch that game and it will show just how "talented" Silver is, he doesn't scout, he doesn't scan, he goes for a retarded midgame and then attack moves his army and wins. Silver literally got by because his race is easy as shit. If you notice Silver doesn't "play smart", all he does is make units then push in the midgame and wins, he isn't actively thinking "oh this guy is great at macro, I better win earlygame!!" because his entire thought process revolves around "build marine tank, add some thors => fistpump".


This is spot on. Everyone is saying Silver out played HuK and IdrA when he really just

"build marine tank, add some thors => fistpump"

xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 07 2010 15:25 GMT
#430
On August 07 2010 23:35 Darkside- wrote:
Dear Idra,

I want to like you, I really do. You're a lone American hope in strange land, fighting for the stars and stripes on foreign soil. I would delight in screaming "USA USA USA" every time you trounce a Korean or Euro.

That being said, please stop embarrassing us by acting like a colossal tool. While you persist in acting like a spoiled 2 year-old I cannot in good conscience support you. You have shown that you can display the occasional flash of brilliance, as we saw in your game 1 against White-Ra in the HDH or your play in the King of the Beta.

I believe that you can be among the best, but do you? Stop flaming anyone who beats you and work on fixing your terribly predictable play. I've got my IdrA sign all ready to wave at events (you're going to be at Blizzcon, right?) and I hate to see it collecting dust in the corner.

-Darkside

Dear Darkside,

IdrA represents the Darkside. You seem to be interested in the Rainbowside.

Regards,
IdrAside.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:34:43
August 07 2010 15:32 GMT
#431
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

That made my fucking day.

It will be my new signature.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
August 07 2010 15:35 GMT
#432
Idra is a great player and his occasional BM just makes things more fun.
noobs taking a couple games off him means absolutely shit, I'm sure some noobs have taken some games off other great players and nobody is making a giant fuss about it. Look at Idra's history (including Sc1) and then compare to masq or silver. Yeah, ok.

It's pretty ridiculous that people will come spam whine even in this thread about his BM which his fans probably all enjoy. Way to waste your time and pollute the discussion. God forbid good SC players aren't all carebears and rainbows!
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:38:41
August 07 2010 15:36 GMT
#433
Personally, I think people are playing zerg too much like the other races. Zerg is reactive. IdrA always tries to cram one strategy down the other guy's throat the whole game. No matter how many thors he sees, he keeps going mass muta with a pinch of zerglings...

EDIT: Seriously, watch Check if you want to see somebody beat thor-tank with muta-ling.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 07 2010 15:38 GMT
#434
On August 08 2010 00:36 kajeus wrote:
Personally, I think people are playing zerg too much like the other races. Zerg is reactive. IdrA always tries to cram one strategy down the other guy's throat the whole game. No matter how many thors he sees, he keeps going mass muta with a pinch of zerglings...


Zerg: the reactive race that can't know what the opponent is doing and therefore can't react to it
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:39:58
August 07 2010 15:39 GMT
#435
On August 08 2010 00:38 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 00:36 kajeus wrote:
Personally, I think people are playing zerg too much like the other races. Zerg is reactive. IdrA always tries to cram one strategy down the other guy's throat the whole game. No matter how many thors he sees, he keeps going mass muta with a pinch of zerglings...


Zerg: the reactive race that can't know what the opponent is doing and therefore can't react to it

Nah, see, watch some Check. You have plenty of time to react. ESPECIALLY IdrA v. Silver -- dude had tons of time to know what's up.

EDIT: http://www.sc2rep.com/?s_race=zvt
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:40:55
August 07 2010 15:40 GMT
#436
On August 07 2010 13:46 QuakerOats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 13:27 Blanke wrote:
You people astound me.

First Masq, now Silver gets berated by this fool. (Ironic since IdrA used to play as Terran and demands Silver apologizes for playing as Terran . . .) I can't believe IdrA is representing America's Starcraft scene in South Korea, it's an absolute embarassment to watch him during games. (I saw Silver's match vs. him with HuskyStarcraft's commentary, and I could tell how little respect even Husky has for him.) He needs to learn to how to take a loss. If not, then I reccomend he changes his name to CrydrA. At least then his namesake would speak the truth.


Haters gonna hate.

Go IdrA! Keep on fightin' the good fight.

Well IdrA always fires the first shot of hate against someone he doesnt even know usually. If that isnt hate I dont know what is.

This thread is actually depressing, because the majority here like someone not because of his awesome Starcraft 2 playing skills, but rather because of the cloud of scandals surrounding him. People are "complaining" that they cant find replays of IdrA to watch and so my argument about not liking him for his gameplay seems somewhat valid. Being bad mannered and verbally abusing of others is definetely not cool.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 07 2010 15:48 GMT
#437
On August 08 2010 00:40 Rabiator wrote:

This thread is actually depressing, because the majority here like someone not because of his awesome Starcraft 2 playing skills, but rather because of the cloud of scandals surrounding him. People are "complaining" that they cant find replays of IdrA to watch and so my argument about not liking him for his gameplay seems somewhat valid. Being bad mannered and verbally abusing of others is definetely not cool.

lol seriously bro? the majority of the people here praise idra's skill and BM. read through the thread if you need proof
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 07 2010 15:56 GMT
#438
You could build a sandcastle in Rabiator's vagina, just ignore him
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
August 07 2010 16:00 GMT
#439
God dommit IdrA makes me so happy. His little rages just make me love him more. Every time he says something in game it seems to put a smile on my face. I just can't get enough.
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 16:12:48
August 07 2010 16:12 GMT
#440
People are "complaining" that they cant find replays of IdrA to watch and so my argument about not liking him for his gameplay seems somewhat valid.

It's generally hard to find replays of good players. Some, like Arthosis, have posted replay packs and White-Ra has some of his replays uploaded on his site but most of the time we only get single replays every now and then. I'm guessing that the reason is that there are so many casters fighting for games to show - and you don't really want to upload something everyone else has seen already because the replay has been published.
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