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On February 28 2012 05:37 MountainGoat wrote:
IdrA's group for IPl4 got posted. Right now it's just
IdrA
MMA
Bomber
The other two members of the group will be people from the open bracket. MMA and Bomber are very good of course but IdrA is capable of playing beastly ZvT and he's beaten Bomber before. I think IdrA's placement in the group will depend heavily on the other two members of the group.
Idra also won MMA when he killed his own orbital... oh wait.
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On February 28 2012 05:41 Aocowns wrote:
Wow...WOOOOOWW... How unlucky is it possible to get? -.-
Just glad we're going to see some high level ZvT for once...
Don't be so sure, I thought the same before the showmatches with Taeja and Alive. Bunker rushes inc.
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On February 28 2012 05:41 Aocowns wrote:
Wow...WOOOOOWW... How unlucky is it possible to get? -.-
Just glad we're going to see some high level ZvT for once...
His group: MMA Bomber
Compared to:
MKP Stephano (assuming he would replace White-Ra)
MC Polt PuMa (Can replace him with anyone)
Tails Alive Nestea (If he would replace Nestea that might have been easier)
Uh, people need to start to realize that in the big tournaments every group is stacked. It's not unlucky, he could be in any of the groups shown and it would be pretty much equally difficult. Every group got top level players and IdrA just have to prove that he is able to beat them (which he can). So please stop saying he's unlucky when every group are stacked >_>
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On February 28 2012 06:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 05:41 Aocowns wrote:
Wow...WOOOOOWW... How unlucky is it possible to get? -.-
Just glad we're going to see some high level ZvT for once... His group: MMA Bomber Compared to: MKP Stephano (assuming he would replace White-Ra) MC Polt PuMa (Can replace him with anyone) Tails Alive Nestea (If he would replace Nestea that might have been easier) Uh, people need to start to realize that in the big tournaments every group is stacked. It's not unlucky, he could be in any of the groups shown and it would be pretty much equally difficult. Every group got top level players and IdrA just have to prove that he is able to beat them (which he can). So please stop saying he's unlucky when every group are stacked >_>
Yeah, I didn't actually see the other groups  Pretty much every foreigner got an insane group there
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On February 28 2012 06:32 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 06:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:On February 28 2012 05:41 Aocowns wrote:
Wow...WOOOOOWW... How unlucky is it possible to get? -.-
Just glad we're going to see some high level ZvT for once... His group: MMA Bomber Compared to: MKP Stephano (assuming he would replace White-Ra) MC Polt PuMa (Can replace him with anyone) Tails Alive Nestea (If he would replace Nestea that might have been easier) Uh, people need to start to realize that in the big tournaments every group is stacked. It's not unlucky, he could be in any of the groups shown and it would be pretty much equally difficult. Every group got top level players and IdrA just have to prove that he is able to beat them (which he can). So please stop saying he's unlucky when every group are stacked >_> Yeah, I didn't actually see the other groups Pretty much every foreigner got an insane group there
...bascially everyone there is pretty fucking good... like with Korea suddenly deciding to go to every event (as opposed to early last year say), you have like a double handful of Code S koreans everywhere (RoG, MLG winter arena each had its own complement tho they same time)
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Damnit, MMA's got the best ZvT though. :o
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Well, at least he avoided MC this time.
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conpared to some of his tohe groups, its probably the best group hell have all season the open bracket people will probably be some mid tier foreigners so its not like an Oz or NesTea will plop in his group
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MMA is the best Terran in the world, with his best MU, TvZ, vs Idra. I can't pick Idra to win that one. Vs Bomber I'd say it's 50/50, depends if Bomber decides he's gonna rape everyone or be mediocre again. Also any Protoss guarantees a loss for Idra, and ZvZ will be a coin flip.
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How many will move on from every bracket?
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On February 28 2012 07:24 crocodile wrote:
MMA is the best Terran in the world, with his best MU, TvZ, vs Idra. I can't pick Idra to win that one. Vs Bomber I'd say it's 50/50, depends if Bomber decides he's gonna rape everyone or be mediocre again. Also any Protoss guarantees a loss for Idra, and ZvZ will be a coin flip.
Idra is a match for anyone in ZvZ(although it is coinflippy), and his ZvP has been looking GREAT compared to last year, I mean he almost took down Oz, who is like top 3 PvZ, isn't he?
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On February 28 2012 07:52 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 07:24 crocodile wrote:
MMA is the best Terran in the world, with his best MU, TvZ, vs Idra. I can't pick Idra to win that one. Vs Bomber I'd say it's 50/50, depends if Bomber decides he's gonna rape everyone or be mediocre again. Also any Protoss guarantees a loss for Idra, and ZvZ will be a coin flip. Idra is a match for anyone in ZvZ(although it is coinflippy), and his ZvP has been looking GREAT compared to last year, I mean he almost took down Oz, who is like top 3 PvZ, isn't he?
Oz's PvZ doesn't stack up against the best in Korea. He does have the odd ability to best Curious though.
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IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!!
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On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!!
Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though.
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On February 28 2012 08:13 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!! Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though.
No, Idra is the one who does a lot of ling bling aggression, even before saturating his own 3rd. He seems to be doing that against triple CC builds on ladder sometimes, with great success if I recall correctly
Edit: Do note, that this was done on ladder. Players like Bomber and MMA are probably having waaayyy more refined builds, and little tweaks that makes them invulnerable to these kinds of things. Still, I hope Idra busts out one of these aggressive games, as they have been a pleasure to watch on his stream
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On February 28 2012 08:17 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!! Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though. No, Idra is the one who does a lot of ling bling aggression, even before saturating his own 3rd. He seems to be doing that against triple CC builds on ladder sometimes, with great success if I recall correctly
Except for when they go fast Siege mode to troll Baneling agression, like that one Terran did (ThorZainE?) to him on Antiga.
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On February 28 2012 08:25 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:17 Aocowns wrote:On February 28 2012 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!! Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though. No, Idra is the one who does a lot of ling bling aggression, even before saturating his own 3rd. He seems to be doing that against triple CC builds on ladder sometimes, with great success if I recall correctly Except for when they go fast Siege mode to troll Baneling agression, like that one Terran did (ThorZainE?) to him on Antiga.
whut? How recent was this? I've watched every Idra game this year, and that did not happen >_>.
Are you referring to the ''I don't give a fuck, so I'll just roach all in and a-move without effort'' game in that teamleague?
In any case, Antiga is not a good map for that type of aggression either way, but some maps are, imo.
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On February 28 2012 08:30 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:25 VashTS wrote:On February 28 2012 08:17 Aocowns wrote:On February 28 2012 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!! Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though. No, Idra is the one who does a lot of ling bling aggression, even before saturating his own 3rd. He seems to be doing that against triple CC builds on ladder sometimes, with great success if I recall correctly Except for when they go fast Siege mode to troll Baneling agression, like that one Terran did (ThorZainE?) to him on Antiga. whut? How recent was this? I've watched every Idra game this year, and that did not happen >_>. Are you referring to the ''I don't give a fuck, so I'll just roach all in and a-move without effort'' game in that teamleague? In any case, Antiga is not a good map for that type of aggression either way, but some maps are, imo.
It was in one of the team leagues from IPL or NASL. He went for a roach/bane all-in and Thorzain countered it by going fast siege. Also, as of late there has been some scenarios on his stream where he has done a 2-3 base sling/bling push against a terran, sometimes said push has mutas. If I recall the pushes usually occur around 145-160 supply.
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On February 28 2012 08:30 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:25 VashTS wrote:On February 28 2012 08:17 Aocowns wrote:On February 28 2012 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 28 2012 08:04 thegiantnome wrote:
IdrA has a fantastic chance in this tournament. ZvT being his best matchup and he's been training in the slayers house with some of the best terrans in the world I see him getting out of his group going 4-2. IdrA has been looking good lately. Anyone saying "ohh he's bad" is so wrong. He hasn't been winning but he's been playing fantastic games versus players like lucky, nestea, oz. He is playing the best players in the world and playing damn good games. I think that sometime in the next three tournaments IdrA breaks out of his shell and kicks some serious ass!!! Here's the problem though. Bomber and MMA are both very macro oriented Terrans. They take economic risks to become unstoppable in the mid and late games. Idra is not someone who punishes with roach-ling-baneling busts or early pools. It's definitely going to be a hard one for Idra to win. But living in the same house as MMA could setup some mind games though. No, Idra is the one who does a lot of ling bling aggression, even before saturating his own 3rd. He seems to be doing that against triple CC builds on ladder sometimes, with great success if I recall correctly Except for when they go fast Siege mode to troll Baneling agression, like that one Terran did (ThorZainE?) to him on Antiga. whut? How recent was this? I've watched every Idra game this year, and that did not happen >_>. Are you referring to the ''I don't give a fuck, so I'll just roach all in and a-move without effort'' game in that teamleague? In any case, Antiga is not a good map for that type of aggression either way, but some maps are, imo.
FUCK. Forgot it was team league. Comment withdrawn, sir. =p
Edit: To clarify, I don't thik it was the 3x Orbital, either.
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dont forget it is SLAYERS_MMA so IdrA has probably gotten a good chunk of practice against his style
and hes beat Bomber before going to Korea
id say he has a strong chance at getting out of the group
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