
Why did it have to be a 0-3
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Wolflink
United States20 Posts
December 04 2011 01:29 GMT
#30721
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Primal666
Slovenia418 Posts
December 04 2011 01:30 GMT
#30722
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
December 04 2011 01:30 GMT
#30723
On December 04 2011 10:28 Jinsho wrote: That's the way, Greg. Lose to Puma as often as you can -- and learn to come back with a win for next time. Don't be disappointed because he lost to a teammate. Why shouldn't we be? They were all shitty games. I don't give a shit if it's his teammate or not, it doesn't change anything | ||
Whole
United States6046 Posts
December 04 2011 01:31 GMT
#30724
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
December 04 2011 01:32 GMT
#30725
On December 04 2011 10:31 Whole wrote: i really just want idra to practice more. We really couldn't expect much because right after his IEM China win (the end of his slump), he starting getting tournaments back to back and now he is declining again. I hope he will decline tournament invites and focus on the few big tournaments so he can start winning. Still WCG to go T_T | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
December 04 2011 01:32 GMT
#30726
That sucked. | ||
Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
December 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#30727
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
December 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#30728
On December 04 2011 10:28 Poebes wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2011 10:27 Pooman wrote: Puma just completely outplayed Idra. Nothing much else to say. Well he also completely metagamed IdrA. First 2 cheeses. And then the super fast third. But yeah thats what you should do against a player you know so well. He knew IdrA was going for mutas, so he goes for a timing attack before spire is done. It's not cheese, it's just IdrA being too predictable :/ He either needs to learn to defend those pushes while going for mutas, or he has to switch it up a bit. No matter how good he is at that style, he's going to lose so many ZvTs if everyone knows exactly what he does every game. | ||
Simonius
Germany98 Posts
December 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#30729
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
December 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#30730
On December 04 2011 10:30 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2011 10:28 Jinsho wrote: That's the way, Greg. Lose to Puma as often as you can -- and learn to come back with a win for next time. Don't be disappointed because he lost to a teammate. Why shouldn't we be? They were all shitty games. I don't give a shit if it's his teammate or not, it doesn't change anything The sad thing is they've played some pretty epic games before. I'm more disappointed in missing out on those than him losing. Oh well! | ||
Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
December 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#30731
meh... good night everyone.. I'm gonna go and dream of IdrA's future GSL Code S finals win... | ||
Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
December 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#30732
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kanadiasteve
United States313 Posts
December 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#30733
Or, whatever. Kinda want to watch more matches tonight, but my interest has just waned severely. | ||
ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
December 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#30734
Puma just abused IdrA's early game weakness too hard. At least IdrA didn't leave early. Hope his practice in Korea gives him the time to adjust his playstyle. ![]() | ||
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
December 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#30735
On December 04 2011 10:33 schimmetje wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2011 10:30 Aocowns wrote: On December 04 2011 10:28 Jinsho wrote: That's the way, Greg. Lose to Puma as often as you can -- and learn to come back with a win for next time. Don't be disappointed because he lost to a teammate. Why shouldn't we be? They were all shitty games. I don't give a shit if it's his teammate or not, it doesn't change anything The sad thing is they've played some pretty epic games before. I'm more disappointed in missing out on those than him losing. Oh well! Yeah, th games they played were amazing until Puma decided he wouldn't even try for the macro win. I really dislike Puma for that(Read hate) | ||
vmendi
Spain28 Posts
December 04 2011 01:36 GMT
#30736
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Pooman
148 Posts
December 04 2011 01:37 GMT
#30737
On December 04 2011 10:33 zodde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2011 10:28 Poebes wrote: On December 04 2011 10:27 Pooman wrote: Puma just completely outplayed Idra. Nothing much else to say. Well he also completely metagamed IdrA. First 2 cheeses. And then the super fast third. But yeah thats what you should do against a player you know so well. He knew IdrA was going for mutas, so he goes for a timing attack before spire is done. It's not cheese, it's just IdrA being too predictable :/ He either needs to learn to defend those pushes while going for mutas, or he has to switch it up a bit. No matter how good he is at that style, he's going to lose so many ZvTs if everyone knows exactly what he does every game. Exactly. It wasn't cheese, it was just a build order that was designed to beat Idra's usual style. Idra has been playing that same style for too long. His ZvT used to look unstoppable, so Puma evolved his TvZ to adapt to that. Idra needs to evolve his ZvT at the same pace if he wants to remain dominant in the match up. | ||
Pooman
148 Posts
December 04 2011 01:37 GMT
#30738
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vmendi
Spain28 Posts
December 04 2011 01:40 GMT
#30739
On December 04 2011 10:37 Pooman wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2011 10:33 zodde wrote: On December 04 2011 10:28 Poebes wrote: On December 04 2011 10:27 Pooman wrote: Puma just completely outplayed Idra. Nothing much else to say. Well he also completely metagamed IdrA. First 2 cheeses. And then the super fast third. But yeah thats what you should do against a player you know so well. He knew IdrA was going for mutas, so he goes for a timing attack before spire is done. It's not cheese, it's just IdrA being too predictable :/ He either needs to learn to defend those pushes while going for mutas, or he has to switch it up a bit. No matter how good he is at that style, he's going to lose so many ZvTs if everyone knows exactly what he does every game. Exactly. It wasn't cheese, it was just a build order that was designed to beat Idra's usual style. Idra has been playing that same style for too long. His ZvT used to look unstoppable, so Puma evolved his TvZ to adapt to that. Idra needs to evolve his ZvT at the same pace if he wants to remain dominant in the match up. Yep, I was asking in the previous post because I think exactly the same, the style is outdated. Even at my diamond level I've been finding more and more difficult to go fast muta because of these 9-10 minute pushes. | ||
Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
December 04 2011 01:40 GMT
#30740
I'm a bit surprised the games turned out that way since IdrA looked really convincing against Strelok yesterday. Regardless, I see a lot of good stuff for IdrA in the future. He has said a lot that all this traveling/those tournaments have been cutting into his practice time but he'll be getting quality practice time in Korea soon enough. Still, $3000 for IdrA - not bad for a weekend. | ||
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