The IdrA Fan Club - Page 1117

On September 18 2011 00:18 Whole wrote:
this is pretty unrelated (to the depressing discussion about how terrible idra is), but the interviewer calls Greg "Grack" at 1:37....and this is when IdrA played SC1

On September 18 2011 00:34 Whole wrote:
You didn't criticized him, you just called him a b-teamer. That post held no discussion value at all.

On September 18 2011 01:51 zXzXz wrote:

Yes? It's a tiny detail of my criticising post, read it all instead of just one line.

On September 18 2011 02:16 Aocowns wrote:

Allow me to answer the rest of your post then. Jinro was never insanely good, he just rode the macro terran wave, which he was one of the first to master. His attitude has slowly been improving over the last year(imo at least) so that won't hold him back forever. He clearly want to win.(Trimaster smash video) Also, Idra has great potential to improve, and is one of the most talented players from NA(see BW career)

Besides, maybe he answered to the guy that posted about B teamer in the first place?

Edit: Idra vs Softball on Nasl EU broadcast for those who didn't catch it live.

On September 18 2011 02:31 zXzXz wrote:

I never said Jinro was insanely good, but at his peak, definetly better than IdrA. He beat IdrA 3-1 in GSL then 4-2 in Clash of the Titans. He got further than Idra in every GSL. He won an MLG that IdrA was in. Jinro may not have been "insanely good", but idra has never even been close to "insanely good" in that case

On September 18 2011 02:31 zXzXz wrote:

I never said Jinro was insanely good, but at his peak, definetly better than IdrA. He beat IdrA 3-1 in GSL then 4-2 in Clash of the Titans. He got further than Idra in every GSL. He won an MLG that IdrA was in. Jinro may not have been "insanely good", but idra has never even been close to "insanely good" in that case

On September 18 2011 02:50 zXzXz wrote:
Well, let's just agree to disagree then^^ I dont think IdrA was ever on the same level as jinro. He did ok for awhile because he plays stupidly greedy (rush 75drones no units). Now that people realizes it, they all in like half their games vs IdrA with great success because he always cuts corners. Kind of like with jinro and macro terran, people adapt. And now they're both about the same skill lvl losing everything they enter. B-teamers overall. And jinro doesn't ragequit every ladder loss and blames imbalance/coinflip/retards so I think he has greater chances of becomming good again.

On September 18 2011 02:42 Aocowns wrote:

If Jinro had not had so much experience with macro terran, then he wouldnt have done so good I think. He was one of the first to use it, and so people did not have an answer. At that time, Idra had both better, mechanics and unit control. Jinro was by no means bad, he was really really good. I was still very new to the game then, so I might remember it wrong, but that's how I saw it.

Yay for Idra vs Softball :D

Edit: I forgot, you did see the maps for th GSL games, or are you just saying things out of your ass?

On September 18 2011 02:59 Apollo_Shards wrote:



Being a fan of one player does not require you to degrade another player trying to make him look better. Trying to point out that somehow Jinro is bad does not make Idra look better. Stop being so disrespectful to other fans just because you dont agree with them.

On September 18 2011 03:40 kanadiasteve wrote:
Yeah, I bet Idra's watching DRG pretty closely as well. DRG didn't need to play Hero though, so there's that I guess. IdrA's ZvT, though maybe not amazing, is still arguably better than his ZvP. Maybe he'd have advanced further if he got some terrans to play?

On September 18 2011 02:57 Aocowns wrote:

Since I am immature, I must have last word :3 Jinro have been bad for a longer time than Idra, and right now, I would put my money on Idra being the better player :3 Besides, if you give Idra some time, he will usually admit his mistakes(Sometimes atleast) I dunno what's wrong with Jinro though, he's been playing with some of the best Koreans for months, and he still hasn't come out of his slump. One of my fav terrans for sure, just behind Demu and MvP ^^

On September 18 2011 03:45 zXzXz wrote:

I don't think it's fair to say "Jinro has been bad for a longer time" when Jinro are only fighting koreans. Jinro is doing badly vs Koreans while idra is losing to most foreigners he bumps into in the MLGs. Once again, i think we can just agree to disagree? You think idras army control etc is better than jinros somehow and I'll accept that even tho i couldn't disagree more. Jinro's splitting is MKP level and I don't think I've ever seen somebody with worse infestor control than IdrA (which isn't meant to offend him. He's definetly top5 foreign zergs and I always root for him together with all foreigners in tournaments so im definetly no hater, I like idra)

On September 18 2011 03:22 EsMuyVien wrote:
Wow... Anyone still watching Dreamhack now that Idra is out? DRG playing like a boss. He's how Idra would be playing if he was still in Korea! Hope Grack does better soon.