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Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
June 30 2014 16:13 GMT
#103961
I'm a bit hyped for f(x) because Pink Tape was amazingly fun.

On July 01 2014 00:04 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
"For the conspiracy theorists who are wondering about the timing, apparently it's being reported tonight that the government has taken funds that were raised for Sewol and used them for other things like badminton courts."


If true that is horrible.
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 16:26:43
June 30 2014 16:22 GMT
#103962
^
So is the convenient timing of Bom's story meant to attempt:
1. to cover up this story about the stupid use of Sewol charitable funds
2. to reinforce the idea that the Korean government is corrupt, therefore, Bom's story could have been buried through payoff
3. to get Korea's attention off of SM's arse
4. to get Korea's attention off of JYP's arse
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 30 2014 16:29 GMT
#103963
Used to be a pretty big 2ne1 fan until the "Ugly" single and album release in ~2011 I think and haven't followed them much at all in the last few years (or kpop) in general but this is pretty sad but not surprising. I think it's safe to assume that celebrities do a lot of shady stuff which is swept under the rug by their agencies by paying off corrupt people in charge.

It's is indeed scary though that the government just puts big time stories out there and ruins people's careers to divert the shitstorm away from their mess. A lot of countries do it though, we just know about it from the koreans because we frequent places that talk about it.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2014 16:43 GMT
#103964
On June 30 2014 22:42 DwD wrote:
Shitstorm is about to happen to Park Bom
http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/81301-park-bom-doing-drugs/
http://www.allkpop.com/article/2014/06/breaking-2ne1s-park-bom-revealed-to-have-attempted-to-smuggle-drugs

Caught importing amphetamine 4 years ago but the DA never did shit and yes amphetamine is illegal in Korea. Apparently it's going into press tomorrow but lots of rumors around.

Also here is a really really really REALLY good list of top30 kpop songs 2008-2011 if someone started listening to Kpop after this era then you should def check all these songs out.
http://antikpopfangirl.blogspot.se/2014/06/kpopalypses-top-30-songs-of-k-pops_28.html

even disregarding rankings I disagree with half that list

On July 01 2014 01:03 SwARmZzz wrote:
Thought that YG would just skim through all the shitstorm that is recently happening in the kpop industry, especially with SM and JYP. Boy was I premature with that thinking.... If that doesn't sound like a payoff, I don't know what does...
If proven so, this is beyond scandalous really....
Can't tell who would be in bigger trouble, Bom for doing the action or YG for trying to bury the story...

Apparently in 2010, YG filed a complaint that they would sue all for spreading false statements about 2NE1 being involved with drug use/traffic near the time where E-Sens from Supreme team was caught....
In retrospect, I guess you can't say YG was lying, Netizens had to be SPECIFIC with their comments, P-A-R-K B-O-M or risk getting sued....

well amphetamines are arguably less damaging than weed or alcohol is, so idk what you are all on about with the scandalous thing
it's not like she was caught smoking rocks or doing heroin

a bunch of people in the entertainment business, eg models, artists, actors make liberal use of the substance as well, this is not that big of a deal
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
June 30 2014 16:46 GMT
#103965
Well it's illegal in Korea.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2014 16:52 GMT
#103966
I'm not saying it's not a big deal in korea
I'm saying it shouldn't be that big of a deal for us if you know what the substance actually is
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
June 30 2014 16:54 GMT
#103967
Well it's over now.
http://www.hellokpop.com/2014/07/01/2ne1-park-boms-drug-case-dropped-because-she-had-a-prescription/

:D
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
June 30 2014 17:03 GMT
#103968
Is it? Just because you got a medical marijuana license in USA doesnt mean you can bring that shit anywhere. Same with this stuff, she could've had a prescription for it in the USA, doesn't mean she can take it into Korea where it's illegal. If she thought it was legal why was it shipped to someone with another name but when they checked out the address it was her place... Well my popcorn is already out so Im gonna keep following this mess
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SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
June 30 2014 17:26 GMT
#103969
On July 01 2014 01:52 andyrau wrote:
I'm not saying it's not a big deal in korea
I'm saying it shouldn't be that big of a deal for us if you know what the substance actually is


The deal is not the fact that one is taking pain killer, cocaine, weed, etc...
The deal is that one has attempted to illegally transport an object through international borders that is the issue...
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2014 18:38 GMT
#103970
lmao so your issue with this 'scandal' is entirely based on a minor legality? not something like a moral/health based interest?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
June 30 2014 19:21 GMT
#103971
Smuggling is a bigger offense than consummation...
You can get a federal sentence for smuggling and ++ if distribution was involved. What is the sentence for consummation? Probation + group meeting in addiction anonymous..? Please...
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2014 19:47 GMT
#103972
there is no sentence for consummation if both parties are legally of age and willing
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
June 30 2014 20:28 GMT
#103973
I doubt it's illegal in korea with prescription. Even in the US if you have a prescription you can bring over an illegal drug. Though I'm sure hard drugs are blacklisted like cocaine and heroine.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
June 30 2014 20:36 GMT
#103974
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/10/319_111757.html
Unfortunately, Adderall, which is a popular prescription medication for ADHD in the United States, is not available in Korea, because one of its ingredient, dextroamphetamine, is prohibited here.
HOLY CHECK!
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 20:40:49
June 30 2014 20:36 GMT
#103975
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 21:22:39
June 30 2014 21:15 GMT
#103976
I mean yea, she had a legal foreign prescription, but with Korea's substance laws as draconian as they are, the pills were most likely detained/confiscated at point of entry.

point is, amphetamines are a classic upper & stimulant, and the amount that she 'smuggled' isn't even enough for intent to distribute.
picturing bom's alter ego as a speed dealer is mildly amusing tho

I'd guess her use has to do with coping with stress & fatigue in her schedules. not using it as a means for justification, but a lot of college students also abuse the substance.

I still do not understand why the majority in the west would find something like this to be appalling unless they're assuming speed to be equivalent to PCP or heroin or something.

also prescription for Ritalin/adderall is ridiculously easy to obtain in the US as ADHD is kind of hard to document for a doctor and frequently overdiagnosed, so I'm not surprised she managed to obtain a prescription.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
June 30 2014 22:08 GMT
#103977
Apparently someone is having fun on Wikipedia removing info boxes on Kpop pages which list the real names, nicknames and hangul translations of kpop artists. In the name of making the pages "better".
HOLY CHECK!
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
June 30 2014 22:09 GMT
#103978
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nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 22:53:52
June 30 2014 22:34 GMT
#103979
On July 01 2014 07:08 Lonyo wrote:
Apparently someone is having fun on Wikipedia removing info boxes on Kpop pages which list the real names, nicknames and hangul translations of kpop artists. In the name of making the pages "better".

Look here, we speak American in en.wikipedia.org! You want dem romanizations, television appearances, and bust size measurements you go on back to ko.wikipedia.org.
-
Seriously though, Korean wiki is awesome, unless you're nugu/your company's PR department is grossly inept.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 01 2014 00:22 GMT
#103980
Apparently Yang Hyun Suk posted his response in his blog, rough translation of main points:

Basic premise being 4 years ago Bom's parents brought the problem/case to Yang only. Nobody in 2ne1 knows, nobody in YG knows until the news came in today. He goes on about how Bom has been with 2ne1 for 9 years they've never been to a club, they don't drink that much and don't smoke. Then talks about how Bom grew up in the US and her dream was to be a soccer player, and in a soccer match her friend died and she witnessed it first hand and Bom had a hard time dealing with this. She went to therapy in a well known university hospital and continuosuly took the prescription medication they gave. From then on she gave up playing soccer and went to korea to become a singer where she failed many auditions and said she will only become a singer in YG. Her mom and grandmother sent the prescription drugs to Bom in Korea who was very busy with her schedule. Bom just knew that the drugs she took continuously in the US were unavailable in Korea and had no clue they were illegal drugs. Since 4 years ago she goes to a hospital in Korea.

Some comments on Nate.com include: "Diesregarding the bull shit sob story of audtion and soccer player dreams...What crazy doctor prescribes 80 pills to his patient, if you had a legitimate prescription why were the drugs sent to a relative to a different person's name"

"Family nor relatives can't receive the drugs for the patient when they're not even there, that doctor needs to be jailed"

So it looks like the doctor was probably some korean-american or friend of the family type of figure allowing those drugs for Bom/Bom's family.

Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20140701n06136
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