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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#89181
On January 02 2013 02:06 Sableyeah wrote:
I'm not too sure why there is so much hate going on again. I thought the song was pretty good, that being said, I also thought The Boys was alright. So I'm generally on the higher end of fandom.

The one thing I read a lot is the fact that this song has ALOT of elements, and it does, no doubt. But these parts aren't bad in their own way, if they could make separate songs out of all the elements, I could still see pretty decent songs. Also, the parts actually link quite well, as in they edited it rather well. Let's take Bohemian Rhapsody from Queen, that's the epiphany of MIXED song... Well, that worked out. Ok ok this is where people will stop reading because I'm comparing Queen with SNSD but please don't because I still have some things to cover.

I love that some sones are trying to play this off as a new, edgy/experimental song that's 3deep5you.
which is utterly stupid, because if snsd, and in extension any of the groups in the entire industry, had any inkling of artistic talent they wouldn't be in this business in the first place.
why can't they just admit this song is garbage and the retards at sme hired producers that fucked up?
And this song does have 'elements', that's obvious. regardless of how terrible each part is on its own, they're simply put together like Frankenstein or humpty dumpty.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 01 2013 20:58 GMT
#89182
Please don't fucking compare this atrocious IGAB to fucking Bohemian Rhapsody. Jesus christ, freddie mercury is probably turning in his grave.
liftlift > tsm
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 21:19:52
January 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#89183
So andy, what business would talented artistic people be in then? Because clearly in this game, you can be talentless and still rake in the dough. Pretty easy to do too once you have a fanbase. Actually, don't even need a fanbase. A pretty face will do and that isn't that expensive either. Where are these talented people going then? Why aren't they here raking in the dough too?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#89184
I'm assuming you're playing devil's advocate because otherwise you'd seem pretty anal retentive.
anyways, definitely not the idol industry. I guess you could make the argument that yonghwa is talented but that's a tangential discussion and proof is circumstantial at best.
talented people are in the music industry. yes, I consider them separate.

on a side note, it actually takes a degree in Korea to get a job in acting.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
January 01 2013 21:39 GMT
#89185
Anyone here heard of or know what/who BubbleFeetMusic is?
Tracking treasure down
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
January 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#89186
2NE1 already did it, and it worked a lot better.
HOLY CHECK!
dbg
Profile Joined June 2012
Colombia264 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 21:54:28
January 01 2013 21:51 GMT
#89187
^ i am the truest; name an idol group that i ain't influenced
every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around
Zhuu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States356 Posts
January 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#89188
This thread needs to be deleted.
♥ Lee Soon-kyu ♥ @xZhuu
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:13:41
January 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#89189
On January 02 2013 07:01 Zhuu wrote:
This thread needs to be deleted.

This is why I actually supported the "give SNSD their own thread like Naruto and Bleach" argument a couple months back. Because shit like this happens.
On January 01 2013 23:08 kakaman wrote:
SNSD producers biting off of Kanye's concept. 3 songs in 1? Been there done that.

+ Show Spoiler +

It's funny cause Ye actually did compose the instrumentals for his own part separately from the instrumentals for the rest of the song, so it was deliberate on his part. Probably not true for this song?

On January 02 2013 05:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Please don't fucking compare this atrocious IGAB to fucking Bohemian Rhapsody. Jesus christ, freddie mercury is probably turning in his grave.

Seriously. I don't even care if people like the song but Queen is fucking untouchable. And that's not just for SNSD, that's for kpop as a whole.

On January 02 2013 06:40 Lonyo wrote:
2NE1 already did it, and it worked a lot better.

I really hope this isn't a "trend", like retro concepts in '11, cause I really hate this/2ne1's style/concept or whatever.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#89190
I'm glad some people are starting to come to their senses. Thread's always entertaining when SNSD releases a new song.
God Bless
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
January 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#89191
On January 02 2013 05:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Please don't fucking compare this atrocious IGAB to fucking Bohemian Rhapsody. Jesus christ, freddie mercury is probably turning in his grave.


Could this be added to the rules >.>.

IGaB just sounds...too disjointed for me, like all the parts sound ok on their own, except maybe the gangsta rap at the start, but the rest gets ruined by awkward transitions.

And the live was good, I liked the ballads and covers, IGaB is still terrible song wise, but at least watching the lives will be better then watching the MV -.- .
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:36:05
January 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#89192
You know... if you cut out the intro and the random bit towards the mid/end where it goes downtempo, it's STILL a 3:40 song.

I wonder what we might see in music show performances... since they don't always play full versions of songs.

http://soundcloud.com/lonyo/01-i-got-a-boy-short
Cut out the intro, the bit at the start, and the bit at the mid/end, all only roughly.
Now it's just 2:30 of somewhat samey-ness.
HOLY CHECK!
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:37:52
January 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#89193
Some people just like to create hateful comments. This is Pop music, SNSD is on the 'good side' of things generally.

I agree I can't compare the songs with each other but you guys attack me for nothing. My point with Queen is what you guys skip entirely and just flame, this community... lols, almost 9yo. It's about the fact that Bohemian is totally fucking random, like sooooo random. And fyi random =/= bad incase some people jump to conclusions again. It's useless to defend something that's hated so hard. I just thought that I had a decent point so I posted but people stomp it right down anyways.


edit* am I the only one that finds this funny? Bunch of hypocrites
On January 02 2013 07:24 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 05:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Please don't fucking compare this atrocious IGAB to fucking Bohemian Rhapsody

IGaB just sounds...too disjointed for me

Bohemian Rhapsody is totally jointed :D

BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:40:33
January 01 2013 22:38 GMT
#89194
On January 02 2013 07:35 Sableyeah wrote:
Some people just like to create hateful comments. This is Pop music, SNSD is on the 'good side' of things generally.

I agree I can't compare the songs with each other but you guys attack me for nothing. My point with Queen is what you guys skip entirely and just flame, this community... lols, almost 9yo. It's about the fact that Bohemian is totally fucking random, like sooooo random. And fyi random =/= bad incase some people jump to conclusions again. It's useless to defend something that's hated so hard. I just thought that I had a decent point so I posted but people stomp it right down anyways.

Bohemian is random in a way that feels both deliberate and good/catchy.

Ok you can argue good/catchy for SNSD's new song but I don't feel it.

and it's still not even comparable.

As for your first line, the thing that always gets me is that, yes, troll "FUCK SNSD" comments are bad, but SONEs respond by saying that ANYONE who didn't like the song are haters/trolls and that's not true either...some people just don't like the song.

And I feel like I say this every release but guess what? People in this thread tell their honest opinions about every release. The bigger the release, the more people view it and post about it. SNSD is the biggest group out there. They get the most opinions. Big fanbases are going to have the most trolls. Ignore the trolls. But a lot of pro-SNSD comments in this thread seem to ignore that plenty of other releases get negative reviews from this thread too and they're not "trolling". They just don't fucking like the song. There's a difference.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:44:32
January 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#89195
Are you seriously trying to compare IGAB to a rock opera masterpiece and expect not to be ridiculed? Need new modnote on top 'never compare any kpop music to Queen, ever'
liftlift > tsm
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
January 01 2013 22:44 GMT
#89196
Was wondering if its just me but recently embedded youtube videos don't work for me. I can watch them on youtube though.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 01 2013 22:46 GMT
#89197
work fine for me
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#89198
just you
Grimsolution
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway73 Posts
January 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#89199
Oh... okey I'm gonna stop comparing apples to oranges, or apples to architecture or apples to gold, or apples to stories. I don't care at all what you compare something with, it's the reason that matters, and the reason was damn good, it is random just that SNSD did terrible, and Queen did great.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#89200
Cool, sooo Jing during Mystic White:

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