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Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
August 25 2012 18:43 GMT
#73541
On August 26 2012 02:40 ShmeeZZy wrote:
So will.i.am was at the 2ne1 concert and performed I'm the best with them and no one mentions this how???

+ Show Spoiler +


Looks like he just happened to be standing on the stage with them to be honest. Not exactly what most people would regard as interesting.
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Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 19:14:04
August 25 2012 19:11 GMT
#73542
On August 26 2012 03:32 HaXXspetten wrote:

Don't we want Kpop to become mainstream? I thought there was a reason why we keep trying to spread the love


It seems like it would be cool if it were mainstream but once it happens it would probably suck. I would rather have there be a few knowledgeable, passionate fans rather than idiots that only know a bit SNSD/care about the visuals or say things like this, "Gee gee gee gee baby baby! ...unless you'd rather listen to OPPA GANGNAM STYLUH!" Direct quote from Reddit... I was really in to playing Call of Duty 4 back in the day, the only people that played at my school were gamers really, everybody was really into the game. Then years later Modern Warfare 2 came out and everybody bought the game, everywhere I went I heard randoms saying the stupidest thing you could imagine about the game. You think it would be cool if more people would like the things you like, but once it actually happens, it feels bad man, cause they usually aren't into as much or know as much about it as you. Just my opinion, I'm sure I sound like a jerk/gamer elitist or pretentious but whatever.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 25 2012 19:19 GMT
#73543
On August 26 2012 04:11 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 03:32 HaXXspetten wrote:

Don't we want Kpop to become mainstream? I thought there was a reason why we keep trying to spread the love


It seems like it would be cool if it were mainstream but once it happens it would probably suck. I would rather have there be a few knowledgeable, passionate fans rather than idiots that only know a bit SNSD/care about the visuals or say things like this, "Gee gee gee gee baby baby! ...unless you'd rather listen to OPPA GANGNAM STYLUH!" Direct quote from Reddit... I was really in to playing Call of Duty 4 back in the day, the only people that played at my school were gamers really, everybody was really into the game. Then years later Modern Warfare 2 came out and everybody bought the game, everywhere I went I heard randoms saying the stupidest thing you could imagine about the game. You think it would be cool if more people would like the things you like, but once it actually happens, it feels bad man, cause they usually aren't into as much or know as much about it as you. Just my opinion, I'm sure I sound like a jerk/gamer elitist or pretentious but whatever.

That is a bit elitist. There's always going to be gateway stuff to any type of media, whether it's Naruto/Bleach for manga and anime, or Halo for FPS games, or Gangnam Style for Kpop. None of them are really bad, per se, but you'll get annoyed that they're all that people are talking about. I love Halo, but it pisses me off when everyone and their brother thinks they're a hardcore gamer for beating Reach on Legendary. Same thing here, you just have to realize that you're just geting a bit irrationally mad.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 25 2012 20:10 GMT
#73544
On August 26 2012 02:33 Taesica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 16:16 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Just got back from the 2NE1 concert. Quick thoughts are that they're very good live, their performances had great energy, and I was a little surprised to realize that I enjoyed all of the songs they performed. Not a super elaborate concert, but very fun and entertaining. Oh, and Bom's vocals were quite impressive and her playfulness on stage made her stand out.


Post pics/vids! Would love to see how that concert compared to the one in NJ.

Other than her You & I performance, I do remember Bom being really lackluster at NJ

Also, Isn't Minzy & + Show Spoiler +
CL
so hot in person? Alot of people refuse to believe me, but it is true


I used to like Dara the most and thought she was the hottest in 2ne1, I stil like her but rather categorize her as a cutiepie while CL is really hot. But whenever someoe would claim that people will will post duckface pics of her which makes it admittedably pointless to keep on argueing xD. Nobody rocks those Leather skintight pants like her though.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 25 2012 20:14 GMT
#73545
On August 26 2012 03:37 TunaBarrett wrote:
Can you guys stop using the term hipster for fuck sake. Its not something you should aspire to be, and you never will be by listening to kpop, known or not.

this
I hate that worddddddd
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Skysec
Profile Joined August 2010
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 20:20:19
August 25 2012 20:18 GMT
#73546
When things become popular and starts to attract a lot of fans, generally they start to cater to the average of the fan base, which means catering to the views of a large number of people who didn't find the original attractive enough to become fans. This should be obvious, if what kpop generally is isn't popular, then it has to change in order to become/stay popular. This means that when things become mainstream, they undergo a fundamental change in what defines them.

The hipster effect is mostly people who liked the original but hate the new changes. Its not elitist at all.
Its very easy to see that when things become popular you start catering to the baseline, it tends to trend towards the bottom.
Taesica
Profile Joined July 2012
United States173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 20:24:32
August 25 2012 20:22 GMT
#73547
On August 26 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 02:33 Taesica wrote:
On August 25 2012 16:16 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Just got back from the 2NE1 concert. Quick thoughts are that they're very good live, their performances had great energy, and I was a little surprised to realize that I enjoyed all of the songs they performed. Not a super elaborate concert, but very fun and entertaining. Oh, and Bom's vocals were quite impressive and her playfulness on stage made her stand out.


Post pics/vids! Would love to see how that concert compared to the one in NJ.

Other than her You & I performance, I do remember Bom being really lackluster at NJ

Also, Isn't Minzy & + Show Spoiler +
CL
so hot in person? Alot of people refuse to believe me, but it is true


I used to like Dara the most and thought she was the hottest in 2ne1, I stil like her but rather categorize her as a cutiepie while CL is really hot. But whenever someoe would claim that people will will post duckface pics of her which makes it admittedably pointless to keep on argueing xD. Nobody rocks those Leather skintight pants like her though.

Id say Dara is the prettiest and probably just plain out seems like she has one of the most awesome personality out of all of the other girls in kpop. minzy is the sexiest (but looks likr she has down syndrome when she smiles) and im sure she rocks the leather pants moreso than CL (see: Cant Nobody) CL is just hot if you block out her mexican-english accent and cross-eyes. I really like bom but she is just getting old and all that plastic surgery and botox isnt hiding it.
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 20:34:13
August 25 2012 20:33 GMT
#73548
Obligatory daily Gangnam Style! I actually like some of those covers she (I think?) makes. Piano doesn't really suit this particular song though.

Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
August 25 2012 20:37 GMT
#73549
On August 26 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 02:33 Taesica wrote:
On August 25 2012 16:16 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Just got back from the 2NE1 concert. Quick thoughts are that they're very good live, their performances had great energy, and I was a little surprised to realize that I enjoyed all of the songs they performed. Not a super elaborate concert, but very fun and entertaining. Oh, and Bom's vocals were quite impressive and her playfulness on stage made her stand out.


Post pics/vids! Would love to see how that concert compared to the one in NJ.

Other than her You & I performance, I do remember Bom being really lackluster at NJ

Also, Isn't Minzy & + Show Spoiler +
CL
so hot in person? Alot of people refuse to believe me, but it is true


I used to like Dara the most and thought she was the hottest in 2ne1, I stil like her but rather categorize her as a cutiepie while CL is really hot. But whenever someoe would claim that people will will post duckface pics of her which makes it admittedably pointless to keep on argueing xD. Nobody rocks those Leather skintight pants like her though.


Cutiepie you say?

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
August 25 2012 20:44 GMT
#73550
On August 26 2012 05:37 kakaman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]

I was starting to like her more, now I like her less, that was just kinda trashy.
And what Taesica says about CL is so, so true. That accent.

Bom lived in America, no? Why doesn't she ever speak in English interviews?
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
August 25 2012 20:45 GMT
#73551
That was unexpected.

It's probably because of the photoshop, but it doesn't look like she's aged one second in six years.
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 25 2012 20:47 GMT
#73552
Well for someone who doesn't like 2NE1 I found that interesting
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 25 2012 20:52 GMT
#73553
The only reason I wouldn't want kpop to become popular here is because, as the largest music market, everyone would do what they're doing in Japan- rereleasing all their crap in english and doing that shit here, which would make it not kpop.

Thank goodness that neither Gangnam Style nor Gee are anywhere near popular enough to create that kind of mainstream success, so all you guys arguing about it are being stupid.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 25 2012 21:05 GMT
#73554
On August 26 2012 05:52 DystopiaX wrote:
The only reason I wouldn't want kpop to become popular here is because, as the largest music market, everyone would do what they're doing in Japan- rereleasing all their crap in english and doing that shit here, which would make it not kpop

Thus making it a matter of perspective. If Kpop becoming mainstream means it's no longer Kpop... then do we end up with Kpop being mainstream or not?

Need someone with a philosophy major to clear this up.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 21:10:54
August 25 2012 21:09 GMT
#73555
On August 26 2012 05:37 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 05:10 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 26 2012 02:33 Taesica wrote:
On August 25 2012 16:16 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Just got back from the 2NE1 concert. Quick thoughts are that they're very good live, their performances had great energy, and I was a little surprised to realize that I enjoyed all of the songs they performed. Not a super elaborate concert, but very fun and entertaining. Oh, and Bom's vocals were quite impressive and her playfulness on stage made her stand out.


Post pics/vids! Would love to see how that concert compared to the one in NJ.

Other than her You & I performance, I do remember Bom being really lackluster at NJ

Also, Isn't Minzy & + Show Spoiler +
CL
so hot in person? Alot of people refuse to believe me, but it is true


I used to like Dara the most and thought she was the hottest in 2ne1, I stil like her but rather categorize her as a cutiepie while CL is really hot. But whenever someoe would claim that people will will post duckface pics of her which makes it admittedably pointless to keep on argueing xD. Nobody rocks those Leather skintight pants like her though.


Cutiepie you say?

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]


i feel free to ignore that^^, the dara in my heart will always be the the clumsy and shy one from 2ne1 tv who is super charming but can pull off abit of sexiness as well as seen in " I need a girl"
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
August 25 2012 21:18 GMT
#73556
It takes alot of stamina to promote in the US from Korea, I think one of the contributing reasons why more idol groups havnt tried at least tried entering the english market like how common it is for groups to just randomly make a japanese ver of a song is due to the logistcal nightmare of that dreaded 13 hour flight.

And kpop will always be kpop, even if its in English. It is Koreans doing pop music, not pop music that sounds Korean.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 25 2012 21:23 GMT
#73557
On August 26 2012 06:18 aloT wrote:
It takes alot of stamina to promote in the US from Korea, I think one of the contributing reasons why more idol groups havnt tried at least tried entering the english market like how common it is for groups to just randomly make a japanese ver of a song is due to the logistcal nightmare of that dreaded 13 hour flight.

And kpop will always be kpop, even if its in English. It is Koreans doing pop music, not pop music that sounds Korean.

You can say that but listen to some of KARA's Japanese releases (not the translations of their old songs) and that shit sounds jpoppy as fuck. Groups will by nature cater to their audience, meaning they'd release western sounding music.

All of this is moot to the Gangnam Style discussion anyway, since as I said there's no way in hell that it's going to cause the entire genre to get mainstream popularity.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
August 25 2012 21:31 GMT
#73558
Whats wrong with that photoshoot?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 25 2012 21:32 GMT
#73559
It's not very aegyo-ish
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
August 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#73560
On August 26 2012 06:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
It's not very aegyo-ish

Because kpop idols have to be pure and innocent right?
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