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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 08:46:07
August 20 2012 08:43 GMT
#72681
On August 20 2012 15:27 ASie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 15:01 Moonwrath wrote:
On August 20 2012 13:52 Nesserev wrote:
On August 20 2012 11:05 Moonwrath wrote:
For me, Sohee has almost no redeeming qualities as an idol, and that's why I don't care for her. I do not find her attractive at all. She is not cute. She can't sing. She can't rap. She is boring on television. Sorry, not my cup of tea.

your permanent negativity about almost every group but SNSD

I didn't bother reading that wall of crap you posted since you obviously don't read my posts.

On August 20 2012 14:25 ASie wrote:
I think you guys missed Nesserev's point in that it's not really about Sohee, but how anything Moonwrath comments on not related to SNSD seems negative. I have noticed that his posts have become more spiteful, although that may just be selective memory since it stands out more than regular praise.

Yeah like how I totally didn't fawn over BoA this comeback, or PSY or a whole slew of other artists. How about when I was one of the few that really liked 'Like This'? Learn to read please.

You made your point, but you didn't have to add in this little quib. I wasn't hating on you, I was just saying how I saw what Nesserev was posting.

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On August 20 2012 15:11 DystopiaX wrote:
I'd still have thought WG>T-ara before the bullying thing anyway, although it would've been close and I could see T-ara being more popular.

I had thought T-ara was ahead of WG, and even #2 ahead of 2NE1. T-ara was promoting like crazy in the past year, so their popularity shot upward.

no, t-ara was never ahead of 2ne1.

In terms of an aggregate rankings based off of public presence/endorsements, album sales, and general popularity, i'd probably put SNSD > 2ne1 > t-ara = kara > wg > sistar > the rest.

When you take into account the consistency of these various groups, t-ara and sistar shouldn't even rank that highly because their promotion cycles are at times meteoric and mediocre at others.

Also, girl group popularity fluctuate during each promotional cycle so to rank anything under the top two (SNSD and 2ne1) is blind conjecture.
yes, I do realize the ironing of my previous ranking, it's just an opinion.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2012 08:44 GMT
#72682
Not including s.e.s. fin k.l. or baby v.o.x, are you guys even trying?
I think it's pretty important to include time period when framing the question.

Also a lot of groups took hits due to their international stuff~
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#72683
On August 20 2012 17:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Not including s.e.s. fin k.l. or baby v.o.x, are you guys even trying?
I think it's pretty important to include time period when framing the question.

Also a lot of groups took hits due to their international stuff~

The question is who's most popular currently, trying to consider who's the most popular all time is fucking retarded because it's 2 different time periods with 2 different fanbases entirely.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2012 08:53 GMT
#72684
On August 20 2012 17:48 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 17:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Not including s.e.s. fin k.l. or baby v.o.x, are you guys even trying?
I think it's pretty important to include time period when framing the question.

Also a lot of groups took hits due to their international stuff~

The question is who's most popular currently, trying to consider who's the most popular all time is fucking retarded because it's 2 different time periods with 2 different fanbases entirely.

That was the joke >.>
liftlift > tsm
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
August 20 2012 08:54 GMT
#72685
On August 20 2012 17:43 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 15:27 ASie wrote:
On August 20 2012 15:01 Moonwrath wrote:
On August 20 2012 13:52 Nesserev wrote:
On August 20 2012 11:05 Moonwrath wrote:
For me, Sohee has almost no redeeming qualities as an idol, and that's why I don't care for her. I do not find her attractive at all. She is not cute. She can't sing. She can't rap. She is boring on television. Sorry, not my cup of tea.

your permanent negativity about almost every group but SNSD

I didn't bother reading that wall of crap you posted since you obviously don't read my posts.

On August 20 2012 14:25 ASie wrote:
I think you guys missed Nesserev's point in that it's not really about Sohee, but how anything Moonwrath comments on not related to SNSD seems negative. I have noticed that his posts have become more spiteful, although that may just be selective memory since it stands out more than regular praise.

Yeah like how I totally didn't fawn over BoA this comeback, or PSY or a whole slew of other artists. How about when I was one of the few that really liked 'Like This'? Learn to read please.

You made your point, but you didn't have to add in this little quib. I wasn't hating on you, I was just saying how I saw what Nesserev was posting.

On August 20 2012 15:11 DystopiaX wrote:
I'd still have thought WG>T-ara before the bullying thing anyway, although it would've been close and I could see T-ara being more popular.

I had thought T-ara was ahead of WG, and even #2 ahead of 2NE1. T-ara was promoting like crazy in the past year, so their popularity shot upward.


In terms of an aggregate rankings based off of public presence/endorsements, album sales, and general popularity, i'd probably put SNSD > 2ne1 > t-ara = kara > wg > sistar > the rest.


RANKINGS!!!

Are we only talking about groups here? IU's big, very big. Especially with the her being ambassador for the World Expo this year. There's a reason she's the "little sister of Korea".

+ Show Spoiler [My personal, uninteresting rankings up…] +
Crayon Pop: Soyul still #1, Ellin being pushed down to #3, replaced by Gum Mi.

Kara: Jiyoung upgraded to #3, beaten by HSY #2 and Nicole #1.

SNSD: Yuri still #1
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 20 2012 08:55 GMT
#72686
On August 20 2012 17:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 17:48 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 20 2012 17:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Not including s.e.s. fin k.l. or baby v.o.x, are you guys even trying?
I think it's pretty important to include time period when framing the question.

Also a lot of groups took hits due to their international stuff~

The question is who's most popular currently, trying to consider who's the most popular all time is fucking retarded because it's 2 different time periods with 2 different fanbases entirely.

That was the joke >.>

I fail to see the humor in asking a stupid question.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 20 2012 08:59 GMT
#72687
There's still 3 awards for the weekly shows, Show Champion, Mcountdown and Music Bank. I think a good way to rank groups along with album sales and endorsements is from respected polls like Gallup Korea and some mainstream publications over there. Going by things like this, IU and 2NE1 are definitely in the top 3, but after them it's basically a mix of guy groups like Super Junior, Big Bang, and 2PM, and Wonder Girls, T-ara, Sistar, and Kara.

Continuing on with Jung sisters' overpowered genes.

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화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2012 09:01 GMT
#72688
On August 20 2012 17:55 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 17:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 20 2012 17:48 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 20 2012 17:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Not including s.e.s. fin k.l. or baby v.o.x, are you guys even trying?
I think it's pretty important to include time period when framing the question.

Also a lot of groups took hits due to their international stuff~

The question is who's most popular currently, trying to consider who's the most popular all time is fucking retarded because it's 2 different time periods with 2 different fanbases entirely.

That was the joke >.>

I fail to see the humor in asking a stupid question.

It was suppose to be rhetorical.... I was making a point of saying that time periods are important, and that too many people making excuses for groups like WG, to be included in the top 5.
liftlift > tsm
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 20 2012 09:03 GMT
#72689
rankings was a flawed way of putting it; I meant it as a perspective of how foreigners [should] view the scene atm
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
August 20 2012 09:16 GMT
#72690
Official version and higher quality of the group teaser.



Notice that the background music sounds different from the individual teasers. Similar but different. An interesting new sound we have here. I'm sure the final product will be amazing. Sweetune + KARA is an imba combo.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 09:39:51
August 20 2012 09:18 GMT
#72691
WG is in the top 5 girl groups because most people know who WG is compared to some random like f(x) or After School in the general population.

edit: Kara teaser is definitely Korea Kara-sounding. which means I'll probably like it! Looking forward to seeing them on music shows again.

Left4Cookies I love how there are random Yuri pictures that are unrelated to SM Town in there lol. I was like, yeah these pics are nice, love their outfits for the concert, wait wth that pic is from their solo concert! haha
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 09:37:45
August 20 2012 09:32 GMT
#72692
Pandora teaser, wut! I think I liked the teaser sound better, but there's only two days left so I'll keep it at that.

A tiny SMTOWN Seoul update:
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+ Show Spoiler [Who's #1?] +

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+ Show Spoiler [Nah..] +
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Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
August 20 2012 10:00 GMT
#72693
Cookies, please provide us with an epic Yuri birthday post when the day comes, those were some mighty fine pics, perfect for the Yuri binge I've been on lately. What exactly is the context of that gross girl with Hyoyeon? Make the joke if you must...
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 10:30:39
August 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#72694
At the beginning of SM Town, since there was a huge international tour package for the concert, they had representative fans from all the countries in attendance walk with sm artists carrying their country's flag. It's a part of the whole "SM Music Nation" thing they got going on. And then BoA and Kangta opened the show with an announcement and they all sang that Dear My Family song to mark the start of the concert. At the end of the concert, many of these fans were able to go on stage with all the artists, and some even took selcas with the artists and got autographs and got to meet them.

example: Sooyoung asked this fan who her favorite was and she said Yunho, so Sooyoung introduced her to him. Pretty cool for that fan. And I just noticed, it's the same fan from the above picture!

화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 20 2012 10:36 GMT
#72695
Hey guys, im sorry if this is the wrong place to post or what not, as im super drunk. But im looking for this song, I know was by Big Bang, in like a live show as a collaboration with some girls.... it came out maybe a year ago? I'm sorry I can't offer more of a description... anybody have any ideas? I would greatly appreciated it.
Jieun <3
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 20 2012 10:37 GMT
#72696
On August 20 2012 19:36 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Hey guys, im sorry if this is the wrong place to post or what not, as im super drunk. But im looking for this song, I know was by Big Bang, in like a live show as a collaboration with some girls.... it came out maybe a year ago? I'm sorry I can't offer more of a description... anybody have any ideas? I would greatly appreciated it.

You're probably talking about Lollipop. It's made by Big Bang and 2NE1.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
August 20 2012 10:39 GMT
#72697
Wow, I was finding it on youtube and already sniped.

Whatever, here:
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 20 2012 10:40 GMT
#72698
On August 20 2012 19:37 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:36 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Hey guys, im sorry if this is the wrong place to post or what not, as im super drunk. But im looking for this song, I know was by Big Bang, in like a live show as a collaboration with some girls.... it came out maybe a year ago? I'm sorry I can't offer more of a description... anybody have any ideas? I would greatly appreciated it.

You're probably talking about Lollipop. It's made by Big Bang and 2NE1.


ugh this isn't it... I'm not sure if it was 2ne1 or not, but I know it was big bang... and they were rapping live on stage and shit... damnit I'm an idiot, I used to have it saved on my phone, but I had to wipe it.
Jieun <3
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
August 20 2012 10:42 GMT
#72699
When drunk it's the best time to post in here!


On August 20 2012 19:00 Jarzai wrote:
Cookies, please provide us with an epic Yuri birthday post when the day comes, those were some mighty fine pics, perfect for the Yuri binge I've been on lately. What exactly is the context of that gross girl with Hyoyeon? Make the joke if you must...


Will do. There's still a while to go though ..
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 20 2012 10:44 GMT
#72700
On August 20 2012 19:40 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:37 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:36 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Hey guys, im sorry if this is the wrong place to post or what not, as im super drunk. But im looking for this song, I know was by Big Bang, in like a live show as a collaboration with some girls.... it came out maybe a year ago? I'm sorry I can't offer more of a description... anybody have any ideas? I would greatly appreciated it.

You're probably talking about Lollipop. It's made by Big Bang and 2NE1.


ugh this isn't it... I'm not sure if it was 2ne1 or not, but I know it was big bang... and they were rapping live on stage and shit... damnit I'm an idiot, I used to have it saved on my phone, but I had to wipe it.

It could be the live collaboration they did with Lee Hyori... but it's hard to tell, if it's not Lollipop, it's probably something live exclusive since, at least from what I know, Big Bang has made no other song together with a girl group.
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