EPTMore than that I think we would get into biases, but maybe top 4 or 5 are pretty defined?
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Aerisky
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More than that I think we would get into biases, but maybe top 4 or 5 are pretty defined? | ||
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Moonwrath
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On August 20 2012 13:52 Nesserev wrote: your permanent negativity about almost every group but SNSD I didn't bother reading that wall of crap you posted since you obviously don't read my posts. On August 20 2012 14:25 ASie wrote: I think you guys missed Nesserev's point in that it's not really about Sohee, but how anything Moonwrath comments on not related to SNSD seems negative. I have noticed that his posts have become more spiteful, although that may just be selective memory since it stands out more than regular praise. Yeah like how I totally didn't fawn over BoA this comeback, or PSY or a whole slew of other artists. How about when I was one of the few that really liked 'Like This'? Learn to read please. | ||
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Craton
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DystopiaX
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On August 20 2012 15:00 Aerisky wrote: Actually, what would be the top 5ish groups in Korea, out of curiosity? More than that I think we would get into biases, but maybe top 4 or 5 are pretty defined? SNSD 2ne1 KARA WG IMO If you count IU she might sneak in there. | ||
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Craton
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Skysec
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DystopiaX
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On August 20 2012 15:05 Craton wrote: T-ara should be higher than WG, probably behind 2NE1. In Japan it should be Kara #1 and T-ara #3. AS might be #4; I don't follow Japanese crap much. Maybe before the bullying thing. WG is still pretty big though. I actually don't know how Japan responded to the bullying thing if at all. I didn't get the impression that AS was successful in Japan, but I could be wrong. | ||
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Craton
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Don't get so easily tinted by netizens. | ||
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DystopiaX
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Katsuge
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Craton
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Moonwrath
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Aerisky
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Thanks :D | ||
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wwiv
Singapore182 Posts
On August 20 2012 13:52 Nesserev wrote: First of all, non-average people can't be idols ? There's something really flawed with your logic. Being an idol only happens to people with above-average traits like looks, voice, etc. If you look at the state of the current kpop business, average is not the word you'll find there. And if you think that they used to be normal, average people that just really work hard, you're wrong. + Show Spoiler + (and snsd is one of the groups that really fits this narrative, sones just love to talk about how hard the girls work) What have they been working on then? Can't you see the hypocrisy of your post, stating that the Wonder Girls apparently have an 'unattractive image that implies massive popularity without excessive individual effort and instead, dependence on JYP', while WG's latest promotions overall were actually decent + Show Spoiler + (2 Different Tears was kinda horrible, but the album overall made up for it, Be My Baby was good, album was great, DJ was mine ... awkward dubstep, Like This was meh, but the other song they promoted during those promotions was pretty good) Hoot, Mr.Taxi, THE BOYS (ugh), Paparazzi SNSD has been able to maintain a lot of their popularity due to their 'older' work, and I don't think that WG's situation differs all too much from theirs, but SNSD's recent work shouldn't deserve that much attention at all. I think that, if the WG's really had depended solely on JYP's name with SNSD's newer songs, they would've disbanded a few months ago, also because they were nowhere to be found for almost 2 years because fknoob JYP send them to the USA. gonna ignore the first and second para of emotional rant because you completely miss the point, i am pointing out that the image of an individual idol working hard is appealing to the typical fan. whether this image is real or marketed or forced upon is another thing but among the current popular idol groups the best example i could think of that would support my claim is SNSD what does this have to do with sohee? she has been derpy since day 0 until now and WG as individual members for a group as popular as theirs, have hardly any regular appearances on korean variety shows / talk shows or radio shows etc, if you didnt find her cute in the first place, its probably the end because the only thing that "changes" about her on television is her promotional concept. but look back on how often people in this thread remark "oh i hated <snsd / t-ara / kara member> but after watching <insert show> shes not too bad anymore" and god damm the rest of your post is just desperate WG > SNSD | ||
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Katsuge
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3rd? uhh kara? t-ara? | ||
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DystopiaX
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On August 20 2012 15:25 Katsuge wrote: pretty sure sistar holds the 2nd spot... If you only look at Loving U promotions maybe, but IMO you have to show consistency in popularity throughout releases as well as general pervasiveness in other forms of media, and they don't really do that. | ||
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ASie
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On August 20 2012 15:01 Moonwrath wrote: I didn't bother reading that wall of crap you posted since you obviously don't read my posts. Yeah like how I totally didn't fawn over BoA this comeback, or PSY or a whole slew of other artists. How about when I was one of the few that really liked 'Like This'? Learn to read please. You made your point, but you didn't have to add in this little quib. I wasn't hating on you, I was just saying how I saw what Nesserev was posting. On August 20 2012 15:11 DystopiaX wrote: I'd still have thought WG>T-ara before the bullying thing anyway, although it would've been close and I could see T-ara being more popular. I had thought T-ara was ahead of WG, and even #2 ahead of 2NE1. T-ara was promoting like crazy in the past year, so their popularity shot upward. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
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On August 20 2012 09:36 ASie wrote: OPPA DDAKNAE STYLE! ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪ Damn, Taeyeon is so cute. On August 20 2012 09:51 krndandaman wrote: For some reason I linked these two posts together along with the resulting conversation. I was preparing to write some kind of massive Taeyeon fanpost because it took me like a page to realize it was referring to Sohee. Especially because Fawkes posted a rebuttal right after ._.I personally don't understand what makes her attractive/cute to people;; On August 20 2012 15:25 Katsuge wrote: I'd probably leave the KMD the day that happens.pretty sure sistar holds the 2nd spot... 3rd? uhh kara? t-ara? | ||
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ASie
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On August 20 2012 15:28 Xenocide_Knight wrote: For some reason I linked these two posts together along with the resulting conversation. I was preparing to write some kind of massive Taeyeon fanpost because it took me like a page to realize it was referring to Sohee. Especially because Fawkes posted a rebuttal right after ._. I'd probably leave the KMD the day that happens. Now make that fanpost into a blog post. It'd be intriguing seeing you argue your point of her cuteness... Also, Sistar is probably receiving that T-ara phenomenon where they keep promoting and their popularity is just shooting up. It's because they are staying relevant in the K-Pop world unlike other groups who often go on year long hiatus. | ||
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wei2coolman
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On August 20 2012 15:26 DystopiaX wrote: If you only look at Loving U promotions maybe, but IMO you have to show consistency in popularity throughout releases as well as general pervasiveness in other forms of media, and they don't really do that. ^this. it's also because they don't have a massive company backing them~ so they don't have as much opportunities . Also that vintage man video, DAT V-neck, and stache. | ||
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