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Wrote a few lines of java code. It would also be interesting how many pics/videos someone posted. I guess I am going to write a little stats tool for KMD. I have some spare time the next few weeks. 
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I guess I was in the top 200.. searched my name and I was #198 I guess I really do lurk way more than I post here.
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I'm no. 58 in the world's #1 global Korean Music Discussion Thread. I will brag about this to my kpop friends.
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LOL i am number 6.
would have been 1 if i didnt stop visiting the thread for a while :p
missed the good old times when morningmusume/t.o.p/kentor/roffles were still active.
thrashtalk everywhere
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On July 30 2012 23:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities. I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway. We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark. I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some. I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the "Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend." The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases. I mean, stuff like this Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote:
Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. is borderline, yea. Even I admit that I could possibly see Taeyeon being a bitch to some other people/members. But that's to be expected really, we've all been hateful at one point or another.
Can you really imagine Soyeon, after all her struggles just being outright mean to another member? I don't think this is even about bias because there are other in kpop I could make the same claim for. I just don't see certain people having that type of personality at all. And there are other ways to see idols than scripted tv shows. Also I think even idols can't fake their personality too much since they are on shows so often it would eventually shine through.
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On July 31 2012 00:07 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 23:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities. I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway. We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark. I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some. I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the "Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend." The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases. I mean, stuff like this On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote:
Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. is borderline, yea. Even I admit that I could possibly see Taeyeon being a bitch to some other people/members. But that's to be expected really, we've all been hateful at one point or another. Can you really imagine Soyeon, after all her struggles just being outright mean to another member? I don't think this is even about bias because there are other in kpop I could make the same claim for. I just don't see certain people having that type of personality at all. And there are other ways to see idols than scripted tv shows. Also I think even idols can't fake their personality too much since they are on shows so often it would eventually shine through.
I don't follow Soyeon enough to know myself, but I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment. There's plenty of times where you can tell someone is being, maybe not truly genuine, but at least acting like themselves rather than acting like the idol.
Of course, judging that is really up to each individual, and I'm sure bias makes us see it in some places where it's not happening, but that's fandom.
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On July 31 2012 00:07 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 23:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities. I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway. We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark. I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some. I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the "Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend." The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases. I mean, stuff like this On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote:
Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. is borderline, yea. Even I admit that I could possibly see Taeyeon being a bitch to some other people/members. But that's to be expected really, we've all been hateful at one point or another. Can you really imagine Soyeon, after all her struggles just being outright mean to another member? I don't think this is even about bias because there are other in kpop I could make the same claim for. I just don't see certain people having that type of personality at all. And there are other ways to see idols than scripted tv shows. Also I think even idols can't fake their personality too much since they are on shows so often it would eventually shine through.
That's what I thought initially. But I remember my days when I lived in SK. Korean girls can take the term "personal" to another level, so I can see this happening. I hate giving my opinion because these silly dramas are pretty intriguing to just read about lol. Maybe that was a bit too honest, but I'd rather be a bystander than take sides. Their innocence is so damn deceiving..
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Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL:
PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!
Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed?
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On July 31 2012 00:07 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 23:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities. I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway. We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark. I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some. I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the "Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend." The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases. I mean, stuff like this On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote:
Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. is borderline, yea. Even I admit that I could possibly see Taeyeon being a bitch to some other people/members. But that's to be expected really, we've all been hateful at one point or another. Can you really imagine Soyeon, after all her struggles just being outright mean to another member? I don't think this is even about bias because there are other in kpop I could make the same claim for. I just don't see certain people having that type of personality at all. And there are other ways to see idols than scripted tv shows. Also I think even idols can't fake their personality too much since they are on shows so often it would eventually shine through.
Yea that's what I'm saying! Like after that many episodes of Taeyeon hosting her radio show, which was basically just her rambling on by herself, something genuine has got to shine through. Stuff like her disappointment/anger at MBC, that kind of stuff can't possibly be scripted. Your post was a bit extreme though. ^^
I could see Soyeon being outright mean because she's constantly overworked, probably super stressed out, didn't want a new member in T-ara, and like you said, after all her struggles, if she felt like someone was dragging down the group or hurting her chances, she could be very bitter.
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On July 31 2012 00:20 YowDog2 wrote:Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL: PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed?
This has already been posted.
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On July 31 2012 00:20 YowDog2 wrote:Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL: PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed?
Flavour group of the day: T-ara.
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I was rudely awoken to the fact that I was a bully during school after meeting one of my victims while high at a rave one night. We talked it through, I apologised and we are friends now, but it made me realise how fucked up it is that I made this kids, and apparently a large number of others, lives a misery.
It's not acceptable, and if I see it occurring now I will immediately take the victims side, whatever the consequences.
If Soyeon was not actually taking part, she is at least at fault for not stepping in and sticking up for her younger group member. I am disappointed in all of them. They aren't children.
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On July 31 2012 00:22 Purpl3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 00:20 YowDog2 wrote:Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL: PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed? This has already been posted.
Haxx posted the TL thread, I didn't see the Reddit one linked. If so, I missed it in the 20 pages of dramadramadrama.
It's cool to see them taking advantage of Reddit. Say what you will about the community (I have a few choice words myself), but it's a great news aggregation place and a good way to get information and feedback. We should get idols using it.
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On July 31 2012 00:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 00:22 Purpl3 wrote:On July 31 2012 00:20 YowDog2 wrote:Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL: PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed? This has already been posted. Haxx posted the TL thread, I didn't see the Reddit one linked. If so, I missed it in the 20 pages of dramadramadrama. It's cool to see them taking advantage of Reddit. Say what you will about the community (I have a few choice words myself), but it's a great news aggregation place and a good way to get information and feedback. We should get idols using it.
Take a guess where the TL thread links to. And I'd actually tune into GSL for once if this did happen.
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On July 31 2012 00:31 Purpl3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 00:28 Requizen wrote:On July 31 2012 00:22 Purpl3 wrote:On July 31 2012 00:20 YowDog2 wrote:Sooo just found out that PSY MIGHT PERFORM AT THE GSL FINAL: PSY!!! UPVOTE THIS!!!Then saw that Rainbow, IU, and A Pink al have perfomed at GSL Finals, was there any other groups that performed? This has already been posted. Haxx posted the TL thread, I didn't see the Reddit one linked. If so, I missed it in the 20 pages of dramadramadrama. It's cool to see them taking advantage of Reddit. Say what you will about the community (I have a few choice words myself), but it's a great news aggregation place and a good way to get information and feedback. We should get idols using it. Take a guess where the TL thread links to. And I'd actually tune into GSL for once if this did happen.
Ah, I didn't visit the thread. Upvoted the post on Reddit, didn't feel that going to the one on TL was necessary. Outrage vilified, then.
Work nights too OP vs GSL T.T
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So how many of you will actually stop listening/following T-ara songs? I mean for me, personal life is a separate thing from what they produce. When Chris Brown had that whole Rihanna beating fiasco, I would still listen to his music (or try to as it gradually spiraled downward). Robert Downey Jr. was a hardcore drug addict and is probably a bitch, but his acting is top notch and it keeps him in high regards. Tons of basketball players have scandals/problems (i.e. Kobe's "rape"). But then again, this may be just that I'm listing males and we have double standards for females.
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t-ara still music listen~
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My interests in T-ara haven't changed.
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On July 31 2012 00:37 ASie wrote:
So how many of you will actually stop listening/following T-ara songs? I mean for me, personal life is a separate thing from what they produce. When Chris Brown had that whole Rihanna beating fiasco, I would still listen to his music (or try to as it gradually spiraled downward). Robert Downey Jr. was a hardcore drug addict and is probably a bitch, but his acting is top notch and it keeps him in high regards. Tons of basketball players have scandals/problems (i.e. Kobe's "rape"). But then again, this may be just that I'm listing males and we have double standards for females.
t-ara music best music. jiyeon face still s class
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